Then about half of the things you've done in life are wrong. People in your area need to start following the fucking rules.
I don't need an ID to buy alcohol (well over 26), with direct deposit no need for ID, never once had to provide ID for movie, If you don't drive, ID isn't needed, rarely if ever show an ID for credit/debit card, very few work for the justice dept., and I don't fly, haven't in years, I'd rather drive that put up with the molestation squad.
Maybe his dad is an alcoholic and that makes it inconceivably hard to take a bus to the registry place.Isn't it possible to get a simple state-issued photo ID? Why couldn't he get one of those?
I am pretty sure I had to in our last election. Elections Canada seems to agree, though you can apparently use two other forms of voter identification that are also relatively secure.
Rather than complain that they can not get one and making a big stink; they get off their tailbones and do something about it.
Follows in the general footsteps that the Dem wish to push; lazy ones that refuse to do anything; wanting help from others instead of doing things yourself.
You know I work for the govt. When I hired on I had to swear to uphold and defend the constitution. It says all citizens over 18 get to vote. Not all citizens over 18 with an I.d. card.
Passing this type of law by a partisan vote to affect an election that is a few months away is nothing more than a blatant attempt to influence the election through voter turn out. The sponsor of the law directly said so.
This type of partisan fuckery can be abused by either party. It needs to be stopped now. If the Dems were in power and passed a law that supplied voter ID for free with all welfare checks but otherwise you had to got one DMV on alternate Thursdays during a full moon from 1:45 to 2:17 you'd be fine with that.
I can't find that qualifier in the Voting Rights Act anywhere. :hmm:There is no right to vote without proving your identity.
You know I work for the govt. When I hired on I had to swear to uphold and defend the constitution. It says all citizens over 18 get to vote. Not all citizens over 18 with an I.d. card.
You've seen the stats that show virtually no in person voter fraud.
Passing this type of law by a partisan vote to affect an election that is a few months away is nothing more than a blatant attempt to influence the election through voter turn out. The sponsor of the law directly said so.
This type of partisan fuckery can be abused by either party. It needs to be stopped now. If the Dems were in power and passed a law that supplied voter ID for free with all welfare checks but otherwise you had to got one DMV on alternate Thursdays during a full moon from 1:45 to 2:17 you'd be fine with that.
Writing laws to suppress voter turnout so your guy can get elected is an affront to our democracy regardless who does it.
The homeless guy, the transgendered atheist, and the billionaire CEO all have the same right to a single vote. They are all American.
Don't support tyranny.
Yeah you should expand option 2 from your link. I can show a utility bill and a bank statement.
I have NO need to show photo ID to vote.
In terms of disenfranchising the poor, isn't that far worse? Not only do you have to have a bank account, you have to own property? (Or at least be a rentier.)
Generally speaking, while "photo ID is a must" is incorrect, you do have to prove your identity in Canada to vote.
My question is if they can't make it to the DMV how could they make it to the polls to stand in line there for a few hours?
I frankly do not give a damn on this issue, just wondering.
The law does not prevent you from voting.
It ensures that you are who you say you are before voting.
It applies to all people; not just a select group.
Is it written that those below a certain income must provide ID; all others do not.
Is it written that you must be of a certain color; live in a certain area. Nope
Is it written that only those that arrive on a bus must show ID. Nope.
It only states that everyone must provide a valid government issued ID to vote.
Did you know this means women will be getting IDs? Possibly women on welfare getting free IDs?And how is age typically verified?
Which is why the laws were passed months ago.
And the law you suggest would be immediately struck down, because it clearly violates equal protection by giving free IDs to only one group of people.
Being absentee ballots usually have the most shenanigans going on with interested parties trying to invalidate them/'lose' them, etc.
Especially the ones from military serving overseas.
That's shitty too.
And so is voter ID in an election year
And so is trying to shorten poll hours in dem districts and extend it rep districts.
Voting should be sacrosanct period.
My question is if they can't make it to the DMV how could they make it to the polls to stand in line there for a few hours?
I frankly do not give a damn on this issue, just wondering.
There are hundreds of voting precincts throughout the state, but perhaps only 40 DMV offices. It's a lot easier to get to a school two miles away than to get to a DMV office that might be 50 miles away.
Note also the DMV offices are normally open during normal business hours - when people work. Whereas precincts are open over extended hours. If someone is struggling to make ends meet, missing a day at work to go to a DMV office would be a big deal.
Good one! :biggrin: :thumbsup:You mean one of the things you need ID to do? :biggrin:
Could you point to statistics that show that voter fraud is probable and that voter ID laws will significantly prevent cases of voter fraud from occurring without disenfranchising anyone who is legally allowed to vote?Without voter ID laws, how would you prevent any of these probable things from happening? Or are those who are against voter ID laws "OK" with those risks?
Yes you do. Very reasonable means are allowed. Thats kind of what the entire point is. Those reasonable means are not made available in the US right now.
What is this non-reasonable process that Americans have to go through? A couple of hours at the DMV? I did that for my licence too.
Could you point to statistics that show that voter fraud is probable and that voter ID laws will significantly prevent cases of voter fraud from occurring without disenfranchising anyone who is legally allowed to vote?
Personally, I'm OK with these risks. To me, it is similar to our justice system, where we allow guilty people to occasionally go free just so we can avoid locking up innocent people. If legal citizens are prevented from voting under the auspices of this law, then in my mind, it is an abject failure and an affront to everything I hold dear about American democracy. We don't need laws based around the fear that something terrible might happen. What are the actual stats on voter fraud? I've seen numbers that say there have been less than 100 cases in Pennsylvania in the last 5 years. 6,000,000 Pennsylvanians voted in the 2008 Presidential election. Even if all 100 cases of voter fraud occurred in that year, that's less than 0.002% of the vote. Is 0.002% of the vote really going to sway the election? Could cutting hundreds of thousands of names from voter rolls potentially do a lot more to sway the elections?
This is an unnecessary law to address a problem that does not exist. It disenfranchises legal voters for absolutely no reason, or at least not the stated reason. There is not a big wave of illegal immigrants in Pennsylvania committing voter fraud every year. Yes, it happens, but it is nowhere near as big a problem as you make it out to be, and all this law does is make things worse. Disenfranchising any legal voters for any reason is unAmerican and every true patriot in this country should be against it.
What is this non-reasonable process that Americans have to go through? A couple of hours at the DMV? I did that for my licence too.