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Pohemi

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in general, it's nearly as common as clam shells on those shores, but chunks like that are way way rarer than a diamond. I think they are only found at the deposits, or only after some rare, particularly severe storms that can knock a few of them up onto those shores.

EDIT: Holy shit! not only does it have that flawless impression, but he's actually showing you the dessicated carcass of the buggo knocking around the actual impression that it made. Shit that is fucking awesome. I didn't notice that at first!
To my untrained eye, it looked like the giant termite('s body) was still mostly intact and the little spot rattling around inside of it was it's last meal. I could of course be wrong. If there was air trapped inside (even in the termite's body), that's what would deteriorate the body, right?
 

zinfamous

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Yeah, don't know that I agree. What is an "expert" anyway? What determines who gets classed as such? It's largely a social and political category, a status that is very often awarded as a consequence of social, political, and economic factors, so it usually _is_ indoctrination and elitism. Information and education is something that gets distributed on the basis of power and wealth.

How about the "experts" who signed off on inflammable cladding on buildings?

Or the ones who labelled junk mortgages as 'triple-A' rated?

Or the ones who declared in court that the Post Office's Horizon cash system was infallible?

The ones who declared that Iraq had WMDs?

Or the ones who downplayed masks and emphasised hand-washing at the start of the pandemic?

The list goes on...

so you're saying that pcgeek's "opinions" about diseases and vaccines are as relevant as that of a doctorate in immunology? lol

seriously: we know who the experts are and we value their opinions over those of the average mud-swilling idiot because we have long, long-established systems of creating our experts that work extremely well.

But yeah, next time a space craft blows up, I'll try to tell myself that pcgeek's comments about the incident are just as important as Paratus's
 
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Lifer
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so you're saying that pcgeek's "opinions" about diseases and vaccines are as relevant as that of a doctorate in immunology? lol

seriously: we know who the experts are and we value their opinions over those of the average mud-swilling idiot because we have long, long-established systems of creating our experts that work extremely well.

But yeah, next time a space craft blows up, I'll try to tell myself that pcgeek's comments about the incident are just as important as Paratus's

So you're saying the great mass of ordinary people (including myself) who knew full well Saddam posed no threat to the West and probably didn't have WMDs were rightly ignored in favour of the "expert" commentators and '"analysts" in the media who claimed otherwise?

Or the 'experts' who signed off on putting inflammable cladding on high-rise buildings, or those who claimed the Post Office's IT systems were flawless are a font of all wisdom?

Your "long-established systems" fail pretty regularly.
 

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Lifer
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so you're saying that pcgeek's "opinions" about diseases and vaccines are as relevant as that of a doctorate in immunology? lol

seriously: we know who the experts are and we value their opinions over those of the average mud-swilling idiot because we have long, long-established systems of creating our experts that work extremely well.

But yeah, next time a space craft blows up, I'll try to tell myself that pcgeek's comments about the incident are just as important as Paratus's


I mean, it's not helped by the way that academia in the US puts its credibility up for sale to the highest bidder, accepting donations from the likes of the Koch brothers, lending their institution's names to ideologically-driven "think tanks" in return for cash.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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So you're saying the great mass of ordinary people (including myself) who knew full well Saddam posed no threat to the West and probably didn't have WMDs were rightly ignored in favour of the "expert" commentators and '"analysts" in the media who claimed otherwise?

Or the 'experts' who signed off on putting inflammable cladding on high-rise buildings, or those who claimed the Post Office's IT systems were flawless are a font of all wisdom?

Your "long-established systems" fail pretty regularly.
You know there's a difference between an expert and a liar right?
 

zinfamous

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So you're saying the great mass of ordinary people (including myself) who knew full well Saddam posed no threat to the West and probably didn't have WMDs were rightly ignored in favour of the "expert" commentators and '"analysts" in the media who claimed otherwise?

Or the 'experts' who signed off on putting inflammable cladding on high-rise buildings, or those who claimed the Post Office's IT systems were flawless are a font of all wisdom?

Your "long-established systems" fail pretty regularly.

I understand this criticism, and it is valid--but these were "experts" that were never part of the well-established system of "experting" People like Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld were "Smart people" that gained status through favoritism; not any kind of actual, published work or real life accomplishments.

I think your criticism is better directed at the immoral sociopaths that subvert the system and let favoritism and political power supersede the standard and replace, in the minds of the drooling rabble what "Expert" actually means.

Essentially, these people were never actually experts and would never be accepted as such by the peers in the field that they claim to be a part of. this is the real problem, and addresses the general criticism that a very specific and obvious group of people/political party has been actively engaged in decades of subverting the value of actual experts and their value in society, to replace it with this notion of "What we call experts, because we say so."

That's the problem
 
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Lifer
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You know there's a difference between an expert and a liar right?

But experts have a tendency to lie (including often, to themselves, i.e. they aren't doing so conciously), because, as they constitute a class, they have a specific set of class-interests, that they tend to give priority to.

I mean, that's regularly openly acknowledged with respect to certain professions, such as the police or the priesthood, but for some reason it gets ignored when talking about other groups who also have power and status.

I don't know, I can't say I have a fully-worked out "theory of the professions", I just have to say I've had many experiences with professional credentialed people, who again-and-again turned out to not be nearly as "expert" as they thought they were. They seem to have a tendency to neglect those "unknown unknowns" that Rumsfeldt made famous.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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But experts have a tendency to lie (including often, to themselves, i.e. they aren't doing so conciously), because, as they constitute a class, they have a specific set of class-interests, that they tend to give priority to.
Citation please. Remember to provide proof that this exists amongst all experts. Spoiler: most people are experts in something, so you need to provide proof most people lie about the thing they're experts in to give priority to their class-interests.

Do make sure your venn diagram doesn't just completely overlap 'political experts' as well. If you want to spin this and say 'I actually meant political 'experts' lie often' I won't blame you, and I will agree with you.
 

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Lifer
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Citation please. Remember to provide proof that this exists amongst all experts. Spoiler: most people are experts in something, so you need to provide proof most people lie about the thing they're experts in to give priority to their class-interests.

Do make sure your venn diagram doesn't just completely overlap 'political experts' as well. If you want to spin this and say 'I actually meant political 'experts' lie often' I won't blame you, and I will agree with you.

In general there's a prevailing culture in our society that says the professional class (generally middle class people who went to "good" schools and have high-status accents and various forms of legal power) are omniscient, whereas ordinary people are thickos, and hence any problems the latter have must be their own fault for being stupid and ignorant and thinking the wrong thoughts. Never can the fault lie with wider society, still less can it be the elites themselves who are part of the problem.

For example, the assumption was that the sub-post-office managers must have been thieves, rather than believing their claim that the Post Office's IT system, the product of the technocrat 'experts' employed by Fujitsu, was faulty. I mean, the sub-post-office managers weren't IT 'experts' so why should anyone believe them?

Likewise, only 'experts' would think that putting inflammable cladding on high-rise buildings was a sensible idea. Normal people would tell you doing that was crazy, but that's the ignorant masses for you, eh?

It's questionable that 'most people are experts in something'. 'Experts' tend to have credentials and power to go with it. If they have no power or authority then they aren't part of the 'expert' class, are they?
 

Charmonium

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Oats aren't just for the ponies. Oat fiber interferes with the enterohepatic circulation. That's how lipids get recycled back to the liver via the bloodstream.

So if you have high LDL blood lipids, take your statin but consume as much oat fiber as you can tolerate. It will slurp up all of those lipids before they can be recycled and keep at least a decent chunk of them out of your blood.

You're welcome. I'll send you all my bill.
 
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kage69

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Steel cut, preferably. I'll top it with a splash of real sugar bush, or maybe some chopped up dates and nuts.

Trying to remember the story right, but I believe it was some 19th century Englishman of note who talked shit about oats in an editorial, maybe the Times idk. Dismissed them as junk, only good for horse fodder.

A Scottish writer replied in kind, disagreeing with him on oats being junk, went on to state they were part of the reason Scotland has such nice people while England has such nice horses.

*womp womp in bagpipe*

 

Charmonium

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Haha. The reasons the Scots were so happy is because any dietary fiber, if you eat enough, will make you shit like a farm animal.
 
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