Jeb Bush is afraid of Asian Anchor Babies not Hispanic ones

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From: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...5db8117e4b08cd3359cf324?kvcommref=mostpopular

GOP presidential hopeful Jeb Bush claimed on Monday that his use of the term “anchor babies” was not offensive because he was referring to the practice of people, primarily Asians

“What I was talking about was the specific case of fraud being committed, where there’s organized efforts, and frankly it’s more related to Asian people coming into our country having children in that organized effort, taking advantage of a noble concept, which is birthright citizenship,” he said.

“As I said in Spanish, my background, my life, the fact I’ve been immersed in the immigrant experience, this is ludicrous for the Clinton campaign and others to suggest that somehow I’m using a derogatory term,” Bush said Monday.

The term “anchor babies” and the recent wave of Republican presidential candidates calling for an end to birthright citizenship is likely to offend Asian immigrants, just as it offended Hispanic immigrants. Asian-Americans are the fastest growing minority group in the country and are becoming more politically active, making up 3.4 percent of the electorate in 2012. Immigration is one of the top issues for Asian voters, and many of them are beneficiaries of birthright citizenship.

Historically, a lot of anti-immigrant rhetoric and moves to end birthright citizenship have stemmed from a backlash against Asian immigrants. Anti-Chinese sentiment was rampant in the United States in the late 19th century, as many people worried that these "racially inferior" individuals would take jobs away from hardworking Americans. Those fears led to the passage of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, which essentially stopped Chinese immigration and barred Chinese residents of the U.S. from becoming citizens.

Officials also tried to stop the American-born children of Chinese immigrants from becoming citizens. But in 1898 the Supreme Court affirmed in United States v. Wong Kim Ark that immigrants' children born in the United States are entitled to citizenship.

Way to be a racist jackass Jeb Bush! What's next Asian Internment Camps like WWII?
 

KillerBee

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Just glad see candidates are addressing the major issues with the country

How did this even become a thing?
I just wonder who was that original person who thought ..."these anchor babies are pissing me off ...I'm going to send a memo up the chain of command to see if something can be done about it"
 
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smackababy

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I think this issue is a being boiled down to some really idiotic points. Should two immigrants that legally came to the US to reside (through work sponsorship or otherwise) and have a child not have said child granted US citizenship? Of course that kid should be a US citizen. Should a pregnant immigrant come to the US for "vacation" and pop the kid out be granted the same? Well, I'm kind of on the fence about it. It wasn't the child's fault or intention to do this and shouldn't be penalized, but the parents shouldn't be "rewarded" by allowing them to stay.
 

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I think this issue is a being boiled down to some really idiotic points. Should two immigrants that legally came to the US to reside (through work sponsorship or otherwise) and have a child not have said child granted US citizenship? Of course that kid should be a US citizen. Should a pregnant immigrant come to the US for "vacation" and pop the kid out be granted the same? Well, I'm kind of on the fence about it. It wasn't the child's fault or intention to do this and shouldn't be penalized, but the parents shouldn't be "rewarded" by allowing them to stay.

Of all the things to talk about how the hell did this become an issue?
 

smackababy

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Of all the things to talk about how the hell did this become an issue?

It is a real issue in some areas. There are houses dedicated to immigrants coming into the country to simply have their baby. Do I think that is the most important issue facing the country? Certainly not, but elections are rarely about that anyway.
 
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Anchor babies are an issue regardless of the ethnicity. No one should be violating immigration laws first to take advantage of a constitutional amendment. We need to fix the system.
 

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Sounds like, "hey, you Hispanics should vote for me, because I speak Spanish. Oh, and I wasn't referring to your anchor babies, it was the, uh, Asian anchor babies. Yeah, that's it." So, now, he's pissed off the Hispanic vote AND the Asian vote.
 

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It is a real issue in some areas. There are houses dedicated to immigrants coming into the country to simply have their baby. Do I think that is the most important issue facing the country? Certainly not, but elections are rarely about that anyway.

lol - yep we are close to election by Twitter
 

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Sounds like, "hey, you Hispanics should vote for me, because I speak Spanish. Oh, and I wasn't referring to your anchor babies, it was the, uh, Asian anchor babies. Yeah, that's it." So, now, he's pissed off the Hispanic vote AND the Asian vote.

Basically this.
 

smackababy

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What I'm wondering is how much additional contribution does a child born in the US to immigrant parents have to the economy than one born outside the US and illegally entering the country as a child.
 

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I want to know what exactly the problem is, other than potential welfare fraud surrounding births. Can these "Anchor Babies" sponsor their parents' citizenship before they grow up (18+)?

In any case, we have now gone from those "illegals who rape and murder Americans," who are allegedly sent by Mexico, to those "rich Asian women who tour to give birth and to buy Louis Vuittons." The two are totally different issues yet there is an unmistakable undercurrent shared by them. I do not feel like spelling it out.
 

Indus

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I want to know an these "Anchor Babies" sponsor their parents' citizenship before they grow up (18+)?

Yes they can provided they have paid their taxes on time for the last 5 years and they have enough assets or income per person to show they can legally support and provide for the alien being sponsored so that the alien being sponsored does not become a burden on the government.
 

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Yay, let's alienate the Asian voting bloc, a traditionally more conservative voting group.
 

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So, now, he's pissed off the Hispanic vote AND the Asian vote.
This is probably more of the GOP's philosophy of a "big tent".
If they keep going this direction, you'll be able to fit the GOP under an umbrella.
 

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I guess he figures it's a smaller voting bloc to alienate.
I also think he's hoping the Hispanic voting block is stupid enough to believe him. Seems that this draws more attention to his position on anchor babies. And, with that position, it's ludicrous that 10 of the other Republicans are talking about Hispanic anchor babies, and he's the only one okay with them, but having a problem with Asian anchor babies.
 

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Should a pregnant immigrant come to the US for "vacation" and pop the kid out be granted the same? Well, I'm kind of on the fence about it. It wasn't the child's fault or intention to do this and shouldn't be penalized, but the parents shouldn't be "rewarded" by allowing them to stay.

If this is a problem, make a law denying entry into the U.S. to pregnant women, or third trimester pregnant women.

Don't blame the women though, they are just taking advantage of the law in the same way that people take advantage of legal tax loopholes.
 

smackababy

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I want to know what exactly the problem is, other than potential welfare fraud surrounding births. Can these "Anchor Babies" sponsor their parents' citizenship before they grow up (18+)?

In any case, we have now gone from those "illegals who rape and murder Americans," who are allegedly sent by Mexico, to those "rich Asian women who tour to give birth and to buy Louis Vuittons." The two are totally different issues yet there is an unmistakable undercurrent shared by them. I do not feel like spelling it out.

These aren't rich Asian women who buy Louis Vuitton.

If this is a problem, make a law denying entry into the U.S. to pregnant women, or third trimester pregnant women.

Don't blame the women though, they are just taking advantage of the law in the same way that people take advantage of legal tax loopholes.

What? I can blame the women. They are knowingly taking advantage of a loophole. Same as a blame those taking advantage of legal tax loopholes for doing that.

America has a fear of deporting children that are US citizens after the whole Elian Gonzalez spectacle.
 
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I recall seeing Jeb Bush in a Florida gubernatorial debate a long time ago, in the 90's, and thinking that he seemed quite intelligent. I always felt he was brighter than his brother. But now he seems like quite the gaff machine. For example, you'd think he'd be better prepared for questions about the Iraq war, knowing that the fact his brother started an unpopular war would be a difficult point for him. Instead, he tried to wing it and flubbed. This nonsense is more of the same.

At the beginning of the primaries I thought he had the best chance to get the nomination. At present I'm rating his chances as negligible.
 

Genx87

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If we dont deal with this now. More and more people will swim from Asia to our shores to have babbys and steal our jerbs.
 

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Has the entire Republican Party lost their god damn mind? Serious question. Of all the issues facing this country, the entire field is stuck on talking about abortion and hating on immigrants. The entire party has essentially taken the post-mortem analysis after Romney's failed bid and wiped their collective asses with it. How do they possibly think they can win a general election by pissing off every minority group in the country, and a sizable chunk of one gender as well?
 

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Has the entire Republican Party lost their god damn mind? Serious question. Of all the issues facing this country, the entire field is stuck on talking about abortion and hating on immigrants. The entire party has essentially taken the post-mortem analysis after Romney's failed bid and wiped their collective asses with it. How do they possibly think they can win a general election by pissing off every minority group in the country, and a sizable chunk of one gender as well?

It's the end result of a conflict that occurs when these Repub hopefuls are pandering to their base consisting of far right wing nut-jobs and then having to deal with the reality of arduously not appearing to contradict themselves in convincing fashion to win a general election.

The person that can do that the best without having to look/act like a flip flopper or a lunatic is the winner.

edit - And the beauty of it all is that it's completely self-inflicted without any assistance from the Dems or Independents.
 
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