Job Interview - What to Wear?

[88keys]

in that case i wouldn't let either of them fix my car.

your argument is pretty retarded overall though. you aren't even talking about interviewing people for a job. you're talking about what you would want on a commercial for a mechanics shop. those 2 things have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

Not my fault you can't read or understand things

I used to get frustrated dealing with stupid people. But then I realized that they are actually my greatest asset because they help people like me get ahead.

Human beings are very superficial in many ways. We value conformance over performance and confidence over competence. Politicians know this better than everyone else. A guy who looks like an auto mechanic (but well dressed and groomed) in a job interview is more likely to get a job as an auto mechanic for the same reason a guy named DeSean is going to get less responses to his resume than a guy named Richard.

 

[z1ggy]

So Best Buy, Target, and Walmart did not have the phone tripod. So... I'm going to have to improvise. I have a phone holder for my car which latches on the air vent. I'm thinking of setting up some hard cover text books on my table and placing the phone in the holder and setting it up somehow so it's nice and level. Might have to use some duct tape or something to secure it, not sure.

I'm heading home 2 hours before the interview takes place to set it up and connect the BT headset I got. Hopefully that works because otherwise last ditch insanely ghetto effort will be straight up duct taping the phone to the wall with some of the books under it for support.

Not much I could have done, they gave me a 2 day heads up on the interview day and time. I will be wearing white shirt, dark grey tie, grey jacket.

Thanks all. You can stop your argument now.

 

[purbeast0]

one word of advice - don't let this company know how much you overthink stuff lol.

 

[CraKaJaX]

Updates? Meat hang? No Tripod? Any pants? Fruit Loops?

Don't leave us hanging......... :awe:

 

[z1ggy]

Well.... I'll have to update once it's over. I've outlined my plan above.

Obviously I will hang meat.

 

[CraKaJaX]

Well.... I'll have to update once it's over. I've outlined my plan above.

Obviously I will hang meat.

Wasn't it yesterday? God dammit. What's todaY? Is it Friday yet? :whiste:

 

[Anubis]

According to this site
http://www.tarleton.edu/careerservices/Students/dress-to-impress.html

these are examples of business casual and business professional.

So maybe go with the business professional tie and shirt but don't wear the jacket during the interview.



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im sorry but business casual and a tie don't go together
kakis + polo or button down no tie

 

[z1ggy]

Wasn't it yesterday? God dammit. What's todaY? Is it Friday yet? :whiste:

Okay soooooo I had a 30 minute interview with the VP of... something, I forgot..I wrote it down. But anyway, that went pretty well. Then I had a ridiculous 75 minute interview with the Assistant VP of Business Integration who sounds like would be my boss.

Almost shit my pants when about half way through the call dropped because my BT headset died. Luckily, I reacted pretty quick, got back on the call with out the blue tooth, got her desk number and just called her and finished it out with just audio. She didn't seem too bothered by it.

Overall, I think I did well. Insanely enough, even though this was my FOURTH interview (spent 3 hours talking with this company so far) she told me if I was "selected" to make it into the "next round of interviews" I would hear back and probably come in for an in person visit early January to speak with some of the Executives.

....No wonder this company is seeking out a L6S specialist. What an epic waste of an Executives time, and overall spending this much money just hiring people.

Guys, on average, how much time did you spending being interviewed? Do you agree that 3+ hours is excessive? This job isn't management, and I'll probably be making right around $100k if I got this position.

 

[Uppsala9496]

Have been working at various insurance companies and MGA's/MGU's for the past 18+ years.
Longest interview was maybe an hour. Worst time suck are the personality tests.
Is the position you are applying for an existing position or is a newly formed one? From your OP I'm guessing newly formed and so that maybe explains why so many people are involved. If it doesn't work out for them, they can all point fingers at each other and no one individual/department will take the full blame.

Or you could just be interviewing with a very inefficient company.

 

[CraKaJaX]

Had a 10-15 min phone interview and then was brought in about 3 weeks later and interviewed by 2 managers in the department which lasted about 2 hours. It went by quick though because a lot of it was going through drawings and them making sure I understood what the hell I was looking at/talking about. The last 15 mins was just BS'ing basically.

This job isn't management, and I'll probably be making right around $100k if I got this position.

h8u

 

[z1ggy]

Have been working at various insurance companies and MGA's/MGU's for the past 18+ years.
Longest interview was maybe an hour. Worst time suck are the personality tests.
Is the position you are applying for an existing position or is a newly formed one? From your OP I'm guessing newly formed and so that maybe explains why so many people are involved. If it doesn't work out for them, they can all point fingers at each other and no one individual/department will take the full blame.

Or you could just be interviewing with a very inefficient company.

So according to the first VP, this position is actually not new. I couldn't tell (and didn't ask) how long the position was actually held for, but the previous person who did this job left the company.

My guess is that he did a bad job and potentially was let go or somehow screwed them over. It seems this position is getting a lot of attention, as the CEO of the company requested this role be filled again.

Clearly though, they are not efficiently run. I would be the only belt in the company other than one executive in HR, who probably doesn't actually work on L6S projects. However, it is good that the company understand that they aren't running as well as they should and can take advantage of the principles that get applied when you Lean things out.

Had a 10-15 min phone interview and then was brought in about 3 weeks later and interviewed by 2 managers in the department which lasted about 2 hours. It went by quick though because a lot of it was going through drawings and them making sure I understood what the hell I was looking at/talking about. The last 15 mins was just BS'ing basically.



h8u

Well, you kind of hit the nail on the head. Key word, managers. Having VP level or Executives interview anybody who isn't working directly for them is a waste of their time, and taking up capacity for them to do other value adding things.

I'll be changing things like that hopefully. All I have to do is have an in with somebody up high, and get my Frank Underwood on.

 

[purbeast0]

Well, you kind of hit the nail on the head. Key word, managers. Having VP level or Executives interview anybody who isn't working directly for them is a waste of their time, and taking up capacity for them to do other value adding things.

I'll be changing things like that hopefully. All I have to do is have an in with somebody up high, and get my Frank Underwood on.

my last interview i had (for my current company) lasted about 3-4 hours. they provided lunch as well. the first bit is meeting with 2 tech people and having some technical discussions with me doing some stuff on a whiteboard.

the next guy i met with was the VP of the company and it's more of a personal level interview and just asking about what i want to do. the next guy i met with was the guy who kind of runs operations and the business side of things kind of telling me more about the types of work i would be doing with different contracts, etc.

the last guy i met with was the CEO of the company. it was more of a personal interview where he just asked about what my goals are and what i want to get out of working for them, and just telling me about the company values etc. the last 10-15 minutes is more personal where he just wants to get to know you.

at any point in the interview if they feel you won't be a good fit, they will just get you and let you know so they don't waste anyones time since it is a long process. my buddy interviewed here after i had the job and he didn't pass the technical part, so he didn't bother with the rest of the interview.

i actually really liked the interview process, and a lot of it is to see if you will fit in with the culture of the company. they are also very picky with who they hire (on average they make offers to 10% of the people they interview) and the company does great so it's a good process. i actually LIKE that i met with 2 owners of the company in the interview, because it shows you that everyone is kind of "on the same level" as far as who can communicate with who.

it's still that way today - yesterday the CEO came to my desk and gave me an amazon gift card as an xmas gift (which he does every year, and this is outside of our bonuses) and always tells us there is 1 rule with the gift card - spend it on yourself, don't use it to buy someone else a gift.

 

[z1ggy]

Sounds like you work for a small company. This new place is 2000 people total, with 1200 or so working at corporate where I would be.

I currently work for a company where our business is 15,000 strong, and the total company in general is over 100,000. I've only seen the president of our business 2 times, and honestly, I only know the CEO's name. Don't even know what she looks like or anything about her, and I know I'll never meet her either.

 

[Zeze]

I never understood 'what to wear in interview' threads.

Really? Go full suit as always for 95% of the time.

Was that hard?

Unless it's some really small startup 50>, then consider business casual. And even then, that's a risk. Ask them.

 

[z1ggy]

I never understood 'what to wear in interview' threads.

Really? Go full suit as always for 95% of the time.

Was that hard?

Unless it's some really small startup 50>, then consider business casual. And even then, that's a risk. Ask them.

I didn't know if it made a difference that it was a VTC or not. I'd never done it before, thus, I asked a question.

 

[Zeze]

I didn't know if it made a difference that it was a VTC or not. I'd never done it before, thus, I asked a question.

DEFINITELY full suit.

It being a teleconference is all the more reason to go extra mile in lieu of you not being in person. Nothing less than full suit.

 

[Rage187]

I never understood 'what to wear in interview' threads.

Really? Go full suit as always for 95% of the time.

Was that hard?

Unless it's some really small startup 50>, then consider business casual. And even then, that's a risk. Ask them.

I work at a very large software company and we laugh at the guys that show up in suits for programming/dev jobs.

We used to have large employment fairs and we would see a large group of suits. Mixed in there was one guy looking disheveled in beat up slacks and a faded polo shirt with a limp, uneven collar. That guy always got a job.

We didn't want the guy that could tie a tie, or the one that mommy dressed. We wanted the person who said "fuck it" and showed up anyways. We have a place for that person. A suit is a skin we have to peel off you to figure out whats inside. The disheveled guy, nothing to peel.

 

[Zeze]

I work at a very large software company and we laugh at the guys that show up in suits for programming/dev jobs.

We used to have large employment fairs and we would see a large group of suits. Mixed in there was one guy looking disheveled in beat up slacks and a faded polo shirt with a limp, uneven collar. That guy always got a job.

We didn't want the guy that could tie a tie, or the one that mommy dressed. We wanted the person who said "fuck it" and showed up anyways. We have a place for that person. A suit is a skin we have to peel off you to figure out whats inside. The disheveled guy, nothing to peel.

You have a very strange aversion to suit.

Apparently suit = full of crap that you have to peel away at.

 

[Rage187]

You have a very strange aversion to suit.

Apparently suit = full of crap that you have to peel away at.

in the tech world, unless you are interviewing for sales, marketing, VP: dress business casual.

 

[Ns1]

in the tech world, unless you are interviewing for sales, marketing, VP: dress business casual.

All the consultants that interviewed for the last project I was on wore suits to the interview. YMMV.

 

[z1ggy]

in the tech world, unless you are interviewing for sales, marketing, VP: dress business casual.

Idk if you read anything leading up to this point... But this isn't a "tech" job, ie not developing software, hardware, etc. This is for an insurance company.

Anyway, you can all let this thread die now, I got what I needed out of you all :awe:

 

[Schfifty Five]

I work at a very large software company and we laugh at the guys that show up in suits for programming/dev jobs.

We used to have large employment fairs and we would see a large group of suits. Mixed in there was one guy looking disheveled in beat up slacks and a faded polo shirt with a limp, uneven collar. That guy always got a job.

We didn't want the guy that could tie a tie, or the one that mommy dressed. We wanted the person who said "fuck it" and showed up anyways. We have a place for that person. A suit is a skin we have to peel off you to figure out whats inside. The disheveled guy, nothing to peel.

Hm, sounds like you guys just don't know how to dress properly or have very bad taste in clothing.

 

[TheGardener]

Why didn't anyone give the most obvious answer? Go ask mom!

 

[purbeast0]

Sounds like you work for a small company. This new place is 2000 people total, with 1200 or so working at corporate where I would be.

I currently work for a company where our business is 15,000 strong, and the total company in general is over 100,000. I've only seen the president of our business 2 times, and honestly, I only know the CEO's name. Don't even know what she looks like or anything about her, and I know I'll never meet her either.

yeah i do, i work for a company that is about 150 or so now, was like 115 when i was hired. i'd never want to work for a large company in general though. there is way too much process for the sake of process with those big companies and so much time and money wasted. plus i don't want to just be a statistic, i want to actually make a difference.

 

[88keys]

one word of advice - don't let this company know how much you overthink stuff lol.

Good advice. Leadership skills are highly valued an almost every line of work and overthinking something is often a sign of a bad leader.