jewish?

[gregshin]

i was wondering this...can ya'll enlighten me please...and please no racist remarks or sterotypes...i would really like this to be a mature converstation of this topic.

 

[So]

Yeah, I'm just going to back out of this thread slowly.

 

[gregshin]

Originally posted by: So
Yeah, I'm just going to back out of this thread slowly.

why?

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: So
Yeah, I'm just going to back out of this thread slowly.

Im with you on that. Im just gonna watch this thread from some bushes at a safe distance.

 

[mordantmonkey]

um i think it's both a religion and a race. But which came first? I'm thinking it was a race first then the religion kept it that way, since inter religion marriage rarely happened back in the day. But now i think the race lines are pretty blurred. I'm gonna vote for religion.
but it really doesn't matter because we'll all be mauve one day.

 

[RichUK]

It's a race.

 

[mugs]

Ethnicity, not a race.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: gregshin

Originally posted by: So
Yeah, I'm just going to back out of this thread slowly.

why?

It is a trite expression used to infer that a thread will turn into an insulting argument between two or more parties.

 

[jmcoreymv]

Financial strategy.

 

[gregshin]

Originally posted by: jmcoreymv
Financial strategy.

that wasnt nice

 

[nakedfrog]

Both.

 

[Baked]

Jewler.

 

[alien42]

this is definately a valid question that i have pondered before. it seems to me that because of hitler is was very frowned upon to call jewish a race and not just a religion. most jews have specific physical characteristics which is a racial and not religious indicator. also most jews that i know consider themselves a 'people' and not just a different religion.

wiki says "ethno-religious group"

 

[Ulfhednar]

Judaism is a religion.

 

[ArchCenturion]

Originally posted by: jmcoreymv
Financial strategy.

lol
Is it just me or do most Jewish women have large breasts?

 

[mugs]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew

Jews (Hebrew: ?????????, Yehudim; Yiddish: ?????, Yiden) are followers of Judaism or, more generally, members of the Jewish people (also known as the Jewish nation, or the Children of Israel), an ethno-religious group descended from the ancient Israelites and from converts who joined their religion.

Generally, in modern secular usage, Jews include three groups: people who practice Judaism and have a Jewish ethnic background (sometimes including those who do not have strictly matrilineal descent), people without Jewish parents who have converted to Judaism; and those Jews who, while not practicing Judaism as a religion, still identify themselves as Jewish by virtue of their family's Jewish descent and their own cultural and historical identification with the Jewish people.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: mugs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew

Jews (Hebrew: ?????????, Yehudim; Yiddish: ?????, Yiden) are followers of Judaism or, more generally, members of the Jewish people (also known as the Jewish nation, or the Children of Israel), an ethno-religious group descended from the ancient Israelites and from converts who joined their religion.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: mugs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew

Jews (Hebrew: ?????????, Yehudim; Yiddish: ?????, Yiden) are followers of Judaism or, more generally, members of the Jewish people (also known as the Jewish nation, or the Children of Israel), an ethno-religious group descended from the ancient Israelites and from converts who joined their religion.

Yes, what is your point? The OP obviously knows it is a religion. Any idiot knows it is a religion. His question is if it's a race/ethnicity or just a religion. That implies he knows it is a religion and he's asking if it is a race or ethnicity in addition to that.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: mugs
Yes, what is your point? The OP obviously knows it is a religion. Any idiot knows it is a religion. His question is if it's a race/ethnicity or just a religion. That implies he knows it is a religion and he's asking if it is a race or ethnicity in addition to that.

It's just a religion, there are plenty of white, black, or whatever Jews.

Or did you miss the whole converts bit of your own quote?

 

[DougK62]

It's a religion and an ethnicity. You can have both the religion AND the ethnicity, or just one of them, or neither of them.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: mugs
Yes, what is your point? The OP obviously knows it is a religion. Any idiot knows it is a religion. His question is if it's a race/ethnicity or just a religion. That implies he knows it is a religion and he's asking if it is a race or ethnicity in addition to that.

It's just a religion, there are plenty of white, black, or whatever Jews.

Or did you miss the whole converts bit of your own quote?

It is not just a religion. It can refer to a follower of the religion or it can refer to a member of the ethnic group. There are religious Jews who are not ethnic Jews, and there are ethnic Jews who don't practice Judaism.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: mugs
It is not just a religion. It can refer to a follower of the religion or it can refer to a member of the ethnic group. There are religious Jews who are not ethnic Jews, and there are ethnic Jews who don't practice Judaism.

So there are ethnic Jews and non-ethnic Jews? I guess that makes Judaism a religion and not an ethnicity.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: mugs
It is not just a religion. It can refer to a follower of the religion or it can refer to a member of the ethnic group. There are religious Jews who are not ethnic Jews, and there are ethnic Jews who don't practice Judaism.

So there are ethnic Jews and non-ethnic Jews? I guess that makes Judaism a religion and not an ethnicity.

I'm going to assume that the OP is intelligent enough to read the two quotes I posted and come to the correct conclusion. Frankly I don't care if you agree with me, this thread is not for your benefit.

 

[thomsbrain]

it's no more an ethnicity than being a Mormon. Yeah, because of prefered inter-religion breeding, you've got a slightly more consistent group of genes. but a shade of white is still white. and you can be "officially" jewish and be mostly black or mostly asian, so it really doesn't mean anything. german people aren't a different ethnicity from english people, even though they often look different.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: mugs
I'm going to assume that the OP is intelligent enough to read the two quotes I posted and come to the correct conclusion. Frankly I don't care if you agree with me, this thread is not for your benefit.

I agree. Apparently this thread is for people to say things they know nothing about outside of what they read on Wikipedia.