Jeremy Clarkson deserve reinstatement?

nyker96

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"Clarkson was suspended for allegedly hitting a producer, the BBC reported last week, and "Top Gear" -- a highly popular show with a big global audience -- was not broadcast as scheduled Sunday. "

"A supporter of suspended "Top Gear" host Jeremy Clarkson delivered a petition with nearly 1 million signatures calling for his reinstatement to the BBC's headquarters in London on Friday"

CNN story:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/20/world/uk-bbc-jeremy-clarkson/index.html

should he or shouldn't he be reinstated? what's your opion?
 

DigDog

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getting hit in the face is basically 50% of a producer's job.

the above statement is approximately 50% accurate.

do the math.
 

VtPC83

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Doesn't seem to be sending a good message to the public though does it? He hit someone, which he shouldn't ever do (except in self-defense), but everyone feels he should be re-instated? Perhaps a punishment is in order here so he at least thinks about doing it again...
 

Phokus

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If he did in fact punch his producer in the face, he deserves to get fired. Any other normal person would face the same consequence. Just because he's famous doesn't mean he should be exempt.
 

smackababy

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Under what circumstances did the punch happen? And, how much damage was done. I am talking about real, broken nose damage, not some sissy "I was embarrassed and my feelings were hurt" garbage.

And, with all that in consideration, exactly how much damage would it do to the BBC to lose Clarkson to a rival network? Because, that is exactly what is going to happen.
 

Kadarin

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And, with all that in consideration, exactly how much damage would it do to the BBC to lose Clarkson to a rival network? Because, that is exactly what is going to happen.

Yep, that calculation is going on now in the minds of those who run the BBC. The "right" thing to do would be to fire Clarkson, but losing him (and likely Hammond and May as well) to another network would be really painful.
 

MongGrel

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Yeah, a lot of people here were signing the petition at the time....

Thought is was more like a minor slap, got me.

HBO, or someone would probably buy up the whole crew.
 
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Fern

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should he or shouldn't he be reinstated? what's your opion?

My prediction is that he'll be back.

He's the #1 money maker for the BBC.

I've read just suspending him for 3 shows (or whatever) is going to potentially cost the BBC million. The BBC sells Top Gear to stations etc all over the world. They've already been paid for the unfinished shows and will likely have to pay it back.
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IMO, the punishment should be up to the cops and court, even civil court. Businesses can do what they want (within limits), but IMO they've gotten themselves way too damn involved in trying to act like a parallel judicial system.

Otherwise, it's hard to comment on since I haven't heard what actually happened. What started it? Maybe the producer deserved a punch in the face.

Right now If I were in charge of the BBC and given the paucity of info I'd be leaning toward reinstating him. Heck, I wouldn't have suspended yet in the first place. I'd want an investigation concluded before I took such a step. These days people are punished upon mere allegation. They aren't getting their due process.

Fern
 
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The BBC is odd; it's public television, yet it's far and away the largest broadcasting company in the UK. It's like if PBS owned CBS AND ABC. Where is Clarkson going to go? ITV? Sky? Channel 4? Granted, he brings a lot of viewers with him, but those companies don't have the international reach of the BBC, to say nothing of viewership within the UK. I just don't see him jumping to another network so much as giving up the show for a bit.
 

cubby1223

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Yep, that calculation is going on now in the minds of those who run the BBC. The "right" thing to do would be to fire Clarkson, but losing him (and likely Hammond and May as well) to another network would be really painful.

Doesn't even matter is it's to a rival station. Losing them period costs the BBC I think it was said around 150million pounds annually. That's a helluva lot of money that they no longer will have at their disposal.
 
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Fern

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The BBC is odd; it's public television, yet it's far and away the largest broadcasting company in the UK. It's like if PBS owned CBS AND ABC. Where is Clarkson going to go? ITV? Sky? Channel 4? Granted, he brings a lot of viewers with him, but those companies don't have the international reach of the BBC, to say nothing of viewership within the UK. I just don't see him jumping to another network so much as giving up the show for a bit.

People in the business talk about him jumping.

I'm not quite sure how you think it works, but I'm pretty sure Clarkson isn't actually an employee of the BBC.

I'd guess he works for a production company and that the BBC has just purchased all the rights to the show. So, he goes to work for another production company (likely one he owns, if he doesn't already, since he seems quite wealthy now). They use a new title and he's back on the air.

There are other big TV channels in the UK. And international rights can just be sold as the BBC now does.

Fern
 

DigDog

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Doesn't seem to be sending a good message to the public though does it? He hit someone, which he shouldn't ever do (except in self-defense), but everyone feels he should be re-instated? Perhaps a punishment is in order here so he at least thinks about doing it again...
we grownups solve our problems that way. you will too once you grow hair.
 

RampantAndroid

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People in the business talk about him jumping.

I'm not quite sure how you think it works, but I'm pretty sure Clarkson isn't actually an employee of the BBC.

I'd guess he works for a production company and that the BBC has just purchased all the rights to the show. So, he goes to work for another production company (likely one he owns, if he doesn't already, since he seems quite wealthy now). They use a new title and he's back on the air.

There are other big TV channels in the UK. And international rights can just be sold as the BBC now does.

Fern

He is not a employee of the BBC, he just has a contract that's up anyway. He'll be on ITV for some new car show and the BBC will lose millions....
 

RampantAndroid

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The Telegraph is reporting Clarkson will be fired. Top Gear looks to effectively be over. Bummer. You can't go around assaulting people, obviously, but I am going to miss the show.

They'll try to keep it around, I suspect. The BBC is all about keeping old shows around. Top gear is Doctor Who for motorheads, basically.

Clarkson will sue, cost the BBC a bunch of money, and wander off to ITV or something.

Edit: Report claims it was 20 minutes of verbal abuse, then 30 seconds of physical abuse. As much as I like Clarkson's presenting, he has to go.
 
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Subyman

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No, he doesn't cosmically "deserve" it. But yes, I love the show and its BBC's most popular thing (may be Doctor Who has more viewers?). So bring him back!!!
 

Sulaco

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They'll try to keep it around, I suspect. The BBC is all about keeping old shows around. Top gear is Doctor Who for motorheads, basically.

Clarkson will sue, cost the BBC a bunch of money, and wander off to ITV or something.

Edit: Report claims it was 20 minutes of verbal abuse, then 30 seconds of physical abuse. As much as I like Clarkson's presenting, he has to go.

What exactly is he going to sue for? I'm pretty sure "physically assaulting management" is a terminable offense in pretty much any employment contract. Not even taking into account he was already on his well-publicized and self-admitted "last warning" from the BBC for other infractions and "racial slur" hullabaloo from who knows how long ago.


Lets' face it: People are defending him because he's funny, likeable, and hosts one of the most popular television shows on Earth. That's what this comes down to.
Had this been someone more "universally reviled" in the exact same circumstance (say Piers Morgan, or a Kardashian punching a producer), people would be completely indifferent or outright calling for their head. Hell, they'd be calling for charges to be filed.
 

yllus

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I'll miss the gorgeous visuals and spectacle that Top Gear provided, but I just can't stomach keeping someone on after they physically assault a coworker. If they fire him, the BBC is doing the right thing.
 

Vic

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Meh. I've always been a fan of Top Gear but I'm thinking that the show may have run its course.
 

RampantAndroid

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What exactly is he going to sue for? I'm pretty sure "physically assaulting management" is a terminable offense in pretty much any employment contract. Not even taking into account he was already on his well-publicized and self-admitted "last warning" from the BBC for other infractions and "racial slur" hullabaloo from who knows how long ago.


Lets' face it: People are defending him because he's funny, likeable, and hosts one of the most popular television shows on Earth. That's what this comes down to.
Had this been someone more "universally reviled" in the exact same circumstance (say Piers Morgan, or a Kardashian punching a producer), people would be completely indifferent or outright calling for their head. Hell, they'd be calling for charges to be filed.

There was news suggesting he'd sue. My guess is for wrongful termination of contract....
 
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