Jetta better than WRX

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: bUnMaNGo
your friend is on crack j/k... I think it's all up to personal preference. I'd take the WRX over any other car in the < $25k category. Its looks are actually kinda growing on me

Screw that...for $26,700 I'd get a "base" 350Z which is basically loaded anyway. The 350Z ownz that ugly little biatch WRX

Try driving that 350Z in the winter and they'll be pulling you out of a ditch. Anyway, as a WRX owner for about 9 months now, I can honestly it's a very high quality, mundo cool car. It's a head turner (not very common, and that air scoop really gets people looking at you), it's FAST, and you really get a lot for your money.

Oh yeah, Jettas are also GHEY:
Voted #1!!!

If you can't drive a rear drive vehicle in the snow, then you don't need to be driving. I have NO problems driving a huge ass RWD Ford F-150 or even a Ford Explorer XLT in the snow (our last Explorer was a RWD model). And I'm not talking about NC snow, I'm talking about mounds of snow up in Baltimore that I have waded through.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
wrx is by far the performance leader, and isn't far behind on the build qualty. and subaru was making reliable cars back when the jetta was the POS known as the rabbit

The Jetta was never known as the Rabbit. And the rabbits were quite good, actually...

Comparing a Jetta and a WRX is not even funny. The flat 4 engine is used by only two auto manufacturers in the world. Porsche and Subaru (even though Porsche is owned by VW). With a wrap like that you know they mean business. What beats me is that VW has yet to use the flat engine configuration on any of their cars.

Ok, ummm... Are you trying to say that the WRX is good simply because they use the same style of engines as Porsche? I don't see the correlation. In fact, I don't see how you can argue anything simply because of the style of engine. Why should VW use a horizontally opposed design in any of their cars? What possible reason would there be for doing that?

If you want to play this stupid game anyway, I could say that nobody else uses a narrow angle V6 engine, other than VW. And it is beyond me why no other car company has employed this design. I guess the other companies just "don't mean business."

 

[Ultima]

What kind of a stupid comparison is that? THey're not even in the same class.
The Jetta is more luxurious and the WRX could run circles around a Jetta. They're not the same kind of car.

 

[Ultima]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: bUnMaNGo
your friend is on crack j/k... I think it's all up to personal preference. I'd take the WRX over any other car in the < $25k category. Its looks are actually kinda growing on me

Screw that...for $26,700 I'd get a "base" 350Z which is basically loaded anyway. The 350Z ownz that ugly little biatch WRX

350Z is fugly and not AWD
bah.. the choices really suck these days. I'd rather get a used Talon/Eclipse if I was going for that kind of car.

 

[Ultima]

Originally posted by: jaybert
Umm....the new jetta gli's have 201hp (6speed manual) with the vr6 engine option and the 1.8T engine puts out 180hp stock. Chip the 1.8T engine and you're looking at 210hp, 250 ft/lb torque, to the wheels.

Oh yeah, theres also the little thing that the WRX does not have 265 horses, rather 227. So I guess your arguement really maes no sense at all

Originally posted by: B00ne
How can u even compare the WRX to the jettta
For one the wrx has 265 hp roughly 50% more than the fastest jetta, and then there is the sticker price of $35000 i guess ud have a hard time getting a jetta up to 35000.... (although its possible)

Who cares? It's still FWD. If all I cared about was performance I'd get a damn Camaro and blow your WRX and Jetta away. You'd be staring at my taillights. However that's not all I care about. Jetta is more luxury than sport, and anyone who thinks they're getting a fast car when they buy a Jetta is a dumbass. The WRX is all about sport, and not luxury. They're two different cars.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: ElFenix
wrx is by far the performance leader, and isn't far behind on the build qualty. and subaru was making reliable cars back when the jetta was the POS known as the rabbit

The Jetta was never known as the Rabbit. And the rabbits were quite good, actually...

yes, they've gone through 4 chassis changes since the jetta replaced the rabbit.

 

[Ultima]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus01
WRX = fugly. Thats the only thing keeping me from getting one. Those things are SO damn ugly. Plus they are a bit stripped down on the inside. You can't even get leather!!! Theres a reason my wife got a Maxima SE

My best friends wife has a VR6 Jetta and it's NICE. Black on black leather and it drives great.

<Try driving that 350Z in the winter and they'll be pulling you out of a ditch.> Why is that said everytime the WRX is brought up. Apparently you're an idiot who can't drive in snow. I've driven Mustang GT Shinomi Boss's & Ford Lightning's in the snow and never wrecked. It's not the car that causes the accident, it's the idiot who can't drive in the snow. Plus it only snows here 2-3 times a year. Thats a rediculous argument. I stay home during those days

I'd take a 350X or G35 over both those cars. But if i had to choose either, definately the Jetta, much nicer interior.

So someone's an idiot cause their car doesn't handle good in snow? Heh.. I live in Canada and I'd never buy a Mustang, Firebird or Camaro cause their handling is crap especially in snow. If I was going RWD I'd go with a Bimmer or similar setup but those cars are so damn expensive AWD is where its at.

 

[Ultima]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: bUnMaNGo
your friend is on crack j/k... I think it's all up to personal preference. I'd take the WRX over any other car in the < $25k category. Its looks are actually kinda growing on me

Screw that...for $26,700 I'd get a "base" 350Z which is basically loaded anyway. The 350Z ownz that ugly little biatch WRX

Try driving that 350Z in the winter and they'll be pulling you out of a ditch. Anyway, as a WRX owner for about 9 months now, I can honestly it's a very high quality, mundo cool car. It's a head turner (not very common, and that air scoop really gets people looking at you), it's FAST, and you really get a lot for your money.

Oh yeah, Jettas are also GHEY:
Voted #1!!!

If you can't drive a rear drive vehicle in the snow, then you don't need to be driving. I have NO problems driving a huge ass RWD Ford F-150 or even a Ford Explorer XLT in the snow (our last Explorer was a RWD model). And I'm not talking about NC snow, I'm talking about mounds of snow up in Baltimore that I have waded through.

If you can't drive a stick then you don't need to be driving. That's a stupid comparison. It all depends on the car, too. I'd laugh if the Explorer couldn't handle snow, and the F-150 isn't bad either. Did you need sand bags? The kind of cars you shouldn't be driving in snow are the performance cars like 350Z, Camaro, Porsche, whatever. Many of these cars were built to be summer cars only and driving them in snow is dumb. If you can handle it, fine, but I guarantee it's gonna be stressful and a b!tch

 

[McPhreak]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus01
WRX = fugly. Thats the only thing keeping me from getting one. Those things are SO damn ugly. Plus they are a bit stripped down on the inside. You can't even get leather!!!

You can get leather in a WRX from the dealer. It just costs a little extra as do most other upgrades (I think it was about $1500)

 

[Stark]

the 2.0 engine in the jetta sucks. I drove one last week.
The 1.8T is sweet. I'd still take a passat (made in Germany) over the Jetta (made in Mexico) any day.

Never driven a WRX, so can't comment. But I don't really want to drive a WRX if that means anything.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: ElFenix
wrx is by far the performance leader, and isn't far behind on the build qualty. and subaru was making reliable cars back when the jetta was the POS known as the rabbit

The Jetta was never known as the Rabbit. And the rabbits were quite good, actually...

yes, they've gone through 4 chassis changes since the jetta replaced the rabbit.

The A1 Jetta first came out in 1980. The Rabbit ran from 1978 until 1988, when they shut the American Rabbit plant down. (which is incidentally about 30 minutes from my house I remember when they shut it down, now they make Sony picture tubes there) In 1985 they introduced the A2 model line, and changed the name from Rabbit to Golf.

So Golf replaced the Rabbit, and it was 2 model changes ago.

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: Stark
the 2.0 engine in the jetta sucks. I drove one last week.
The 1.8T is sweet. I'd still take a passat (made in Germany) over the Jetta (made in Mexico) any day.

If I were to consider a VW, they would need to put the 1.8T in the 5 door Golf. I'm not buying any 2-valve engine (the 2.0), and the GTI is missing a couple of doors. So VW currently has nothing for me in the Unites States.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: ElFenix
wrx is by far the performance leader, and isn't far behind on the build qualty. and subaru was making reliable cars back when the jetta was the POS known as the rabbit

I think the Rabbit and Jetta were always different (although similar) cars, like the Golf and Jetta today.
I don't recall the Rabbit having serious problems

FYI, my friend's rabbit had to get a running start to get up my driveway.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: ElFenix
wrx is by far the performance leader, and isn't far behind on the build qualty. and subaru was making reliable cars back when the jetta was the POS known as the rabbit

The Jetta was never known as the Rabbit. And the rabbits were quite good, actually...

yes, they've gone through 4 chassis changes since the jetta replaced the rabbit.

The A1 Jetta first came out in 1980. The Rabbit ran from 1978 until 1988, when they shut the American Rabbit plant down. (which is incidentally about 30 minutes from my house I remember when they shut it down, now they make Sony picture tubes there) In 1985 they introduced the A2 model line, and changed the name from Rabbit to Golf.

So Golf replaced the Rabbit, and it was 2 model changes ago.

well maybe thats it then. golf and jetta are darn near the same car anyway.

 

[MooseKnuckle]

I'd get the Jetta too and I like the Jetta wagon TDI a lot. It gets almost 50mpg !!! That really turns me on, and German engineering and quality control blows away Japanese. The WRX has character and is supposed to be a lot of fun to drive, but I like VWs.

Too bad the Jetta is made in Mexico. QC is s@ck. Buy a Jetta and a box of window regulators, you'll need'em often.

 

[flood]

Originally posted by: Stifko
I'd get the Jetta too and I like the Jetta wagon TDI a lot. It gets almost 50mpg !!! That really turns me on, and German engineering and quality control blows away Japanese. The WRX has character and is supposed to be a lot of fun to drive, but I like VWs.

I agree completely, altho I'd opt for the vr6.

 

[LikeLinus]

<<You can get leather in a WRX from the dealer. It just costs a little extra as do most other upgrades (I think it was about $1500)>>

Are you sure? I've NEVER seen a WRX with leather and i thought i remember a thread here that said you couldn't even get leather on the car? I could be wrong but thats just what i recall offhand


<< So someone's an idiot cause their car doesn't handle good in snow?>> Thats not what i said. I said you're an idiot if you can't drive a RWD car in the snow It's all in driving safe. Ice is Ice. You're going to slide just as easy in a FWD car as you will a RWD car. If you drive wrecklessly in the snow you'll wreck. Buying a car JUST cause it handles in the car is silly. It might be different for you cause you live in the snow a good bit of the year, but down here it only snows a few days during the year. I definately would never buy a car for its winter weather driving ability. Hell i've got a 2000 F-150 5.4L V8 extended cab right now! hehe, not exactly something that handles "Good" in the snow. But i've had no problem driving in the snow with it.

 

[Bullhonkie]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus01
Are you sure? I've NEVER seen a WRX with leather and i thought i remember a thread here that said you couldn't even get leather on the car? I could be wrong but thats just what i recall offhand

Yup, you can get them with leather seats, and even sunroofs. They aren't options from the factory though, it's up to the dealer. Last time I went to look at WRXs, we saw a silver sedan with leather seats and sunroof on the lot. Too bad it was an automatic. It looked very nice though, the leather seats had a two-tone look with contrast stitching and an embroidered logo on the headrest.

Originally posted by: jaybert
Umm....the new jetta gli's have 201hp (6speed manual) with the vr6 engine option and the 1.8T engine puts out 180hp stock. Chip the 1.8T engine and you're looking at 210hp, 250 ft/lb torque, to the wheels.

Well if one wants to talk about aftermarket, then it becomes a whole new ballgame. You can just as easily 'chip' the WRX (either a replacement or piggyback ECU) and realize a safe and easy gain of 30-40 whp.

 

[CocaCola5]

The 03' NA Jetta Wagon are assembled in WOLFSBURG Germany NOT Mexico(not sure about the sedan though or the 02'), just a note not that it matters a whole bunch.

 

[McPhreak]

Originally posted by: Bullhonkie

Originally posted by: LikeLinus01
Are you sure? I've NEVER seen a WRX with leather and i thought i remember a thread here that said you couldn't even get leather on the car? I could be wrong but thats just what i recall offhand

Yup, you can get them with leather seats, and even sunroofs. They aren't options from the factory though, it's up to the dealer. Last time I went to look at WRXs, we saw a silver sedan with leather seats and sunroof on the lot. Too bad it was an automatic. It looked very nice though, the leather seats had a two-tone look with contrast stitching and an embroidered logo on the headrest.

That's what my cousin said to me as well. He said there was a car in the showroom that had two-tone black and silver leather seats. I think it was black leather with a silver stripe which runs down the middle of the seat. Said it looks pretty nice. I've never seen leather in a WRX before either, but my cousin's got a brand new one with leather seats from the dealer, so I guess it is true.

 

[Triumph]

I'd never trust a dealer to hacksaw a sunroof into my car. Well, at least not a VW dealer . Thank god sunroofs come as a factory option for VW's.

 

[BigSmooth]

Originally posted by: Ultima
What kind of a stupid comparison is that? THey're not even in the same class.
The Jetta is more luxurious and the WRX could run circles around a Jetta. They're not the same kind of car.

True, but they both aim for the same buyers (in large part). It's a tough call, both cars have their advantages. I'd probably end up going with the Jetta, but I'd do a lot of hand-wringing first.

 

[imported_vr6]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
wrx is by far the performance leader, and isn't far behind on the build qualty. and subaru was making reliable cars back when the jetta was the POS known as the rabbit

the WRX is FAR behind in quality. I own one and sat in the other and it just made me sick... The WRX is a great car, if performance is all you care about.

 

[imported_vr6]

Originally posted by: Ultima

Originally posted by: jaybert
Umm....the new jetta gli's have 201hp (6speed manual) with the vr6 engine option and the 1.8T engine puts out 180hp stock. Chip the 1.8T engine and you're looking at 210hp, 250 ft/lb torque, to the wheels.

Oh yeah, theres also the little thing that the WRX does not have 265 horses, rather 227. So I guess your arguement really maes no sense at all

Originally posted by: B00ne
How can u even compare the WRX to the jettta
For one the wrx has 265 hp roughly 50% more than the fastest jetta, and then there is the sticker price of $35000 i guess ud have a hard time getting a jetta up to 35000.... (although its possible)

Who cares? It's still FWD. If all I cared about was performance I'd get a damn Camaro and blow your WRX and Jetta away. You'd be staring at my taillights. However that's not all I care about. Jetta is more luxury than sport, and anyone who thinks they're getting a fast car when they buy a Jetta is a dumbass. The WRX is all about sport, and not luxury. They're two different cars.

Since when could a Camaro BLOW by the WRX?? Unless your talking about the SS,the only thing your blowing away is your gas.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Kwan1

Originally posted by: Ultima

Originally posted by: jaybert
Umm....the new jetta gli's have 201hp (6speed manual) with the vr6 engine option and the 1.8T engine puts out 180hp stock. Chip the 1.8T engine and you're looking at 210hp, 250 ft/lb torque, to the wheels.

Oh yeah, theres also the little thing that the WRX does not have 265 horses, rather 227. So I guess your arguement really maes no sense at all

Originally posted by: B00ne
How can u even compare the WRX to the jettta
For one the wrx has 265 hp roughly 50% more than the fastest jetta, and then there is the sticker price of $35000 i guess ud have a hard time getting a jetta up to 35000.... (although its possible)

Who cares? It's still FWD. If all I cared about was performance I'd get a damn Camaro and blow your WRX and Jetta away. You'd be staring at my taillights. However that's not all I care about. Jetta is more luxury than sport, and anyone who thinks they're getting a fast car when they buy a Jetta is a dumbass. The WRX is all about sport, and not luxury. They're two different cars.

Since when could a Camaro BLOW by the WRX?? Unless your talking about the SS,the only thing your blowing away is your gas.

SS, or Z28, is faster than a WRX. And SS gets around 30 mpg on the highway, with the 6 speed. Despite the general perception of the Camaros/Firebirds as a white-trash POS, they are very fast cars. And yes, they handle well stock, extremely well when slightly modified.

From a standing start, a V8 Camaro will match a WRX. Through the 1/4, a Camaro will pull ahead. And at highway speeds, a Camaro will just keep going while the WRX has run out of revs. And again, all this while getting 30 mpg highway.