I'm just saying that I have yet to hear anything actually going against those high performance claims.
I have a lot less faith in the mobile division making sensible decisions. The 7420 situation came to be because the S810 was worse by a considerable margin and it wouldn't have been acceptable to use both because one model variant would have been clearly much better. It all depends if the S820 efficiency ends up within reach of the 8890.
What makes you think this is their first effort? The amount of projects that don't end up as actual products is pretty ridiculous for Samsung.Fair enough. I just have to be skeptical that Samsung is going to hit such a home run with their very first CPU core. Basically it would seem that the claim is that Samsung will put out something that outclasses the ARM A72 (ARM has been doing this for a long time), which is a bit difficult to believe for a first effort.
The process is the least thing that caused the large difference in power. Even the 5433 on a worse 20nm process uses far less power.Why was this a surprise to Samsung? One chip had the advantage of being implemented in a 14nm finFET process while the other was on a much less efficient 20nm process.
What makes you think this is their first effort? The amount of projects that don't end up as actual products is pretty ridiculous for Samsung.
The process is the least thing that caused the large difference in power. Even the 5433 on a worse 20nm process uses far less power.
It'll eventually make a full S801/S805/S808/S810 comparison along with S820 once I get my hands on a device.Interesting! Do you have a link to some power consumption results for the A57 cores in the SD810?
A double gut punch to AMD. Lose your lead architect to your competition.
It'll eventually make a full S801/S805/S808/S810 comparison along with S820 once I get my hands on a device.
This is just what he does, he moves from place to place after working with each company on a project.
Remember Elop from Microsoft when he moved to Nokia? Well....that is the caseIf his leave from AMD was planned. Then they would have had a replacement.
And joining Samsung so fast as well leaves the impression that something was wrong at his former employer.
Else it could be excused for personal matters etc.
:thumbsup: :biggrin:Ya seems that way. Members here crack me up, when Jim was at AMD he was just one guy and he didn't matter, but now that he has left AMD suddenly AMD is in trouble and the sky is falling! LOL!
Samsung must be working on a custom core to compete with Apple's A series, as their vanilla ARM cores are fast but have issues (7420). I'm exited to see another player move into custom SoC design, Apple needs competition.
Isn't this what we've been seeing with Apple? Or even Qualcomm for that matter. At least for people with minimal technical inclinations.Also do you really think that from a business perspective smartphone buyers really care whether Samsung has a custom CPU core or a vanilla, well-designed ARM CPU core?
Isn't this what we've been seeing with Apple? Or even Qualcomm for that matter. At least for people with minimal technical inclinations.
I dont think 9 out of 10 smartphone users got a clue what the SoC is for example.
FTFY, and I think 9 out of 10 is being really generous I'd peg it at 98 out of 100.
Have you actually talked with such people? I have no doubt that Keller is a good engineering manager, and before he was a manager was a good CPU architect, but the hyperbolic claims that he's a "legendary" CPU architect and that everything he touches turns to gold get really tiresome really quickly.
The A-series chips are the product of many very smart engineers working with a very large budget in service of a very specific, highly focused product.
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Trust me, the vast, vast majority of people buying iPhones do not give a hoot about the SoC inside. Everybody in my immediate family owns iPhones and I am the only person who has ever run a performance benchmark on my phone.
Benchmarks and SoC specs are fun tidbits for us nerds but in the real world nobody cares. All that matters is that the phone delivers a great, smooth user experience.
The Android ecosystem is horrible (and to a lesser extent iOS) in leveraging bleeding edge hardware anyway. Game developers are primarily economics-limited thanks to the F2P/P2W monetizing model, not because of the lack of CPU/GPU power.
Good point.