Jeb Bush is afraid of Asian Anchor Babies not Hispanic ones

[Indus]

Has the entire Republican Party lost their god damn mind? Serious question. Of all the issues facing this country, the entire field is stuck on talking about abortion and hating on immigrants. The entire party has essentially taken the post-mortem analysis after Romney's failed bid and wiped their collective asses with it. How do they possibly think they can win a general election by pissing off every minority group in the country, and a sizable chunk of one gender as well?

The bible says only white man is capable of ruling the earth!

It's in the bible.

Bible Logic 101.

If the pope says anything against the bible, he's a marxist, socialist, umm you name it.

Oh and Bengazi.

 

[sunzt]

Yay, let's alienate the Asian voting bloc, a traditionally more conservative voting group.

Culturally speaking, Asians are conservative/traditionalist. However, Asians favor big government, regulations, and social services. This is why Asians largely vote Democrat.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I suspect his target is people who come in under H1B work visas who have their kids in the US in order to get greencards for themselves...

 

[Chaotic0ne]

I don't understand why anyone would even consider voting for another Bush..... Its no wonder Trump is in the lead because the Republicans are running nothing but jackasses, hacks and phonies.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Culturally speaking, Asians are conservative/traditionalist. However, Asians favor big government, regulations, and social services. This is why Asians largely vote Democrat.

Whats puzzling is that much of Republican platform seems like it would have a lot of appeal to Hispanics, and would lead to a powerful voting base if they could bring a good chunk of them into the fold. Of course that is just fantasy because the fact that they are slightly brown skinned and dont all speak English as a first language makes them very poor bedfellows with the xenophobes that make up a substantial chunk of their predominantly white male voting base. When you look at the demographic trends in this country, and the fact that Republicans have only won the popular vote 1 of the past 6 election cycles, barring some massive upheaval on the democratic ticket at the last minute, ie a major medical event or massive scandal, I just dont see a Republican path to victory with such a narrow coalition. Already the loss of Florida or Ohio pretty much does the Republicans in, while democrats could afford to lose both and still have a path to victory. Furthermore, demographic shifts are going to see Texas become a tossup state in the not so distant future. Republicans better shake off their disdain for non-white people if they ever hope to see the inside of the white house again.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I suspect his target is people who come in under H1B work visas who have their kids in the US in order to get greencards for themselves...

Not generally. It's more of an 'investment in the future' by, mainly, Chinese families with money and the ability to travel.

For example:

http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/30/news/china-moms-birth-tourism-fraud/

http://world.time.com/2013/11/27/chinese-women-are-flocking-to-the-u-s-to-have-babies/

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/03/birth-tourism-california-chinese-women-homes-raided

 

[Riparian]

Asians voted for Obama in slightly higher percentages than Hispanics did in 2012.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president/exit-polls

The trend for Asian Americans is definitely leaning more and more Democratic, however, the trend is relatively recent:

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2014/10/29-2014-midterms-asian-american-voting-patterns-lee

For Bill Clinton's first run in 1992, he garnered only 31% of the Asian American vote, whereas today, Asian Americans seem to heavily favor Democratic presidents.

Then there's the complication thrown in by the 2014 midterm elections exit polling results that showed that 50% of AAs voted for Republicans and 49% for Democrats. Essentially, it's hard to determine which direction AAs will vote. As sunzt stated, older generation AAs are culturally conservative, which often seeps into their voting trends. Anyways, my original post was just me reflecting on how sad it is to me that a political candidate would alienate a relatively elastic voting bloc.

 

[chowderhead]

The trend for Asian Americans is definitely leaning more and more Democratic, however, the trend is relatively recent:

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2014/10/29-2014-midterms-asian-american-voting-patterns-lee

For Bill Clinton's first run in 1992, he garnered only 31% of the Asian American vote, whereas today, Asian Americans seem to heavily favor Democratic presidents.

Then there's the complication thrown in by the 2014 midterm elections exit polling results that showed that 50% of AAs voted for Republicans and 49% for Democrats. Essentially, it's hard to determine which direction AAs will vote. As sunzt stated, older generation AAs are culturally conservative, which often seeps into their voting trends. Anyways, my original post was just me reflecting on how sad it is to me that a political candidate would alienate a relatively elastic voting bloc.

It's not THESE anchor babies ... it's THOSE ones I have a problem with. Great Jeb! Thanks.

Asian voters are mostly located in the coastal states such as California, New York, Hawaii, Washington, etc. Their voting is negligible to the Republican coalition of target states. Maybe, Asian voters will have some impact in battleground Nevada and Virginia.
Immigration and illegal immigration is part of the economic anxiety people are feeling. Trump is a candidate who is talking about the issue with a megaphone but he is addressing at the core some of the base feelings that some people are feeling. Clinton is also somewhat addressing the economic uncertainty. The other Republicans will have to follow Trump's lead of this or see their poll numbers drop i.e. Graham, Perry, Paul and now Jeb!

 

[Newell Steamer]

I'm such an idiot - and all this time I thought the GOP was against equality, when here we have an example of more than one race being xenophobed on!

I am so ashamed of myself.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Well it does happen but not sure that it's such a huge widespread issue..

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/tourism-652861-women-federal.html

 

[werepossum]

Anchor babies are an issue regardless of the ethnicity. No one should be violating immigration laws first to take advantage of a constitutional amendment. We need to fix the system.

Exactly. But when someone says "Oh, I wasn't being racist by saying 'anchor babies' because I only meant Asian babies" that person is literally too stupid to be taken seriously.

This is how someone can raise a billion dollars and get trounced by fucking Donald Trump.

 

[alcoholbob]

Yay, let's alienate the Asian voting bloc, a traditionally more conservative voting group.

Being conservative and voting for the party that passed legislation to kick you out of the country are two different things though. The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1870 and the Asian Exlusion Act of 1924 were both penned by Republicans and the Magnuson Act which repealed these actions were passed by Democrats. Ultimately Asians are sensitive to this.

Of course in the long run with affirmative action and increasing calls for socialism, Asians will invariably forget about the past once the pocket book becomes a larger concern, and future Asians probably will overwhelmingly vote Republican.

 

[Indus]

I don't think Asians will vote for a candidate that opposes green cards for their families/ friends. It's the number one issue for most.

 

[smackababy]

Being conservative and voting for the party that passed legislation to kick you out of the country are two different things though. The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1870 and the Asian Exlusion Act of 1924 were both penned by Republicans and the Magnuson Act which repealed these actions were passed by Democrats. Ultimately Asians are sensitive to this.

Of course in the long run with affirmative action and increasing calls for socialism, Asians will invariably forget about the past once the pocket book becomes a larger concern, and future Asians probably will overwhelmingly vote Republican.

Are they really sensitive to legislation passed almost 100 years ago?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Are they really sensitive to legislation passed almost 100 years ago?

At least some Asian-Americans seem to be.

"Since 2010 the 1882 Project, a non-partisan coalition of Chinese-American and Asian-American leaders and their supporters, pushed for a formal apology from Congress for the Chinese Exclusion Act. From 1882 to 1943, Congress enacted a series of Chinese Exclusion laws prohibiting people of Chinese ancestry from becoming naturalized citizens in the U.S."

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/222217/187/Congress-Makes-Formal-Apology-For-Chinese-Exclusion-Act

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Exactly. But when someone says "Oh, I wasn't being racist by saying 'anchor babies' because I only meant Asian babies" that person is literally too stupid to be taken seriously.

This is how someone can raise a billion dollars and get trounced by fucking Donald Trump.

I agree. He definitely sounded stupid this time around. As an Asian American I frown on birth tourism also, but it's at least legal. I'd lump it in the same category as tax loopholes--not illegal, but something that we should probably get rid of or find a fix to the system.

I'm personally more concerned over anchor babies of illegal immigrants.

 

[disappoint]

I also think he's hoping the Hispanic voting block is stupid enough to believe him. Seems that this draws more attention to his position on anchor babies. And, with that position, it's ludicrous that 10 of the other Republicans are talking about Hispanic anchor babies, and he's the only one okay with them, but having a problem with Asian anchor babies.

Maybe he's worried Asian anchor babies will take the jobs Americans want, but Hispanic anchor babies won't.

 

[sunzt]

Being conservative and voting for the party that passed legislation to kick you out of the country are two different things though. The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1870 and the Asian Exlusion Act of 1924 were both penned by Republicans and the Magnuson Act which repealed these actions were passed by Democrats. Ultimately Asians are sensitive to this.

Of course in the long run with affirmative action and increasing calls for socialism, Asians will invariably forget about the past once the pocket book becomes a larger concern, and future Asians probably will overwhelmingly vote Republican.

lol what? Most Asians i know don't remember 1924, 1870, or give two shits about it right now. Some politically sensitive and active asian youths may care, but everyone realizes that shit happened generations ago before my grandparents were probably born.

You are also off on the last paragraph. Asians do not mind, and actually favor, a larger government that provides adequate social services, good public education, takes care of the environment, and ensures stability.

Notice that every asian government is a large bureaucracy that leans toward government intervention and involvement. No, you will not find many "small government" types in asia.

 

[smackababy]

Maybe he's worried Asian anchor babies will take the jobs Americans want, but Hispanic anchor babies won't.

I don't think he is worried so much about the babies, but the parents. Hispanic illegals generally are stereotyped has not having much in marketable skills, while Asians (all Asian, not just east Asian) are stereotyped as having tech skills that offer good wages.

 

[werepossum]

I agree. He definitely sounded stupid this time around. As an Asian American I frown on birth tourism also, but it's at least legal. I'd lump it in the same category as tax loopholes--not illegal, but something that we should probably get rid of or find a fix to the system.

I'm personally more concerned over anchor babies of illegal immigrants.

Agreed. Although if we could actually find the stones to enforce our borders, I don't think the problem would be significant be they legal or illegal.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

I agree. He definitely sounded stupid this time around. As an Asian American I frown on birth tourism also, but it's at least legal. I'd lump it in the same category as tax loopholes--not illegal, but something that we should probably get rid of or find a fix to the system.

I'm personally more concerned over anchor babies of illegal immigrants.

I don't see the difference between the two groups.

 

[MongGrel]

I don't see the difference between the two groups.

Not much really, just one has the money to do it legally and fly in with a passport and pay for doing it in style, vs other methods.

 

[werepossum]

I don't see the difference between the two groups.

Seriously? The word "illegal" doesn't give you any clues at all?

Not much really, just one has the money to do it legally and fly in with a passport and pay for doing it in style, vs other methods.

That's like saying you see no difference between people buying televisions and people stealing televisions. Same end result, just one has the money to do it legally, vs other methods.

 

[piasabird]

The main thing here is that a lot of voters want congress to do something about immigration. First congress made a bunch of red tape and made it really difficult to immigrate to this country legally. This just encourages more illegal immigration because as some have pointed out people want to live free and work and pay taxes in a country where Chinese people can have more than one child. A lot of Chinese people are being snuck in through the ports possibly as stowaways or inside shipping containers.