Has this been debunked ?
also explain this to me, you never did get around to it the first time around.
Lots of bodies around the Clintons.
"Younger girls?" Try younger women. Find me a single 40 something or 50 something man who doesn't find some women (or men) in their 20's to be sexually attractive. It's the rule, not the exception. It's common and totally normal. It's why models, centerfolds, porn stars etc. are mostly in their late teens to middle 20's. Trying to use his diddling around with a 21 year old intern as "evidence" that he would have sex with Epstein's 14 and 15 year old victims is a laughably bad argument. If Clinton has an attraction to girls of that age, we haven't seen any evidence of it yet.
What deflection. Both presidents were involved with Epstein and I think both are suspect in his murder. There are many powerful people including two frikin presidents for crying out loud that didn’t want this going to trial as they would surely be brought up and it’s highly likely both men enjoyed what Epstein offered. If the media simply accepts this as a "suicide" and moves on journalism is dead.
Deflection?
This is factual evidence from a document dump yesterday, the day before he was found dead. Of all evidence and doc dumps, this is the ONLY evidence that comes close to Trump. None even mention Clinton or comes close to him directly.
And having your private club used as recruiting grounds for a well known predator is pretty shame inducing, at the very least.
But OK.
What deflection. Both presidents were involved with Epstein and I think both are suspect in his murder. There are many powerful people including two frikin presidents for crying out loud that didn’t want this going to trial as they would surely be brought up and it’s highly likely both men enjoyed what Epstein offered. If the media simply accepts this as a "suicide" and moves on journalism is dead.
Both are "suspect" eh? What you have is a possible motive and nothing more. The possible motive being based on the assumption that their associations with Epstein make them guilty in spite of no victim accusations whatsoever. Yet even if we assume, hypothetically, that one or both had sex with one or more Epstein victims, motive alone doesn't buy much in terms of suspicion. If Bernie Madoff suddenly died in jail, any one of his hundreds of wealthy victims would theoretically have a motive. You're going to need something a lot more concrete than that.
She was well paid for her silence?
A 21 year old and a 15 year old have both been through puberty. 15 is just a number, my son is around that age and a lot of the girls in his high school could pass as adults easily. I’m not arguing that men find them attractive, you’re naive or making excuses if you think Clinton was attracted to girls a few years younger than the girl he got caught with. He didn’t ID Monica and that’s when he got a boner.
Odd, but of all the names on that blogger's post, I missed Trump's name which was clearly in the book. Did I miss it or is the blogger just biased?
Actually a 14 and a 15 year old are both going through puberty, not been through.
Unless he was naked, clothing would do the job.Have any of you found an article that said how he did it? I think we probably all assumed hanging but I’d be really curious to the details.
Edit: NYT saying he hung himself. If you are on suicide watch what can you get hold of to allow you to hang your self?
It feels odd to be having this arguement but generally puberty ends for girls at around 14. No doubt they are still adolescents and I’m sure that’s what got Epstein off but as far as their bodies go there isn’t much different between a 15 year old and the girl Clinton fricked.
Agree to disagreebut as far as their bodies go there isn’t much different between a 15 year old and the girl Clinton fricked.
Also, physical appearance isn't everything. If I'm presented with two girls who otherwise look identical and I find out that one is 21 and the other is 14 I'm going to be immediately turned off by the 14 year old just knowing her age. I don't just mean I would refrain because it's illegal. I mean I'd be totally turned off. Wouldn't you?
I'm sure he'll be happy to summarize and cover up the investigation.Barr is calling for an investigation. I hope the investigations continue and EVERYONE who was in his circle and abusing young women is brought to justice.
I mean yes but these guys aren’t entering into relationships here, they are indulging fricking girls. There’s a girl stripping down, grabbing your crotch, flirting with you, really pushing it. These guys aren’t going to say "oh wait may I see your ID first?".. Get real
having one daughter gone through that age you notice all that shit too .. I am 99% sure I could have picked up likely pedos just walking through a populated area ... first the stare, then the eye contact with dad(me), then the 180 crazy ivan... and then the 1 out of 20 that would just lock eyes with you no regrets (and I am not a small guy). Some fcked up people out there.
Point of clarification, he had "marks" on his neck the week prior. This was reported by the media last week with emphasis on the likelihood that he had been attacked by another inmate. This in fact is what Epstein told his jailers. And it's plausible because this is how this kind of offender is often treated by the general prison population. So they didn't know for sure if there had been a prior attempt and we still do not know.
A suicide watch involves 24 hour a day eyes on from another human being. This cannot be sustained forever. Is one week sufficient when you're unsure if there really had been a prior attempt? I don't know. I assume there are written policies applicable to this situation. The prison staff would only be negligent for failing to follow the policy.
Exactly!! We would have finally found out the truth about extra terrestrials......the truth can hurt!! But what i want to know is why they just didn`t beam Epstein out of his cell directly to the mother ship???Both men along with many other powerful men have a very strong motive for wanting Epstein dead before trial. I’m not saying either one are guilty, but just pointing out both have a motive in this. I think any reasonable person can accept that it being a suicide is very very suspect.
It's been widely reported that he was having serious trouble adjusting to imprisonment.
He's also arguably the highest profile prisoner in the country right now, with intimate connections to two presidents, in addition to a large network of the world's elite and facing charges that could ruin even the most powerful. Documents were just being made public that could ensnare extremely important people.
Even provide that the previous threat on his life was from another hand, the red flags were waving.
How do you not recognize the importance of his safety and do whatever is necessary to ensure it?
It's incompetence of the highest order. This will live on as a conspiracy for decades and decades.