jeans.

[Drakkon]

had a pair of express and they went to crap in about 2 months. had a pair of guess jeans and went to crap in 4.
A good pair of levis (569 - button fly or regular boot cut of course) or wranglers lasts at least a year...if not longer.
So maybe those "designer" metrosexual jeans look nice or whatever, but they dont last for ******, which to me is the best qualifier for a good pair of jeans.

btw i work with horses so hopefully that explains for the ruining of jeans so fast

 

[PhoenixOrion]

majority of my jeans come from old navy - boot cut.

i do have a pair of express and one pair of versace jeans....was curious at the store and fell in love with how they fit.

 

[Horus]

Tommy Hilfiger "New Freedom"...only jeans that fit me so well. And my God, do they fit my fat-ass well!

 

[mb]

Banana, followed by Levi

 

[wicktron]

Originally posted by: CasioTech

Originally posted by: wicktron
i am a certified denim junkie and consider myself knowledgeable in everything related to jeans.

i personally only wear selvedge/selvage denim.
selvedge denim is described as:

Selvage and selvedge mean exactly the same thing - different companies spell it differently and there apparently is no "right" way to spell it. It comes from the phrase "self-edge" which refers to the edge being finished by the loom instead of sewn together after weaving. [thanks Geowu]. Selvage is the term commonly used to refer to denim that has been produced on a shuttle loom. Since the amount of fabric produced from a shuttle loom is significantly narrower than a projectile (wide) loom, the cotton consumption is higher and the time required is greater. In selvage jeans, you will see the actual edge of the fabric where the weaving stops and is finished by the loom, as opposed to denim woven on a projectile loom, where the fabric has been cut off at the ends. The "redline" selvage is Levi's signature and was used in all their jeans up to 1982, before Cone Mills nixed them for the more modern projectile looms, which are faster and much more efficient.

selvedge denim is typically of higher quality, with better, more durable fabric. also, dyes tend to respond better to selvedge denim, because of the tighter weaving of the cotton.

also, selvedge denim, when cuffed up, looks fantastic with the straight lined stitching.

another kind of denim that i wear is raw denim. this means that the dyes used on the jeans are left unwashed, undistressed, and free to bleed. jeans of this nature bleed all over any and every light colored surface, but in the end (months of unwashed usage), create beautifully customized wear on your pair of jeans.

combine raw with selvedge -- and you have, imo, the perfect pair of jeans.

some brands that have raw denim (you will not recognize a lot of these brands as they are only found in expensive boutiques):

nudie -- my personal favorite. nudie comminity here with plenty of before/after pictures of raw denim
apc -- the common denominator of raw denim (they have a shop in soho, nyc)
levis lvc -- lvc is 'levis vintage clothing' and by vintage, they mean that, as described above, the denim is made on vintage machines
evisu -- japanese brand, becoming more common in the usa. only the 'made in japan' evisu's are worth getting
prps, blue blood, supreme, red monkey, greige, etc... (there are tons of other brands)

notice the lack of diesel/seven. these jeans, by most part, are overpriced for the quality of denim you get. id much rather spend $200 on a pair of real quality nudies than an overhyped pair of diesels/sevens.

run of the mill gap/old navy/anchor blue/af/ae/hollister jeans are just that -- run of the mill. i dont spend my money on these. its like getting a celeron when you can get a core2duo instead.

what is raw denim?

check out those brands i mentioned, particularly nudie and the mynudies link i provided.

raw denim is when the indigo is left raw or unwashed on the denim. typically, when jeans are produced, they are dyed then sent to washers and abrasions to get the pre-worn look that is commonly seen.

with raw denim, you wear the denim and create the abrasions (rear knee honeycombs, front seat whiskars, front knee fading, etc...) yourself with natural wear... you wear the raw denim jeans for long periods of time without wash to create a jean that is, without a doubt, your own.

here is another link to what denim looks like raw and after wear&wash: the evolution of jeans

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: Drakkon
had a pair of express and they went to crap in about 2 months. had a pair of guess jeans and went to crap in 4.
A good pair of levis (569 - button fly or regular boot cut of course) or wranglers lasts at least a year...if not longer.
So maybe those "designer" metrosexual jeans look nice or whatever, but they dont last for ******, which to me is the best qualifier for a good pair of jeans.

btw i work with horses so hopefully that explains for the ruining of jeans so fast

yeah, I sit at a desk all day. So hah.

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: wicktron

Originally posted by: CasioTech

Originally posted by: wicktron
i am a certified denim junkie and consider myself knowledgeable in everything related to jeans.

i personally only wear selvedge/selvage denim.
selvedge denim is described as:

Selvage and selvedge mean exactly the same thing - different companies spell it differently and there apparently is no "right" way to spell it. It comes from the phrase "self-edge" which refers to the edge being finished by the loom instead of sewn together after weaving. [thanks Geowu]. Selvage is the term commonly used to refer to denim that has been produced on a shuttle loom. Since the amount of fabric produced from a shuttle loom is significantly narrower than a projectile (wide) loom, the cotton consumption is higher and the time required is greater. In selvage jeans, you will see the actual edge of the fabric where the weaving stops and is finished by the loom, as opposed to denim woven on a projectile loom, where the fabric has been cut off at the ends. The "redline" selvage is Levi's signature and was used in all their jeans up to 1982, before Cone Mills nixed them for the more modern projectile looms, which are faster and much more efficient.

selvedge denim is typically of higher quality, with better, more durable fabric. also, dyes tend to respond better to selvedge denim, because of the tighter weaving of the cotton.

also, selvedge denim, when cuffed up, looks fantastic with the straight lined stitching.

another kind of denim that i wear is raw denim. this means that the dyes used on the jeans are left unwashed, undistressed, and free to bleed. jeans of this nature bleed all over any and every light colored surface, but in the end (months of unwashed usage), create beautifully customized wear on your pair of jeans.

combine raw with selvedge -- and you have, imo, the perfect pair of jeans.

some brands that have raw denim (you will not recognize a lot of these brands as they are only found in expensive boutiques):

nudie -- my personal favorite. nudie comminity here with plenty of before/after pictures of raw denim
apc -- the common denominator of raw denim (they have a shop in soho, nyc)
levis lvc -- lvc is 'levis vintage clothing' and by vintage, they mean that, as described above, the denim is made on vintage machines
evisu -- japanese brand, becoming more common in the usa. only the 'made in japan' evisu's are worth getting
prps, blue blood, supreme, red monkey, greige, etc... (there are tons of other brands)

notice the lack of diesel/seven. these jeans, by most part, are overpriced for the quality of denim you get. id much rather spend $200 on a pair of real quality nudies than an overhyped pair of diesels/sevens.

run of the mill gap/old navy/anchor blue/af/ae/hollister jeans are just that -- run of the mill. i dont spend my money on these. its like getting a celeron when you can get a core2duo instead.

what is raw denim?

check out those brands i mentioned, particularly nudie and the mynudies link i provided.

raw denim is when the indigo is left raw or unwashed on the denim. typically, when jeans are produced, they are dyed then sent to washers and abrasions to get the pre-worn look that is commonly seen.

with raw denim, you wear the denim and create the abrasions (rear knee honeycombs, front seat whiskars, front knee fading, etc...) yourself with natural wear... you wear the raw denim jeans for long periods of time without wash to create a jean that is, without a doubt, your own.

here is another link to what denim looks like raw and after wear&wash: the evolution of jeans

you are a god!!!! I want to know more. Do you have aim?

 

[herbiehancock]

Originally posted by: CasioTech

Originally posted by: wicktron
i am a certified denim junkie and consider myself knowledgeable in everything related to jeans.

i personally only wear selvedge/selvage denim.
selvedge denim is described as:

Selvage and selvedge mean exactly the same thing - different companies spell it differently and there apparently is no "right" way to spell it. It comes from the phrase "self-edge" which refers to the edge being finished by the loom instead of sewn together after weaving. [thanks Geowu]. Selvage is the term commonly used to refer to denim that has been produced on a shuttle loom. Since the amount of fabric produced from a shuttle loom is significantly narrower than a projectile (wide) loom, the cotton consumption is higher and the time required is greater. In selvage jeans, you will see the actual edge of the fabric where the weaving stops and is finished by the loom, as opposed to denim woven on a projectile loom, where the fabric has been cut off at the ends. The "redline" selvage is Levi's signature and was used in all their jeans up to 1982, before Cone Mills nixed them for the more modern projectile looms, which are faster and much more efficient.

selvedge denim is typically of higher quality, with better, more durable fabric. also, dyes tend to respond better to selvedge denim, because of the tighter weaving of the cotton.

also, selvedge denim, when cuffed up, looks fantastic with the straight lined stitching.

another kind of denim that i wear is raw denim. this means that the dyes used on the jeans are left unwashed, undistressed, and free to bleed. jeans of this nature bleed all over any and every light colored surface, but in the end (months of unwashed usage), create beautifully customized wear on your pair of jeans.

combine raw with selvedge -- and you have, imo, the perfect pair of jeans.

some brands that have raw denim (you will not recognize a lot of these brands as they are only found in expensive boutiques):

nudie -- my personal favorite. nudie comminity here with plenty of before/after pictures of raw denim
apc -- the common denominator of raw denim (they have a shop in soho, nyc)
levis lvc -- lvc is 'levis vintage clothing' and by vintage, they mean that, as described above, the denim is made on vintage machines
evisu -- japanese brand, becoming more common in the usa. only the 'made in japan' evisu's are worth getting
prps, blue blood, supreme, red monkey, greige, etc... (there are tons of other brands)

notice the lack of diesel/seven. these jeans, by most part, are overpriced for the quality of denim you get. id much rather spend $200 on a pair of real quality nudies than an overhyped pair of diesels/sevens.

run of the mill gap/old navy/anchor blue/af/ae/hollister jeans are just that -- run of the mill. i dont spend my money on these. its like getting a celeron when you can get a core2duo instead.

what is raw denim?

So, I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit, eh? (See bolded part above.....raw denim is explained already.)

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: herbiehancock

Originally posted by: CasioTech

Originally posted by: wicktron
i am a certified denim junkie and consider myself knowledgeable in everything related to jeans.

i personally only wear selvedge/selvage denim.
selvedge denim is described as:

Selvage and selvedge mean exactly the same thing - different companies spell it differently and there apparently is no "right" way to spell it. It comes from the phrase "self-edge" which refers to the edge being finished by the loom instead of sewn together after weaving. [thanks Geowu]. Selvage is the term commonly used to refer to denim that has been produced on a shuttle loom. Since the amount of fabric produced from a shuttle loom is significantly narrower than a projectile (wide) loom, the cotton consumption is higher and the time required is greater. In selvage jeans, you will see the actual edge of the fabric where the weaving stops and is finished by the loom, as opposed to denim woven on a projectile loom, where the fabric has been cut off at the ends. The "redline" selvage is Levi's signature and was used in all their jeans up to 1982, before Cone Mills nixed them for the more modern projectile looms, which are faster and much more efficient.

selvedge denim is typically of higher quality, with better, more durable fabric. also, dyes tend to respond better to selvedge denim, because of the tighter weaving of the cotton.

also, selvedge denim, when cuffed up, looks fantastic with the straight lined stitching.

another kind of denim that i wear is raw denim. this means that the dyes used on the jeans are left unwashed, undistressed, and free to bleed. jeans of this nature bleed all over any and every light colored surface, but in the end (months of unwashed usage), create beautifully customized wear on your pair of jeans.

combine raw with selvedge -- and you have, imo, the perfect pair of jeans.

some brands that have raw denim (you will not recognize a lot of these brands as they are only found in expensive boutiques):

nudie -- my personal favorite. nudie comminity here with plenty of before/after pictures of raw denim
apc -- the common denominator of raw denim (they have a shop in soho, nyc)
levis lvc -- lvc is 'levis vintage clothing' and by vintage, they mean that, as described above, the denim is made on vintage machines
evisu -- japanese brand, becoming more common in the usa. only the 'made in japan' evisu's are worth getting
prps, blue blood, supreme, red monkey, greige, etc... (there are tons of other brands)

notice the lack of diesel/seven. these jeans, by most part, are overpriced for the quality of denim you get. id much rather spend $200 on a pair of real quality nudies than an overhyped pair of diesels/sevens.

run of the mill gap/old navy/anchor blue/af/ae/hollister jeans are just that -- run of the mill. i dont spend my money on these. its like getting a celeron when you can get a core2duo instead.

what is raw denim?

So, I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit, eh? (See bolded part above.....raw denim is explained already.)

i'm better at reading comprehension then you my friend, believe that. I asked in part to understand the process of how one breaks in the jeans so well. I don't understand why ppl don't wash their jeans for years. How is that possible and how do they fit so well without stretching, etc. It's like they wrap right around the knee, which I find amazing. Are they ultra slim?

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: wicktron
i am a certified denim junkie and consider myself knowledgeable in everything related to jeans.

i personally only wear selvedge/selvage denim.
selvedge denim is described as:

Selvage and selvedge mean exactly the same thing - different companies spell it differently and there apparently is no "right" way to spell it. It comes from the phrase "self-edge" which refers to the edge being finished by the loom instead of sewn together after weaving. [thanks Geowu]. Selvage is the term commonly used to refer to denim that has been produced on a shuttle loom. Since the amount of fabric produced from a shuttle loom is significantly narrower than a projectile (wide) loom, the cotton consumption is higher and the time required is greater. In selvage jeans, you will see the actual edge of the fabric where the weaving stops and is finished by the loom, as opposed to denim woven on a projectile loom, where the fabric has been cut off at the ends. The "redline" selvage is Levi's signature and was used in all their jeans up to 1982, before Cone Mills nixed them for the more modern projectile looms, which are faster and much more efficient.

selvedge denim is typically of higher quality, with better, more durable fabric. also, dyes tend to respond better to selvedge denim, because of the tighter weaving of the cotton.

also, selvedge denim, when cuffed up, looks fantastic with the straight lined stitching.

another kind of denim that i wear is raw denim. this means that the dyes used on the jeans are left unwashed, undistressed, and free to bleed. jeans of this nature bleed all over any and every light colored surface, but in the end (months of unwashed usage), create beautifully customized wear on your pair of jeans.

combine raw with selvedge -- and you have, imo, the perfect pair of jeans.

some brands that have raw denim (you will not recognize a lot of these brands as they are only found in expensive boutiques):

nudie -- my personal favorite. nudie comminity here with plenty of before/after pictures of raw denim
apc -- the common denominator of raw denim (they have a shop in soho, nyc)
levis lvc -- lvc is 'levis vintage clothing' and by vintage, they mean that, as described above, the denim is made on vintage machines
evisu -- japanese brand, becoming more common in the usa. only the 'made in japan' evisu's are worth getting
prps, blue blood, supreme, red monkey, greige, etc... (there are tons of other brands)

notice the lack of diesel/seven. these jeans, by most part, are overpriced for the quality of denim you get. id much rather spend $200 on a pair of real quality nudies than an overhyped pair of diesels/sevens.

run of the mill gap/old navy/anchor blue/af/ae/hollister jeans are just that -- run of the mill. i dont spend my money on these. its like getting a celeron when you can get a core2duo instead.

WOW, another denimhead here.

I'm into more modern cuts (currently wearing some APC New Standards), and I'd say my favorite jeans are by Dior Homme but I'm too poor to buy a pair at $250 for the non-selvage or $400 for selvage. I think I've tried on Dior Homme 19cm's at Barney's like four times. Their employees must hate me.

----------

I've only had one Express experience, and it doesn't make me want to go back.

About a month ago I saw window display with a cool track jacket so against my better judgment, I entered Express Men. Inside, my I heard bad music playing (not as bad as A&F or Old Navy, but close) and saw some wiggers trying to impress girls by trying on blazers they obviously weren't going to buy. I saw tons of denim, but I couldn't care less about that. The track jacket does fitsme very well (a rarity on lower end garments. I'm 6'2" 160 with a 79" wingspan so most clothes are always to wide or short in length or sleeves) so I can't complain too much. As I'm paying too much for the mediocre quality you get from a mall brand, the gay guy at the counter starts hitting on me. It's not like I'm gonna beat him up anything but I was just a bit surprised I triggered someone's gaydar.

 

[wicktron]

Originally posted by: CasioTech


i'm better at reading comprehension then you my friend, believe that. I asked in part to understand the process of how one breaks in the jeans so well. I don't understand why ppl don't wash their jeans for years. How is that possible and how do they fit so well without stretching, etc. It's like they wrap right around the knee, which I find amazing. Are they ultra slim?

some jeans do strech, particularly apc's. i had to size down about 2 sizes (i typically wear 30w, i got a 28w for my pair of apc rescue's).

however, some jeans minimize stretch through a process called 'sanforization' which is:

Sanforizing denim is a method of stretching and manipulating the cloth in the factory prior to any washing so that any shrinking during future washes will be minimalized. It is important to note if your raw jeans are sanforized or not before determining what size to buy, non-sanforized jeans will shrink 7-10%, while sanforized jeans will shrink 1-5%.

it only mentions the minimizing of shrinking, but it does also minimize stretching.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Whoa, seems like there's alot more to jeans than I thought :Q

 

[wicktron]

i never mentioned this in my post, but i like either straight or slightly bootcut jeans.

my favorite pair of jeans by far is my pair of nudie regular ralf dry selvage

n yusef, hate me if you want for being a part of the nudie hype, but the color contrast of these jeans are incredible. i like those dior's as well, but way too expensive for my likes. id jump in some nbhd jeans at that price point.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: CasioTech

Originally posted by: herbiehancock

Originally posted by: CasioTech

Originally posted by: wicktron
i am a certified denim junkie and consider myself knowledgeable in everything related to jeans.

i personally only wear selvedge/selvage denim.
selvedge denim is described as:

Selvage and selvedge mean exactly the same thing - different companies spell it differently and there apparently is no "right" way to spell it. It comes from the phrase "self-edge" which refers to the edge being finished by the loom instead of sewn together after weaving. [thanks Geowu]. Selvage is the term commonly used to refer to denim that has been produced on a shuttle loom. Since the amount of fabric produced from a shuttle loom is significantly narrower than a projectile (wide) loom, the cotton consumption is higher and the time required is greater. In selvage jeans, you will see the actual edge of the fabric where the weaving stops and is finished by the loom, as opposed to denim woven on a projectile loom, where the fabric has been cut off at the ends. The "redline" selvage is Levi's signature and was used in all their jeans up to 1982, before Cone Mills nixed them for the more modern projectile looms, which are faster and much more efficient.

selvedge denim is typically of higher quality, with better, more durable fabric. also, dyes tend to respond better to selvedge denim, because of the tighter weaving of the cotton.

also, selvedge denim, when cuffed up, looks fantastic with the straight lined stitching.

another kind of denim that i wear is raw denim. this means that the dyes used on the jeans are left unwashed, undistressed, and free to bleed. jeans of this nature bleed all over any and every light colored surface, but in the end (months of unwashed usage), create beautifully customized wear on your pair of jeans.

combine raw with selvedge -- and you have, imo, the perfect pair of jeans.

some brands that have raw denim (you will not recognize a lot of these brands as they are only found in expensive boutiques):

nudie -- my personal favorite. nudie comminity here with plenty of before/after pictures of raw denim
apc -- the common denominator of raw denim (they have a shop in soho, nyc)
levis lvc -- lvc is 'levis vintage clothing' and by vintage, they mean that, as described above, the denim is made on vintage machines
evisu -- japanese brand, becoming more common in the usa. only the 'made in japan' evisu's are worth getting
prps, blue blood, supreme, red monkey, greige, etc... (there are tons of other brands)

notice the lack of diesel/seven. these jeans, by most part, are overpriced for the quality of denim you get. id much rather spend $200 on a pair of real quality nudies than an overhyped pair of diesels/sevens.

run of the mill gap/old navy/anchor blue/af/ae/hollister jeans are just that -- run of the mill. i dont spend my money on these. its like getting a celeron when you can get a core2duo instead.

what is raw denim?

So, I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit, eh? (See bolded part above.....raw denim is explained already.)

i'm better at reading comprehension then you my friend, believe that. I asked in part to understand the process of how one breaks in the jeans so well. I don't understand why ppl don't wash their jeans for years. How is that possible and how do they fit so well without stretching, etc. It's like they wrap right around the knee, which I find amazing. Are they ultra slim?

I've only had one pair of raw jeans but I've been reading a lot before and after I bought them so I know a little bit about denim.

Raw denim stretches a little to a lot depending on who made it, but most stretching slows down or completely stops after about a month or two. My APC New Standards were almost skin tight when I bought them. They stretched about a size and a half in the first two weeks of wear (every day, so YMMV with less wear) and haven't stretched noticeably since (1.5 months in). APC is known for stretching way more than normal though.

Behind my knee are creases and when I stand there is a noticable knee bulge (sp?). Raw denim is generally really stiff from the starch used in their manufacturing so the same creases stay put. After some wear and washes the starch lessens so some people starch their jeans to accelerate fading.

You can get Raw denim in baggy to really slim cuts (Evisu being hip-hop baggy and Dior Homme being almost painted on), but bootcut is rare. Nudie does a pair of bootcut jeans but they don't flare much. I can't name another company that does Raw bootcut. I can answer more questions about raw denim over IM if you like (PM for screen name), but if you really want to learn, go here. I don't post on Superfuture but I've been lurking for a few months now. They have a good froum about general fashion too. They switched servers recently so their older threads won't open though.

 

[EngenZerO]

i wear ruehl no. 925 jeans...

same company as abercrombie, just more expensive and much nicer. similar to their ezra line of jeans but with out the crappy low rise...

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: wicktron

Originally posted by: CasioTech


i'm better at reading comprehension then you my friend, believe that. I asked in part to understand the process of how one breaks in the jeans so well. I don't understand why ppl don't wash their jeans for years. How is that possible and how do they fit so well without stretching, etc. It's like they wrap right around the knee, which I find amazing. Are they ultra slim?

some jeans do strech, particularly apc's. i had to size down about 2 sizes (i typically wear 30w, i got a 28w for my pair of apc rescue's).

however, some jeans minimize stretch through a process called 'sanforization' which is:

Sanforizing denim is a method of stretching and manipulating the cloth in the factory prior to any washing so that any shrinking during future washes will be minimalized. It is important to note if your raw jeans are sanforized or not before determining what size to buy, non-sanforized jeans will shrink 7-10%, while sanforized jeans will shrink 1-5%.

it only mentions the minimizing of shrinking, but it does also minimize stretching.

I didn't know sanforization minmized stretching. I've never heard people talk about how much their unsanforized Repro's stretched, while APC is known for stretching tons and AFAIK is sanforized, but I'll take your word for it. Also, APC's sizes are just fvcked up. I have size 29 New Standards and they measured 31" when I bought them. They are at ~32.5" now.

 

[wicktron]

Originally posted by: n yusef


I've only had one pair of raw jeans but I've been reading a lot before and after I bought them so I know a little bit about denim.

Raw denim stretches a little to a lot depending on who made it, but most stretching slows down or completely stops after about a month or two. My APC New Standards were almost skin tight when I bought them. They stretched about a size and a half in the first two weeks of wear (every day, so YMMV with less wear) and haven't stretched noticeably since (1.5 months in). APC is known for stretching way more than normal though.

Behind my knee are creases and when I stand there is a noticable knee bulge (sp?). Raw denim is generally really stiff from the starch used in their manufacturing so the same creases stay put. After some wear and washes the starch lessens so some people starch their jeans to accelerate fading.

You can get Raw denim in baggy to really slim cuts (Evisu being hip-hop baggy and Dior Homme being almost painted on), but bootcut is rare. Nudie does a pair of bootcut jeans but they don't flare much. I can't name another company that does Raw bootcut. I can answer more questions about raw denim over IM if you like (PM for screen name), but if you really want to learn, go here. I don't post on Superfuture but I've been lurking for a few months now. They have a good froum about general fashion too. They switched servers recently so their older threads won't open though.

Co-sign on using SuperFuture as a resource.

 

[imported_Imp]

Best pair is Bluenotes. Point Zero takes number 2. Gap was the most expensive and had the coolst wash, but I bought them a size or 2 too small; now I can't stand keeping them on longer than 5 seconds. That's if I manage to get them on, and for boot cut, they feel like tights. By the way, yes I got wider, but when they actually fit when I first got them, they still like as*.

 

[Tom]

jesus, this thread is scary..

 

[Safeway]

Lucky Brand Jeans.

 

[wicktron]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: wicktron

Originally posted by: CasioTech


i'm better at reading comprehension then you my friend, believe that. I asked in part to understand the process of how one breaks in the jeans so well. I don't understand why ppl don't wash their jeans for years. How is that possible and how do they fit so well without stretching, etc. It's like they wrap right around the knee, which I find amazing. Are they ultra slim?

some jeans do strech, particularly apc's. i had to size down about 2 sizes (i typically wear 30w, i got a 28w for my pair of apc rescue's).

however, some jeans minimize stretch through a process called 'sanforization' which is:

Sanforizing denim is a method of stretching and manipulating the cloth in the factory prior to any washing so that any shrinking during future washes will be minimalized. It is important to note if your raw jeans are sanforized or not before determining what size to buy, non-sanforized jeans will shrink 7-10%, while sanforized jeans will shrink 1-5%.

it only mentions the minimizing of shrinking, but it does also minimize stretching.

I didn't know sanforization minmized stretching. I've never heard people talk about how much their unsanforized Repro's stretched, while APC is known for stretching tons and AFAIK is sanforized, but I'll take your word for it. Also, APC's sizes are just fvcked up. I have size 29 New Standards and they measured 31" when I bought them. They are at ~32.5" now.

hmmm. perhaps im wrong about the sanforization. but i thought it to be true.

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: sash1
American Eagle?

My favorite would have to be jeans from Express Men. I love Express clothing. Only buy it when it's on sale, though.

express? your one step away from being a girl

 

[ultimatebob]

I like Wrangler's, Levi's, and Lee jeans myself, but then I'm not one of those metrosexual fashionistas who wastes their money on $100 jeans.

 

[wicktron]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I like Wrangler's, Levi's, and Lee jeans myself, but then I'm not one of those metrosexual fashionistas who wastes their money on $100 jeans.

are you then an uber-l33t nerd who spends inordinate amounts of money on your computer? i mean, the arguments for how you 'waste' your money really depends on what you're into.

personally, i like to look good in nice clothes, so i dont really consider it a waste by any means.

 

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Originally posted by: CasioTech

Originally posted by: Fritzo
I like Levi's straight leg, 36 length. I like to go barefoot, and the long legs cover my feet

(I know...the whole sock option is there, but I'm not big on socks)

36, god damn are you 6'3''?

I wear 36's and I'm 5'10.