Job Offer - Which would you choose

[WingZero94]

Updated:

-Turned Down Offer officially in writing (thank you, blah blah). Didn't mention that money was the problem.
-Just got a call from them today offering me the job again for 7k more.
-Decision again....

My kids are pre-school age only.
I Own my house, but was getting ready to sell anyways (need more room).





Here is the situation. I am currently working on an 18 month contract with an organization. My job is to open up their PMO (Project Management Office). The organization is very disorganized and i'm not sure I want to work for them. It is in the government 'industry'. They (some of the leadership) would like to make my position permanent at the end of the 18 months, but have to ask the president for permission. Basically there is no guarantee that he'll agree to it or not. He's given them a hard time renewing an operators position (only 30k year). Mine would be considerably more than that.

I just received a job offer for a comparable position which is permanent. Private health care industry - large medical center. Pay is a tad bit lower, but not much (couple hundred bucks a month). Problem is i'd have to uproot the family and move (no commute). In this new position I would report directly to the CIO, which doesn't happen in my current job.

I have a full family to take care of (small children, wife stays at home) so the permanent job looks good. However, if I stay on my current job and the position is made permanent there is a potential for 20k raise in about 1 year.

I need some outside the box thinking. I'm not leaving the fate of my job up to the internet....

Thoughts?

 

[her209]

Its not even a competition man!

 

[Ns1]

Stick it out and wait for another offer?

 

[sunzt]

Well... what does your family think? It's really a decision that affects your family. What job would you enjoy doing more?

Also, how old are you? If you're young then you may be able to handle the risk of option 1

 

[WingZero94]

Family is ok either way. Our family lives here in town (most of them) so that'd suck a bit. However the drive is only 45 minutes. I'd probably enjoy the new offer more. I'm 29.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

sunzt has it correct, it depends on what the family thinks. I would try to convince them to move personally, but if they are against it then I would stick it out with the current company and be looking for another opening just to have 1 fall to job, and/or 2 a better job that doesn't require relocating.

 

[sunzt]

If your family is cool with it, then i would say take the more cautious option. You have a family now.

 

[glenn1]

Take the newer job for now, and then reapply for the first job in 18 months when/if the position gets made permanent.

 

[Aharami]

how far would you have to move your family?

 

[WingZero94]

Originally posted by: Aharami
how far would you have to move your family?

about 50 miles. The town (omaha) would be an upgrade as far as future potential goes. Many, MANY more tech jobs.

 

[jarfykk]

Honestly, if living that near family is important, and you don't want to uproot the family, just do the commute unless you're WAY against it. Another options is to move to a place maybe 10-15 minutes close to the new job, making the commute reasonable and the family situation better. Not a super option if you own a home, but if you're renting...think this qualifies as outside the box thinking. Assuming there is some place that fits the geographic location...I'm from SoCal so its one continuous metropolitan area for a couple hundred miles more or less.

Conversely you could take the offer from the new job, explain to your boss the position you're in, and ask to become permanent now. Worse they can do is say no and you put in your two weeks anyway. Once they factor in having to rehire someone, especially for a job that sounds like its time sensitive, you might have leverage. Only do this if you decide that the permanent factor is the most important, and only if you have a decent relationship with your boss.

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: WingZero94
Here is the situation. The organization is very disorganized

hehehe

 

[IronWing]

If it were me, I'd jump. I like "permanent position". Sadly, where I work we are on the other side. We are only allowed to hire temporaries (1-3 year) for most positions. We train the temps, we sometimes we even make eye contact with them, and *poof* they're gone, usually long before their contract is up. I don't blame folks one bit for jumping at any chance for a permanent position but it does leave our organization very disorganized.

 

[compman25]

Are the benefits better being it's a medical center?

 

[Scarpozzi]

Maybe you can let your current employer know you're looking..... If they really want to keep you, they might expedite things.

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: jarfykk
Honestly, if living that near family is important, and you don't want to uproot the family, just do the commute unless you're WAY against it. Another options is to move to a place maybe 10-15 minutes close to the new job, making the commute reasonable and the family situation better. Not a super option if you own a home, but if you're renting...think this qualifies as outside the box thinking. Assuming there is some place that fits the geographic location...I'm from SoCal so its one continuous metropolitan area for a couple hundred miles more or less.

Conversely you could take the offer from the new job, explain to your boss the position you're in, and ask to become permanent now. Worse they can do is say no and you put in your two weeks anyway. Once they factor in having to rehire someone, especially for a job that sounds like its time sensitive, you might have leverage. Only do this if you decide that the permanent factor is the most important, and only if you have a decent relationship with your boss.

qft, you have the power here (that is assuming you are a good employee).

 

[habib89]

what sucks is that you're in a contract position. i've been told that i would be hired on after the contract was up, but it didn't happen.

if it doesn't matter whether you stay or move, then that's not a variable, the variables are a) which job you will have more fun in, b) which will allow for more growth, and c) the one that will provide more money (now and in the future)....

talk to your boss at your current job, tell him you have a job offer, but would like to stay at this job, however the other offer is perm and this one is contract so if he can make it perm after the 18 month contract is over and that you would for sure get the job (and make sure you get that in writing), then stay at this job. also try to milk a little raise out of these guys.

or on the other hand, ask for a higher salary at the other other company and then move. you're only 45 mins from your family anyway... or just stay and do the commute, i commute 45 mins every day!

 

[olds]

If the kids are school age, I'd probably stay in town so they didn't have to change schools.

 

[dawp]

Also, are you renting or buying? in this housing market it's gonna be tough to sell.

 

[Captante]

Take the permenant job as long as moving won't be too much of a hassle.

Also wheres the poll?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Captante
Take the permenant job as long as moving won't be too much of a hassle.

Also wheres the poll?

It's there, A is winning. Is your browser blocking it?

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Maybe you can let your current employer know you're looking..... If they really want to keep you, they might expedite things.

Indeed. If you get through to the second round for the permanent job and they are talking about a contract let your employer know, and say you are looking for job security and they have not been able to offer you that so far. If they really want to hold on to you they will speed up the process and make an offer. If they don't you have the other job.

Note that I'd also seriously look at how well you like the current management and job, and the current place you are living in. If you like the latter but not the first two I'd look for a new job in the area later on, but stick with the area. If you don't mind moving and don't like the current management I'd suggest moving. If they haven't shown any initiative to change the things that irritate you in the company those things may still be there in the years to come, and the irritation will probably not go away.

 

[dmw16]

Well, a "few hundred dollars a month" can be a lot. If you are saving for kids' college funds and such it could make a major difference to your budget. At least it would to mine.

However, being in the health care industry is probably the best place to be. It is an industry that will always be needed and the demand seems to keep increasing. Also the permanent nature of the position is attractive for a family man. I guess if it were me and I could afford to give up "a few hundred" dollars a month I would take the direct position.

Good luck.

 

[WingZero94]

Thanks all for the ideas. Here is the update:

-Turned down job offer - never told my current employer
-Week later the (job offer) place called back up and offered me 7k more to take the job.
-Now have to decide again.