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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Tell him you only take cash?

.460 Weatherby Mag?

I'm listening. Spooking them with loud sounds and walking right at them doesn't always work I'm told, though it does often I guess. Is there something else? Indian villages use ghost pepper decorated fencing to control elephants, and it works great, so technically a pepper spray should work too.
You take away it's credit card.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Idk man, they're pretty big. Gonna be some irritation when you decline that First Bank of Nairobi swipe. I think a hot sauce cannon under the counter still might be a good idea. Go for the schnoz.
 
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Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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Idk man, they're pretty big


You know it ... even a large bear or an entire pride of lions would be extremely unlikely to mess with a pissed off bull-elephant especially BUT even a small/average-size female forest-elephant can weigh 3500-4000 lbs.

A large African bull can weigh 14-20k and the heaviest ever weighed was nearly 24k lbs.

 
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MtnMan

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Jul 27, 2004
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Black bears are losing their shyness, attacks and even fatalities in the States have gone up over time. 25 people killed since 2000 I think it is.

It's true about the size part though. The one that got my dad in 91 was roughly 50 lbs smaller than he was. Probably about the same size as bear in that video. No cubs involved, just the bear bait he was tending. He did surprise it, was a windy day and bear probably didn't hear his approach. No retreat, no fake charge, just straight to work. He got plenty of claw wounds, but it was the teeth coming at his face and throat he was more worried about. He did a Peterson and used his hand to gag the bear (which didn't work out great for his hand), allowed him a chance to flip over on his stomach and play dead. I will never forget the image of my dad walking into the house asking for a ride to the hospital, his clothes all torn up and him covered in peanut butter and his own blood. Warden said it's possible that was the bear's first encounter with peanut butter, and saw my dad as another bear trying to muscle in on it.

Moral: take a jar of peanut butter with you when hiking, throw it into bushes as diversion if charged
Black bears are becoming bolder in general. Locally they have been breaking into homes, presumably because they can smell food. They have learned to open car doors. Neighbor watched a mama bear teach a cub to open a car door. One opened the door on my grandson's pickup and checked out the inside. Only damage was some muddy paw prints. Tried to get into my daughters SUV, which was locked, but left muddy paw print on door handle.

State wildlife has been trapping and putting GPS collars on local bears. Biggest was almost 600 pounds. Year old cubs are 120+ pounds, where a health yearling in the wild will be about 65 pounds. Good eating in big green trash cans, and they seem to have learned which day is trash day.
 
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zinfamous

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Black bears are losing their shyness, attacks and even fatalities in the States have gone up over time. 25 people killed since 2000 I think it is.

It's true about the size part though. The one that got my dad in 91 was roughly 50 lbs smaller than he was. Probably about the same size as bear in that video. No cubs involved, just the bear bait he was tending. He did surprise it, was a windy day and bear probably didn't hear his approach. No retreat, no fake charge, just straight to work. He got plenty of claw wounds, but it was the teeth coming at his face and throat he was more worried about. He did a Peterson and used his hand to gag the bear (which didn't work out great for his hand), allowed him a chance to flip over on his stomach and play dead. I will never forget the image of my dad walking into the house asking for a ride to the hospital, his clothes all torn up and him covered in peanut butter and his own blood. Warden said it's possible that was the bear's first encounter with peanut butter, and saw my dad as another bear trying to muscle in on it.

Moral: take a jar of peanut butter with you when hiking, throw it into bushes as diversion if charged

holy shit wut!?
 
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