You're the guy living in fantasy-land. I don't have to decide one way or the other, why should I?
You're the guy living in fantasy-land. I don't have to decide one way or the other, why should I?So what do you believe? Do you trust an outside medical examiner and accounts of what happened? You know, evidence? You can't just throw your hands up in the air and pretend the facts don't lean one way or the other. All the clues so far point to suicide; you can accept that reality while keeping an open mind, or you can live in a fantasy land.
You're the guy living in fantasy-land. I don't have to decide one way or the other, why should I?
And it's standard practice for someone who is taken off a watch to have a cellmate? Who removed him?The prison shrinks did, after having him on watch and examining him daily for a week. It's more than possible to come across as non-suicidal when one is actually suicidal.
And it's standard practice for someone who is taken off a watch to have a cellmate? Who removed him?
Silly man, I don't have to have an opinion about everything. If you think you do, you've got a lot of explaining to do.Because the evidence largely points one way and not the other. You don't get to pick your reality just because you don't feel something is true. Otherwise, you're no better than a flat-Earther.
FFS, this conspiracy theory is so stupid. Prison guards aren't exactly known for being the cream of the crop; if they really wanted to kill Epstein, it would have been a lot easier to quietly do it before he got arrested.
Plea deals don't mean they flipped on someone. Yes, sometimes plea deals are offered to get people to testify against a bigger player. Oftentimes it's just done to save time and money from a trial.Plea deal means that they can put years around someone else's neck(s) ... Right?
Wtf did they uncover?
I guess whatever it is it doesnt have to tie to Epstein at all, so in regards to "Who sniped Epstein" this is a no story so far.
Suicidal people aren't exactly known for their rationality. He was basically facing life in prison.I think out of all the conspiracies this one has the most validity. The man was connected with just about every high profile billionaire or politician in some form, including royal families.
Why commit suicide when you could take all of them down with you? If he testified, and the evidence wasn't conveniently hidden, it would have made this whole Covid pandemic seem like back page news. Where is all the evidence from the his Island? The tapes not working is just too convenient.
Plea deals don't mean they flipped on someone. Yes, sometimes plea deals are offered to get people to testify against a bigger player. Oftentimes it's just done to save time and money from a trial.
There's often a steep drop off into despair. It's hard for the person or the shrinks to figure out how close they are to the edge.
It's also important to understand that his jailers really didn't want this to happen. While Epstein was a big deal on the outside, he's just another perv to them. They see plenty, I'm sure. From a professional perspective, this is very bad ju-ju. Very bad. They don't want the big bosses or the FBI crawling up their asses, ever. All they want is a steady uneventful stream of prisoners going to court & often on to prison. Keep it as smooth as possible. It just doesn't always work out that way. Fuckups happen, like everywhere else.
I don't know about that - if his jailers (meaning the entire management chain, not just the slackers at the cell doors, and including those "shrinks" as well - I have a very low opinion of that profession as it is) really felt it would be bad for them for this to have happened, they'd have done more to prevent it happening.
I suspect it's because they know, from experience, that there isn't really much comeback on them when they screw-up, that they didn't really care all that much. I don't believe he was murdered, but I do think there would be a bit of rough justice involved if all those responsible had to deal with the attentions and suspicions of conspiracy-theorists for evermore. The incompetence involved is staggering.
Gawd. A couple of low level slackers weren't doing their jobs. That's it. That's what happened. Just because it was Jeffrey fucking Epstein who killed himself rather than some ordinary schmoe changes nothing.
- You have no possible way of knowing that. You can assess that it is highly unlikely, but dealing in absolutes is painfully dull.Gawd. A couple of low level slackers weren't doing their jobs. That's it. That's what happened.
Of course it does. Number of people with motive to off ordinary "schmoe" vs Epstein - is obviously not 1:1.Just because it was Jeffrey fucking Epstein who killed himself rather than some ordinary schmoe changes nothing.
Maybe there are more cameras covering all ins and outs, thus eliminating the possibility for “murder”. Lots of maybe’s, we cant know, but have faith that a Biden DOJ would dig to the bottom of it.Epstein was murdered.
I have seen how the wealthy corrupt everything in this country. He was the pimp to the rich and powerful and knew to much.
You have a video camera pointed right at him, yet no tape of his death. "Accidently" erased.
How stupid do I think I am?
Maybe there are more cameras covering all ins and outs, thus eliminating the possibility for “murder”. Lots of maybe’s, we cant know, but have faith that a Biden DOJ would dig to the bottom of it.
Epstein was murdered.
I have seen how the wealthy corrupt everything in this country. He was the pimp to the rich and powerful and knew to much.
You have a video camera pointed right at him, yet no tape of his death. "Accidently" erased.
How stupid do I think I am?
Document the contention that he had a video camera pointed right at him.
Rather convenient the Cameras failed twice in a row like that."So Epstein's taken off suicide watch, the day before he kills himself, his roommate is removed from the cell. The cameras on his tier are not working. The guards fell asleep. It seems almost impossible to think all of those things could happen in that way," Alfonsi said.
Dr. Michael Baden: What I see here is that this noose doesn't match the ligature furrow mark. It's wider than this.
Sharyn Alfonsi: To the naked eye, it looks like there's some blood here. And it doesn't look like there's any blood on this noose.
Dr. Michael Baden: That's right. This looks like a clean noose that was never used to compress anybody's neck.
Sharyn Alfonsi: There's also something that's striking about the photos. It— the wound is down here. You'd think if somebody hung themselves the wound would be maybe up here.
Dr. Michael Baden: Yes. Most hangings— especially free hangings the ligature slides up to beneath the— the jawbone, the mandible. Here it's in the middle of the neck.
Dr. Baden says a wound straight across the neck is more common when a victim is strangled by a wire or cord.
Jeffrey Epstein: Jail CCTV erased by 'technical errors'
The jail mistakenly saved surveillance footage from the wrong cell block, prosecutors say.www.bbc.com
Surveillance Video From Jeffrey Epstein's First Apparent Suicide Attempt ‘No Longer Exists'
The surveillance footage taken from outside Jeffrey Epstein’s jail cell on the day of his first apparent suicide attempt has been permanently deleted, NBC News reported. Epstein, the disgraced financier who was facing federal sex-trafficking charges, was found semiconscious in his cell at the...www.nbcboston.com
note: if the tape from the camera pointed at his cell is missing, there must have been a camera pointed at his cell
It is also interesting the the first time around, a cell mate prevented his death. The solution was to place him alone in a cell ...
60 Minutes investigates the death of Jeffrey Epstein
Jeffrey Epstein was a convicted sex offender and a wealthy financier with powerful friends. 60 Minutes examines the circumstances surrounding his death in a Manhattan federal jail cell. Warning: This report contains graphic images.web.archive.org
Rather convenient the Cameras failed twice in a row like that.