Job Interview - What to Wear?

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blankslate

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isn't the "general rule" dress one level above the position you're applying for?

so maybe dress shirt and sport coat minus the tie. or a casual button up shirt with a sport coat?

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garndawg

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isn't the "general rule" dress one level above the position you're applying for?

so maybe dress shirt and sport coat minus the tie. or a casual button up shirt with a sport coat?

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Agree with this. Dress for the job you _want_, not the job you're applying for. I'm an old fart, but if you're interviewing with VP's, you wear a coat...AND tie!

Conform in the interview, make your individualist statements AFTER you've got the job...
 

deadlyapp

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I don't have a laptop. And... How is a tablet camera better/different than a cell phone camera? They are basically the exact same.



Insurance company. The website says they allow Business Casual dress... But I think because this is an interview, a tie is warranted. Have never done interview via VTC before, but the office is not within driving distance for me.

it's for the stability sake. Most tablets have a kickstand vs your phone which you'll more than likely be holding in your hand.
 

z1ggy

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it's for the stability sake. Most tablets have a kickstand vs your phone which you'll more than likely be holding in your hand.

Actually my phone case does have a kick stand, but it still won't be at eye level. I'm going to go the tripod & BT Headset route.

Job position title is Lean Six Sigma Specialist, it's not management or anything like how. However, my boss would be the Assistant VP who's interviewing me.
 
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blankslate

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I don't have a laptop. And... How is a tablet camera better/different than a cell phone camera? They are basically the exact same.



Insurance company. The website says they allow Business Casual dress... But I think because this is an interview, a tie is warranted. Have never done interview via VTC before, but the office is not within driving distance for me.


According to this site
http://www.tarleton.edu/careerservices/Students/dress-to-impress.html

these are examples of business casual and business professional.





So maybe go with the business professional tie and shirt but don't wear the jacket during the interview.



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deadlyapp

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Actually my phone case does have a kick stand, but it still won't be at eye level. I'm going to go the tripod & BT Headset route.

Job position title is Lean Six Sigma Specialist, it's not management or anything like how. However, my boss would be the Assistant VP who's interviewing me.

six sigma in an insurance company? What are you supposed to do in a non-manufacturing environment?
 
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z1ggy

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sig sigma in an insurance company? What are you supposed to do in a non-manufacturing environment?

Whether you be manufacturing goods or not, there are still processes in place. Plenty of projects my group runs here (at a large manufacturing place) involves improving processes.

For example, the workflow and process of creating a drawing. We reduced the process from 24 steps to 6 steps. That's more of a Lean approach, but the data analysis, determining root cause and variance are Six Sigma skills.
 

squirrel dog

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hold your junk with your right hand and wildly gesture with your left hand . I got this is a good catch phrase .
 

purbeast0

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if you aren't sure why don't you ask the company who is going to be interviewing you?
 

BurnItDwn

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wear a parka and a balaclava. If they hire you, then you know for sure its due to your awesome talents.
 

deadlyapp

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Whether you be manufacturing goods or not, there are still processes in place. Plenty of projects my group runs here (at a large manufacturing place) involves improving processes.

For example, the workflow and process of creating a drawing. We reduced the process from 24 steps to 6 steps. That's more of a Lean approach, but the data analysis, determining root cause and variance are Six Sigma skills.

No, and I get that - most of our black belts focus solely on processes, whether it is at the beginning before an order or after during execution. I guess I just don't see how that can be a full time position at a company that primarily is a paperwork company. Maybe I don't know that industry well enough to comment. Just seems like something they'd contract out.
 

z1ggy

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No, and I get that - most of our black belts focus solely on processes, whether it is at the beginning before an order or after during execution. I guess I just don't see how that can be a full time position at a company that primarily is a paperwork company. Maybe I don't know that industry well enough to comment. Just seems like something they'd contract out.

One of my biggest questions will be asking them why they think they need a belt. It will definitely be a challenge for me to work with data and processes they might not actually produce physical products.

It will be good for my resume though, to show companies I am versatile. Being successful in multiple environments will make me more marketable in the future.

Going out to Best Buy after a work social tonight, buying a tripod and hopefully good BT headset. Going to wear a white shirt with a grey tie... about as plain and neutral as I can get.

No pants though... :awe:
 

88keys

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Don't overdress, don't under dress.

Being well dressed is important, but so is 'looking the part'.

Think about what a person in the field you're applying for typically wears and take that up about one notch. This should also be how you dress when you come to work everyday.

'Looking the part' is probably the most underestimated and overlooked aspects of getting hired or promoted. Presidential elections in the last 50 years are proof of this.

Remember, a bad product well apologized for is superior to a good product.
 

purbeast0

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Don't overdress, don't under dress.

Being well dressed is important, but so is 'looking the part'.

Think about what a person in the field you're applying for typically wears and take that up about one notch. This should also be how you dress when you come to work everyday.

'Looking the part' is probably the most underestimated and overlooked aspects of getting hired or promoted. Presidential elections in the last 50 years are proof of this.

Remember, a bad product well apologized for is superior to a good product.

i disagree with this 100%. you simply cannot be overdressed for an interview imo.

my first job out of school was at a software dev company where i could wear shorts and flip flops to work with a t-shirt. not a chance i would just "step up one notch" from that in an interview. wearing a suit and tie is always the best approach, UNLESS they specifically tell you NOT to do that, as happened to my buddy who interviewed at Blizzard (and subsequently got the job).

i've interviewed places as well on my lunch break, and i asked them if it was okay if i came in my work clothes (jeans and collared shirt) and they had no problem with that too. op should just ask instead of trying to figure it out himself.
 

CraKaJaX

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Don't overdress, don't under dress.

Being well dressed is important, but so is 'looking the part'.

Think about what a person in the field you're applying for typically wears and take that up about one notch. This should also be how you dress when you come to work everyday.

'Looking the part' is probably the most underestimated and overlooked aspects of getting hired or promoted. Presidential elections in the last 50 years are proof of this.

Remember, a bad product well apologized for is superior to a good product.

False.

We recently were hiring another plant engineer at one of our power plants. If you know anything about a power plant, everyone essentially looks like a mechanic and talks like a trucker. All the interviewees showed up in suits and ties, slicked hair, cologne, the whole nine yards. Meanwhile, the guys interviewing him were in oily jeans and long sleeve FR shirts. We had some good fun joking about it, but in the end they did the right thing. If I was interviewing, I would do the exact same. The plant manager and the secretaries are basically the only people that dress normally on a daily basis.
 

z1ggy

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Emailed recruiter asking her what the expected dress code is for this meeting. Told her I was planning on shirt and tie, but wasn't entirely sure.

Edit: She replied that shirt and tie is appropriate.

Roommate told me to duct tape my phone to the wall...lol
 
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88keys

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i disagree with this 100%. you simply cannot be overdressed for an interview imo.

my first job out of school was at a software dev company where i could wear shorts and flip flops to work with a t-shirt. not a chance i would just "step up one notch" from that in an interview. wearing a suit and tie is always the best approach, UNLESS they specifically tell you NOT to do that, as happened to my buddy who interviewed at Blizzard (and subsequently got the job).

i've interviewed places as well on my lunch break, and i asked them if it was okay if i came in my work clothes (jeans and collared shirt) and they had no problem with that too. op should just ask instead of trying to figure it out himself.

False.

We recently were hiring another plant engineer at one of our power plants. If you know anything about a power plant, everyone essentially looks like a mechanic and talks like a trucker. All the interviewees showed up in suits and ties, slicked hair, cologne, the whole nine yards. Meanwhile, the guys interviewing him were in oily jeans and long sleeve FR shirts. We had some good fun joking about it, but in the end they did the right thing. If I was interviewing, I would do the exact same. The plant manager and the secretaries are basically the only people that dress normally on a daily basis.

To each his own and you are within your rights to be wrong . A successful friend of mine suggested that I do this and my approach has helped me out tremendously. I was hired on at my last job and I get paid significantly better than my co workers. Now if you're applying for a job as a truck driver or mechanic, I'm not saying that you have to dress like a 'typical' truck driver or mechanic. Instead, think about what a well dressed truck driver or mechanic would wear and go with that.

Think of it like this.
You have two people and you know nothing else about them and need your car fixed and you'll be spending alot of money on it. Would you trust the guy wearing a $500 suit to know how to fix it, or a the guy wearing a Dickies work shirt and blue jeans? Or better yet, suppose you're advertising and auto repair shop. Who would you want to have star in your commercial?

On the flip side, take the same two people and you need a lawyer and who you would pick in that situation?

Looking the part again is very overlooked and it's exactly why Bernie Sanders will never be president..... And it's because he doesn't look like a president.
 

Ns1

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You have two people and you know nothing else about them and need your car fixed and you'll be spending alot of money on it. Would you trust the guy wearing a $500 suit to know how to fix it, or a the guy wearing a Dickies work shirt and blue jeans? Or better yet, suppose you're advertising and auto repair shop. Who would you want to have star in your commercial?

I would take the guy with the best resume, and if they both had the same resume I would take the guy with the suit because he tried harder.

I'd think a six sigma guy would want to convey a sense of professionalism, but that's just me.
 

88keys

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I would take the guy with the best resume, and if they both had the same resume I would take the guy with the suit because he tried harder.

I'd think a six sigma guy would want to convey a sense of professionalism, but that's just me.

Go back and read my post.

You know nothing else about these people.
 

z1ggy

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The thing is, L6S Specialist can wear anything, depending on where he is. Here is a good example.

L6S guy #1 works in a shipyard, dealing with mechanics, welders, painters. He wears jeans, long sleeve button up shirt tucked in, hardhat & steel toe boots when in production areas.

L6S guy #2 works for car company in an office, wears chinos, button up shirt tucked in and boat shoes or oxfords.

L6S guy #3 works for Goldman Sachs in NYC and wears a suit.

All three guys are essentially doing the same job, but work in totally different environments. As far as I'm concerned, I'm probably somewhere in between guy #2 and guy #3. If this was an in person interview in their offices, I'd be in a suit. But it's a VTC and I'll be in my house. From the sounds of it, shirt and tie is acceptable. Suit would probably be okay too but I'm really not trying to over think this.
 

Ns1

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Go back and read my post.

You know nothing else about these people.

Hiring someone based solely on the way they dress to an interview is a dumb hypothetical.

So in the context of your question, I would go back to the drawing board and find some different criteria to judge my potential mechanics on.
 
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purbeast0

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Go back and read my post.

You know nothing else about these people.

in that case i wouldn't let either of them fix my car.

your argument is pretty retarded overall though. you aren't even talking about interviewing people for a job. you're talking about what you would want on a commercial for a mechanics shop. those 2 things have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
 

smackababy

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Hiring someone based solely on the way they dress to an interview is a dumb hypothetical.

So in the context of your question, I would go back to the drawing board and find some different criteria to judge my potential mechanics on.


I believe he meant using the services of a mechanic. Which is just as stupid of a hypothetical in this situation.


Op, I'd never hire anyone, for any position, that wasn't wearing a tie. If you can't put forth the minimal effort of trying to look your best on the day I am judging you, you won't put in the effort at work either. Fuck off.
 
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