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toekramp

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I'm huge into outdoor activities, and i would be compensated very well if I made the move. But I am hesitant to head to a mormon state... anyone care to share their opinion about the area?
 

BoomerD

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I lived just north of SLC for 3 years. Wouldn't go back for 4 times my usual wages.
I've never experienced a more discriminatory bunch of people than the Mormons.
They talk a nice game, but the reality is totally different than their talk...

OTOH, some of the finest people I've ever met in my life were Mormons...people who actually lived their lives by their beliefs. (they were IME, pretty rare)
Get ready for piss-beer...(AKA Mormon beer) 3.2% alcohol unless they've changed that in recent years, and state run liquor stores.
Also, unless things have changed, you have to bring your own bottle when you go drinking...they'll sell you the set-up (and keep your bottle behind the counter) but they won't sell you hard liquor. (I've been gone over 20 years, so the liquor laws MAY have changed)

Oh y eah...do you know why you never take one Mormon fishing?

Because he'll drink all your beer...if you take 2 Mormons fishing, they each worry the other one will tell on them, and they'll leave your beer alone...
 

pradeep1

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I worked in SLC for 6 months. Very nice city. Good, family oriented people. Great outdoors activities (skiing, hiking, etc.). Bland desert environment, but still nice. 80% Mormon, that may bother you if you are not into religion. It didn't bother me....found Mormons to be curiosly interesting and pretty cool. Unique and weird liquor laws, so if you are a drinker, be aware.
 

msparish

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SLC itself is a lot like other places...most people in the city are not Mormon. The suburbs are a whole different story. I like it here, but will be leaving soon to go to grad school. If you really like the outdoors and are getting a good salary, I'd recommend it. Especially if you are going to be living in the city.
 

mercanucaribe

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Salt Lake City has a very depressing environment. It's dry, flat desert, and SLC is one of the least rainy cities in the country. You like outdoor activities, but do you like outdoor activities in a wasteland?
I was only there for two days, and the guy I was staying with said that the city is mostly non-Mormon, and the suburbs are overwhelmingly Mormon. If I were you I wouldn't live in the suburbs. He also said that the Mormon establishment is corrupt
 

GTaudiophile

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My GF just moved away from SLC. She had a great job, great co-workers, great boss, decent pay, enjoyed the outdoors aspects of living there, etc. BUT in the end the Mormon attitudes played a big role in her wanting to leave.

 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
My GF just moved away from SLC. She had a great job, great co-workers, great boss, decent pay, enjoyed the outdoors aspects of living there, etc. BUT in the end the Mormon attitudes played a big role in her wanting to leave.

was she in the burbs or in the city?
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: pradeep1
I worked in SLC for 6 months. Very nice city. Good, family oriented people. Great outdoors activities (skiing, hiking, etc.). Bland desert environment, but still nice. 80% Mormon, that may bother you if you are not into religion. It didn't bother me....found Mormons to be curiosly interesting and pretty cool. Unique and weird liquor laws, so if you are a drinker, be aware.

Your name is Prakesh Pradeep. You know those "family oriented people" thought you were going to hell right?
 

rudder

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yeh, you could have 6 or 7 wives... but now that I have gathered my thoughts, that might not be too desireable.
 

Coolone

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I would just like to clarify as a Mormon that the Utah Mormons are a weird bunch compared to those you'll find outside the state. Many of them (more in the Provo/Orem area) are not used to people from outside the area (which is funny, because BYU is swamped with them). Its like a huge bubble of its own culture. I myself moved to Provo from South Africa and at times feel cut off from the outside world.

I'm by no means trying to defend the actions of others if they were discriminatory, they're just not used to people with different beliefs (or no beliefs), and quite frankly, they don't know how to handle it. I was a missionary in California, and whenever I got some newb companion from Utah, it was always hilarious to see what a culture shock it was for them to be outside "the bubble".

But the state is awesome for outside stuff. if you're into paintball, Special Ops is based in SLC. Southern Utah is an outdoor junkies heaven (you just need to know where to go), and Northern Utah has some great hikes with amazing views. If you're worried about liquor, somehow some of my non-Mormon relatives manage to find what they consider to be "the good stuff", I don't know the details though.
 

UTmtnbiker

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As a non-LDS person, along with being a minority (Asian) and growing up in Utah (and still living here), don't believe half of the stuff the posts above tell you.

1) SLC proper is demographically approximately 50% LDS/50% non. The city itself has a Democratic mayor, the 2nd Congressional district, which basically encompasses SLC has a Democratic representative (along he's a Blue Dog). Things are open on Sundays, which is great, since most LDS people don't shop then, it's a great time to get your errands done. Along with that, the west side of town, along with its suburbs, is significantly more diverse than the east side.

2) The suburbs are distinctly much more LDS than the city proper. However, unless you're big in to city politics, does it really matter? I live in a suburb of SLC (Sandy), and yes, the local politics are dominated by LDS members. However, it's not like they're forcing you to go to church, and they're definitely not forcing you to interact with them. We get the occasional missionary knock and door flyer for activities at the local church, we just choose to either tell them "no thank you" or don't go. It's not that hard to get a support network of friends who are not LDS. And despite what some may say, there are cool LDS people in the state. My best friend from childhood that I've now known for about 30 years is LDS. I just know what the limits are of doing stuff with them. If I want a drink, I call up other buddies to go with me.

3) Many states outside of Utah have both "weak" beer at 3.2% and state run liquor stores. The liquor laws are a little bit quirky, but getting a drink isn't as hard as it's made out to be. Laws have become much more liberal since the Olympics.

4) Outdoors activities are great. Skiing/boarding, hiking, mountain biking are all easily accessible. If you're a roadie (as I've turned in to) SLC is NOT the friendliest road bike town out there. You'll find narrow shoulders and a$$hole drivers.

5) Despite what mercanucaribe said (who had been here 2 days), Salt Lake is actually quite green and lush, much to the dismay of the water districts here. We use, per capita, more water on our lawns that any other city in the Intermountain region. The mountains are quite green all season long, with the exception of the grasses, but that is to be found in any other local climate such as southern California.

The long and the short of it, is SLC is just like any other city. I've lived in other towns for extended periods (years) of time such as the Bay, and have always come back to SLC. At this point, it's a modern metropolis (1.5million in the metro area) offering every amenity that you'd find in a NYC, LA, or SF. Some of it may be a little harder to find, and just like any locality, there are certain local rules/regs that you must follow, but it's not like there are hundreds of polygamists walking down the street (I've seen them maybe 20 times in my lifetime here) and missionaries kicking down your doors to convert you.

If you're going to be making a good salary, like the outdoors, and generally treat people the way you want to be treated, you'll be fine here, there, or anywhere. I'd encourage you to come as the cost of living is generally low compared to other "large" cities and if you're making bank, you'll be able to have an extremely good time here.

/end of my tourist board spiel
 

ATLien247

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Originally posted by: toekramp
I'm huge into outdoor activities, and i would be compensated very well if I made the move. But I am hesitant to head to a mormon state... anyone care to share their opinion about the area?

Define "compensated very well" for us...
 
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My brother moved out to that area last year as he lives for snowboarding, mountain biking, etc and he loves it there... There are more people than just mormons there.
 

Alienwho

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Yeah there's a lot of nonsense being thrown around.

I live in SLC. The majority of actual SLC is non-LDS. The suburbs have a much higher rate, but to be honest if anything that makes for a pretty safe/comfortable and family centered environment. Most of the suburbs are really nice because people take pride in their houses and for making a good community.

It is not a wasteland. The Salt Lake Valley is green and lush, despite the lack of rain. To the East you have the beautiful mountains which make for great outdoor activities, which are also green and beautiful. You don't enter the barron desert wasteland unless you drive out West to the desert. And that even has it's purposes as well if you are into Offroading/motorcycles/ATV's and shooting. For those of you that think you have been to SLC because you passed through the airport, well the airport is out west in the desert wasteland, so don't think you actually saw SLC.
 

toekramp

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for those of you that have actually lived there.. what part of the city should i be looking to move to? I'd like some restaurants/clubs/bars to be within a few blocks. Single, 26 male here. I live near DC now, and I guess a similar environment to like a Georgetown (not expecting it to be anywhere near the same though)
 

Phokus

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I like outdoors type stuff. Sounds like a neat place (except for the draconian alcohol laws). Does SLC have verizon FIOS internet by any chance?
 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: Phokus
I like outdoors type stuff. Sounds like a neat place (except for the draconian alcohol laws). Does SLC have verizon FIOS internet by any chance?

ya, i am gonna miss that. I have 30 meg down FIOS right now
 

Feldenak

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Personally, I'd probably make the move. Then again, I like to expose myself to different areas of the country. I grew up in Ohio, went to school at Auburn, got my first "real" job in Birmingham, and am currently chasing a potential Big 4 opportunity in D.C.
 

UTmtnbiker

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You'll never get anything close to a Georgetown/DC/NYC environment here.

SLC doesn't have the vibrant downtown that you'd see in a much larger city. It's much more like downtown LA/Sacto, where after 5pm, it's much more quiet, much more of a business district until the weekends when the bars are pretty crowded.

Areas that'll give you some of that feeling, although take down your expectations about 100-fold:

1. 9th and 9th area (900 South and 900 East, we abbreviate here and drop the hundred part)
2. Gateway area (what is that, 300 West and 200 South??? not quite sure of the address)
3. University of Utah area, although that's more for college students

That's about it. I'm sure some other people can tell you where other areas are as I'm not in to that as much any more being married and becoming much more of a home body.

No FIOS here. Fastest you'll get is Comcast cable at about 7 to 8 mbps.
Originally posted by: toekramp
for those of you that have actually lived there.. what part of the city should i be looking to move to? I'd like some restaurants/clubs/bars to be within a few blocks. Single, 26 male here. I live near DC now, and I guess a similar environment to like a Georgetown (not expecting it to be anywhere near the same though)

 
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