Jay Leno's ZR1 drive

[Pariah]

Of course he bought the very first ZR1 in production

No, he didn't. Some guy bid $1 million for that car almost a year ago at an auction. The same guy also paid $1 million for the 3rd corvette ever made, which was the first one to be sold to the public, at the same auction.

 

[Jeff7181]

Supercharged 376... when's the supercharged 427 coming?

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Cheesehead
The LS series V8 (which is actually only 6.2 liters - the 7 liter version is only found in the Z06) is not a very modern engine design

you sir, have just lost whatever bits of credibility you once had.

the LS series V8's are some of the smallest, lightest, most efficiently designed V8 engines ever built.

The LS7 is something like 100 pounds lighter than the V10 in the BMW M5, while producing equal horsepower and almost 100 ft-lb MORE torque.

OHC is great for revs, but GM continually shows that OHV is far from an "antiquated" and "inefficient" technology.

If you read enough in Garage you see he has none. He is just an idiot that thinks he knows something about cars since he has read car mags and been to a jiffy lube.

 

[ehhhh]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Cheesehead
The LS series V8 (which is actually only 6.2 liters - the 7 liter version is only found in the Z06) is not a very modern engine design

you sir, have just lost whatever bits of credibility you once had.

the LS series V8's are some of the smallest, lightest, most efficiently designed V8 engines ever built.

The LS7 is something like 100 pounds lighter than the V10 in the BMW M5, while producing equal horsepower and almost 100 ft-lb MORE torque.

OHC is great for revs, but GM continually shows that OHV is far from an "antiquated" and "inefficient" technology.

Big friggen whoopty doo. So what if the big 7L v8 makes 100ftlbs more tq than a 5L v10?. The bottom line is LSx uses old tech. Deny it all you want. The OHV IS inefficent. It needs to die like the rest of GM.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: ehhhh

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Cheesehead
The LS series V8 (which is actually only 6.2 liters - the 7 liter version is only found in the Z06) is not a very modern engine design

you sir, have just lost whatever bits of credibility you once had.

the LS series V8's are some of the smallest, lightest, most efficiently designed V8 engines ever built.

The LS7 is something like 100 pounds lighter than the V10 in the BMW M5, while producing equal horsepower and almost 100 ft-lb MORE torque.

OHC is great for revs, but GM continually shows that OHV is far from an "antiquated" and "inefficient" technology.

Big friggen whoopty doo. So what if the big 7L v8 makes 100ftlbs more tq than a 5L v10?. The bottom line is LSx uses old tech. Deny it all you want. The OHV IS inefficent. It needs to die like the rest of GM.

so what exactly is inefficient about producing more torque in a lighter and physically smaller package? I'd REALLY like to know. and it wins on fuel efficiency too. you can thank those extra 100 ft-lbs f torque.

 

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: ehhhh

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Cheesehead
The LS series V8 (which is actually only 6.2 liters - the 7 liter version is only found in the Z06) is not a very modern engine design

you sir, have just lost whatever bits of credibility you once had.

the LS series V8's are some of the smallest, lightest, most efficiently designed V8 engines ever built.

The LS7 is something like 100 pounds lighter than the V10 in the BMW M5, while producing equal horsepower and almost 100 ft-lb MORE torque.

OHC is great for revs, but GM continually shows that OHV is far from an "antiquated" and "inefficient" technology.

Big friggen whoopty doo. So what if the big 7L v8 makes 100ftlbs more tq than a 5L v10?. The bottom line is LSx uses old tech. Deny it all you want. The OHV IS inefficent. It needs to die like the rest of GM.

I'm going to have to deny all of what you just said.

 

[RGUN]

Originally posted by: ehhhh

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Cheesehead
The LS series V8 (which is actually only 6.2 liters - the 7 liter version is only found in the Z06) is not a very modern engine design

you sir, have just lost whatever bits of credibility you once had.

the LS series V8's are some of the smallest, lightest, most efficiently designed V8 engines ever built.

The LS7 is something like 100 pounds lighter than the V10 in the BMW M5, while producing equal horsepower and almost 100 ft-lb MORE torque.

OHC is great for revs, but GM continually shows that OHV is far from an "antiquated" and "inefficient" technology.

Big friggen whoopty doo. So what if the big 7L v8 makes 100ftlbs more tq than a 5L v10?. The bottom line is LSx uses old tech. Deny it all you want. The OHV IS inefficent. It needs to die like the rest of GM.

Like the other people here who seem to have some form of mechanical aptitude I would also like to know why it is inefficient -- because right now all you seem to be doing is following the typical american engine bashers canned script.

Please, tell me why I should spend more money to produce an engine that is much heavier, larger, and makes less power. I apologize for being ignorant when it comes to why the pushrod engine is inefficient -- so lets hear why.

 

[Vic]

:heart:


And there is nothing inherently inefficient or particularly antiquated about OHV compared to OHC. It's not like OHC is some amazing modern technology, unless you swallowed some marketing koolaid. In the meantime, 638 hp from such a compact, lightweight package pretty much defines efficient and modern.

 

[angry hampster]

Originally posted by: ehhhh


Big friggen whoopty doo. So what if the big 7L v8 makes 100ftlbs more tq than a 5L v10?. The bottom line is LSx uses old tech. Deny it all you want. The OHV IS inefficent. It needs to die like the rest of GM.

ehhhh

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Supercharged 376... when's the supercharged 427 coming?

you won't see a factory one. IIRC, chevy stated that they chose the 6.2 over the 7.0 because of the cylinder walls. i thought they stated that the 6.2 could easily withstand the added pressure of the supercharger while the 7L might not. could have just been smoke.

ligenfelter (sp?) has a turbo for the 427.

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: ehhhh
Big friggen whoopty doo. So what if the big 7L v8 makes 100ftlbs more tq than a 5L v10?. The bottom line is LSx uses old tech. Deny it all you want. The OHV IS inefficent. It needs to die like the rest of GM.

I think you misunderstand good engineering. It's not about using all the most advanced technology, it's about getting the best performance with the least drawbacks. If you can get more power out of a lighter, physically smaller, cheaper, more durable engine that engine is superior. Hands down. I don't care if it's not using the latest and greatest components made of unobtanium. In the engineering world it's all about the numbers and in this case GM wins on every single front.

As an engineer (though I'm in Aerospace engines, not automotive) there's a great deal of respect for what we consider an elegant solution. The simplest solution to get you the performance you need is invariably the best one.

 

[rh71]

Leno doesn't know jack - bmw has hud too. Stick to talking about the engine and the grunt Jay.

 

[Aharami]

man that car looks sexy on the road!!

 

[DomS]

fuck...

 

[AmigaMan]

Man I would love to get my hands on one of those cars. ahhh only 11 more years till my mid-life crisis. "wifey it's either you or I get my vette...you choose"

 

[everman]

The Corvette has always been one of the best value for the buck sports cars.
Easy maintenance and repair is a huge plus, not to mention a giant selection of after-market parts.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Vic
:heart:


And there is nothing inherently inefficient or particularly antiquated about OHV compared to OHC. It's not like OHC is some amazing modern technology, unless you swallowed some marketing koolaid. In the meantime, 638 hp from such a compact, lightweight package pretty much defines efficient and modern.

638 hp to move 2 people is not efficient

 

[EvilHorace]

I'd love to have one of those. Truely one of the coolest "affordable" (~100K) cars ever. That being THE first production car, can you imagine what that'll be worth in future years to another collector if Jay ever sells it?

 

[TehMac]

I personally would rather get a Dodge Viper, very cool car, no stigma about having a small cock or an attention whore, bang for the buck, tremendous performance, but low handling. Well whatever, I want one.