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[DHT]Osiris

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wankpanzer, heh
Counterpoint, there's probably twice as much weight in the bed of that truck vs that bicycle which may not technically exceed the haul weight of the thing (it looks quite stout) but I cannot imagine actually cycling with it. In addition, the truck is traveling probably 10x as far for the delivery. The bike may be 'carbon free', but cheeerist I wouldn't want to bike the 15 miles and 1k' elevation difference on what looks to be a ~80lb bicycle with a ~300lb load of wet dirt.

Besides, who's more impractical, the guy with the 80k electric truck he can actually use as a truck for distance deliveries, or the guy who buys a specialized bicycle (price?) so everyone knows how much of a complete judgmental douchenozzle he is.
 

lxskllr

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Counterpoint, there's probably twice as much weight in the bed of that truck vs that bicycle which may not technically exceed the haul weight of the thing (it looks quite stout) but I cannot imagine actually cycling with it. In addition, the truck is traveling probably 10x as far for the delivery. The bike may be 'carbon free', but cheeerist I wouldn't want to bike the 15 miles and 1k' elevation difference on what looks to be a ~80lb bicycle with a ~300lb load of wet dirt.

Besides, who's more impractical, the guy with the 80k electric truck he can actually use as a truck for distance deliveries, or the guy who buys a specialized bicycle (price?) so everyone knows how much of a complete judgmental douchenozzle he is.
I'm more irritated by 8 bags of homedepot topsoil being called "real work". If you didn't want to use a bike, that would easily fit in a Corolla, or even one of those dumb Smart Cars.

This is from a guy I follow on mastodon. He's a German arborist into biking everywhere...

 
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I'm more irritated by 8 bags of homedepot topsoil being called "real work". If you didn't want to use a bike, that would easily fit in a Corolla, or even one of those dumb Smart Cars.

This is from a guy I follow on mastodon. He's a German arborist into biking everywhere...

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Is that guy's name Charlie and does he only take High Table gold coins for payment?
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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I'm more irritated by 8 bags of homedepot topsoil being called "real work". If you didn't want to use a bike, that would easily fit in a Corolla, or even one of those dumb Smart Cars.

This is from a guy I follow on mastodon. He's a German arborist into biking everywhere...

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Sure, they could have been loaded in a corolla, but he has a tesla truck. Would it make it better if he had a tesla truck garage queening and picked up his topsoil in a 20k beater? At least he's actually using it for what is ostensibly it's purpose: hauling something.


Half the shit I've hauled in my tundra I could probably fit into my camaro but why, I have a truck.
 

pmv

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Sure, they could have been loaded in a corolla, but he has a tesla truck. Would it make it better if he had a tesla truck garage queening and picked up his topsoil in a 20k beater? At least he's actually using it for what is ostensibly it's purpose: hauling something.


Half the shit I've hauled in my tundra I could probably fit into my camaro but why, I have a truck.

It's the weird bragging about "real work" and "big loads" that seems misplaced. Do you really need a super-expensive truck for a few bags of dirt? I suspect they are hauling around far more weight in the form of the truck itself (and its battery) than the cargo.

You can carry a _lot_ of stuff with a cargo bike. Hell, I remember regularly _walking_ back from the garden centre with a bag of compost the size of one of those in the rucksack.

My elderly parent used to wheel nearly as much as that back from the shops in their Panzer-like shopping trolley (usually tins of cat-food when they were on sale). You could see the path they took back from the shops from the trail of broken paving stones.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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It's the weird bragging about "real work" and "big loads" that seems misplaced. Do you really need a super-expensive truck for a few bags of dirt? I suspect they are hauling around far more weight in the form of the truck itself (and its battery) than the cargo.

You can carry a _lot_ of stuff with a cargo bike. Hell, I remember regularly _walking_ back from the garden centre with a bag of compost the size of one of those in the rucksack.

My elderly parent used to wheel nearly as much as that back from the shops in their Panzer-like shopping trolley (usually tins of cat-food when they were on sale). You could see the path they took back from the shops from the trail of broken paving stones.
Sure, it's a weird flex from the Tesla driver, but it feels even weirder from the bike cart. Like that dumb tesla driver is probably hauling the first thing heavier than a human in their entire life, and some shithead that bought a special bike for hauling things is going to flex on them? Like whut? Should literally anyone with an actual pickup just rain bullshit all over that bike person for all the usefulness a normal beat up pickup can provide over a bike? Wouldn't that be just as idiotic?
 

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Sure, it's a weird flex from the Tesla driver, but it feels even weirder from the bike cart. Like that dumb tesla driver is probably hauling the first thing heavier than a human in their entire life, and some shithead that bought a special bike for hauling things is going to flex on them? Like whut? Should literally anyone with an actual pickup just rain bullshit all over that bike person for all the usefulness a normal beat up pickup can provide over a bike? Wouldn't that be just as idiotic?

Well the bike comment is making a legit political point - that a _lot_ of stuff can be delivered with a cargo bike, thus greatly reducing urban pollution and CO2 emissions. True, I guess a Tesla isn't producing local pollution the way a diesel truck would, which is a positive, but it's still a very inefficient way to haul small loads, given how much of the power is being consumed just moving the weight of the truck itself.

In general people drive too much, and the mass and size of the vehicles they use is wildly disproportionate to what they carry in them. I suspect that 90% of the fuel use of most cars/trucks is expended on moving the mass of the vehicle itself.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Well the bike comment is making a legit political point - that a _lot_ of stuff can be delivered with a cargo bike, thus greatly reducing urban pollution and CO2 emissions. True, I guess a Tesla isn't producing local pollution the way a diesel truck would, which is a positive, but it's still a very inefficient way to haul small loads, given how much of the power is being consumed just moving the weight of the truck itself.

In general people drive too much, and the mass and size of the vehicles they use is wildly disproportionate to what they carry in them. I suspect that 90% of the fuel use of most cars/trucks is expended on moving the mass of the vehicle itself.
Sure, but again, it's what they have. The average American is not going to buy a cargo bike to get to/from work, isn't likely to buy a cargo bike for so specialized a job as hauling moderately sized objects with a flat surface along flat roads, and probably isn't in shape enough to utilize a cargo bike without a few years of working out anyhow, so they will need another vehicle. They may however use a tesla for more than just hauling objects, can haul objects much further than most humans could with a cargo bicycle, and it can also actually haul a second (or third, fourth, fifth) person as well. Sure, an argument could be made for every human buying an electric smartcar, buying a cargo bike, and living no further than one mile from any location they would need to haul <500lb of flat objects, but that isn't reality. And here in reality I'd prefer everyone have a stupid cybertruck that only carries some bags of sod occasionally than I would have them buy a f350 super duty to carry their dumbass spawn around.
 
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