Job Situation what would you do?

ShreddedWheat

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I work as a seasoned restaurant manager. New company but doesn't have their "ducks in a row". After failed audits they put me in charge...understand my immediate boss has failed twice and his boss has failed twice. So I'm basically in charge of what my immediate boss should be in charge of. There is no way we will pass as my supervisors are lazy and incompetent and don't do their jobs. I can't fire them as there is no way that I could have trained and replaced them in 30 days time. I can't continue picking up the slack of them and putting in 100% myself. Understand that my wife "had" asked for divorce a month ago, I've been disowned by inlaws and kicked outta the house and living in motel. Before the audit I was the golden boy and basically going to be promoted in 2 years to a Director of Ops position over multiple units. Now it doesn't look good....I have gone from 50 hours a week to over 80+. There is rumor that I will be fired regardless of passing as the supervisors who are lazy are tired of being held accountable and are spreading lies and it is easier to fire one mgr than to lose 2-3 lazy ones. Wife doesn't mind too much if I quit as long as I can make the mortgage payment of new house which isn't much.

Would you rather quit or get fired and why.

I'm thinking quit as fired looks worse on resume....I can handle losing unemployment as I can wait/bartend no problem and make same amount of money within a week or two. Been with company only 4 months and what would you put on resume for reason to leave?

Thanks
 

Drako

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Find another job first, then quit.

Depending on your financial situation, if you can't find a job, wait to be fired and you can collect unemployment.
 

ShreddedWheat

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"seasoned" yeah that is funny actually

Audit is in about 4-5 days! Got plenty of money in bank to cover mortgage for 6+ months easy! Wife makes good money.
 
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Drako

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"seasoned" yeah that is funny actually

Audit is in about 4-5 days! Got plenty of money in bank to cover mortgage for 6+ months easy! Wife makes good money.

Then I would just quit - sounds like you're in good shape financially. Me personally would try to avoid the stress and just find a better place to be.
 

D1gger

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pre-empt the emotional and mental stress and exit on your own terms.

This.

I would also provide a written record to the highest level of management that you deal with and explain why you believe the audit will fail and what you see as the solution to the problem. You never know, they may listen.
 

Perknose

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After failed audits they put me in charge...understand my immediate boss has failed twice and his boss has failed twice. So I'm basically in charge of what my immediate boss should be in charge of.

Unless you are not accurately portraying this situation (which I consider likely), YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE by going above their heads to the capo de tutti capi, the big cheese, the head gorgaonzola, THE MAN, and making your case.

Why just quit in shame and resignation without doing this? That is, if your story is to be believed.

There is no way we will pass as my supervisors are lazy and incompetent and don't do their jobs. I can't fire them as there is no way that I could have trained and replaced them in 30 days time.

Worst case, you fire your worthless supervisors that are causing you, so you say, to put in 80 hrs/wk and who will never get better and replace them with new blood who will also cause you to put in 80 hrs/wk while you bring them up to speed but can't really be worse than what you have and who will, if you chose correctly from among the many, many, many, many good and qualified people who desperately need jobs in this economy, soon enough make your life and your job tolerable.

Be imaginative. Don't mindlessly hire based on narrow, specific previous experience. Hire based on your assessment OF THE PERSON as one who is willing and able to adapt and learn and do the job under your guidance. There are tons of good people out there right now. Fire your dogs and hire a couple.

But . . . why do I get the idea that you are full of shit and not telling us the whole story?

Hmmmm, maybe it's because you casually mention your wife has kicked you out of your home and you're living in a motel but she is "on board" with your career decisions as if you have some kind of strong, unclouded future with her.

It's the internet, I could be wrong.

Or
. . . you could be <insert rest of sentence here.> :sneaky:
 

jlee

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Understand that my wife "had" asked for divorce a month ago, I've been disowned by inlaws and kicked outta the house and living in motel.

Wife doesn't mind too much if I quit as long as I can make the mortgage payment of new house which isn't much.

huh?
 

olds

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Would you rather quit or get fired and why.
Neither. I'd be glad I was working 80 hours a week so I could keep my mind off the wife. (leaving the house and staying in a motel is a whole other issue)
But, I'd go over my managers head and tell whoever is in charge that you needed to get rid of the other two if you and the restaurant or going to succeed.
What are they going to do if they don't like it, fire you?
 

olds

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Originally Posted by ShreddedWheat View Post
Understand that my wife "had" asked for divorce a month ago, I've been disowned by inlaws and kicked outta the house and living in motel.

Wife doesn't mind too much if I quit as long as I can make the mortgage payment of new house which isn't much.
 

KeithTalent

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Unless you are not accurately portraying this situation (which I consider likely), YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE by going above their heads to the capo de tutti capi, the big cheese, the head gorgaonzola, THE MAN, and making your case.

Why just quit in shame and resignation without doing this? That is, if your story is to be believed.

Yep, definitely agree with this. If the only options are quit or be fired, then why the heck would you not at least attempt to talk to someone higher up. There's always a chance you could save things by doing this as working hard, according to your OP, has not been enough on its own.

KT

Edit: yeah, what about the divorce stuff. Seems kind of odd that you would even mention it if it was not some sort of ongoing issue. :hmm:
 

jlee

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Originally Posted by ShreddedWheat View Post
Understand that my wife "had" asked for divorce a month ago, I've been disowned by inlaws and kicked outta the house and living in motel.

Wife doesn't mind too much if I quit as long as I can make the mortgage payment of new house which isn't much.

Why does it matter what his wife wants? Apparently she's divorcing him anyway.
 

ShreddedWheat

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Wife is supportive of me leaving the job and saving the marriage. I plan on going to the top with my concerns but unfortunately the job is based on the good ole boy club. The director of ops used to work for the regional mgr. and the ops mgr used to work for the dir. of ops. mgr. I think they are looking for a fall guy and that is me on this audit; ops mgr's butt is on the line with this audit too. I do plan to go to the top of the company with my concerns when I leave. The entire restaurant is under camera survelliance which would clearly show my case if they decided to look into it further. I figure that working 40-60 hours a week above minimum wage would be near what unemployment would pay for the most part. If I fired the supervisors I would be looking at working 4am till 10 pm 7 days a week. I already have to wake up at 2 am just to get to work at 4 am.
 

Farang

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Have sex with your wife's sister. Hop on the next plane to Uruguay. Use credit cards to finance a little bar/BBQ joint on the beach in one of the surfing towns along the coast. Find a nice, corruptable Catholic girl. Ditch the creditors and live happily ever after.
 

melly

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There is rumor that I will be fired regardless of passing as the supervisors who are lazy are tired of being held accountable and are spreading lies and it is easier to fire one mgr than to lose 2-3 lazy ones.

Consider the source before you think of quitting or getting fired.

How do rumours get started? Started by the jealous people, as they get mad that something they had, now somebody else is holding...

In any case, sounds like a pretty messed-up situation. I am not sure I could tolerate working in an environment like that. Were you hired to clean up the mess (as in, was that the ONLY reason)? Don't automatically assume that you will get fired. Go to work, do your job, and concentrate on that. If your heart isn't in it, then leave with your head up.
 

ShreddedWheat

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Melly,

Great point. Actually I worked for the corporate company of the restaurant that I managed. I did a great job and was actually going to be one of the fastest promoted GMs in the company but my district mgrs got promoted to higher regions and a GM got promoted to District Mgr. New DM decided to hire his friends instead and I got left on back burner...got hurt on vacation and let go on disability.... his friends failed and he was forced to fire them after I had already left....got picked up with company that had franchise location within their restaurant system (current job).
 

melly

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Melly,

Great point. Actually I worked for the corporate company of the restaurant that I managed. I did a great job and was actually going to be one of the fastest promoted GMs in the company but my district mgrs got promoted to higher regions and a GM got promoted to District Mgr. New DM decided to hire his friends instead and I got left on back burner...got hurt on vacation and let go on disability.... his friends failed and he was forced to fire them after I had already left....got picked up with company that had franchise location within their restaurant system (current job).

...what I don't understand is why this chump won't clean up the mess himself and fix the problem once and for all. Either he is lazy, refuses to accept responsibility, or trying to deflect blame from himself because him and his buddies "fudged" the books for their own benefit if you get my drift.
 

BoomerD

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"seasoned" yeah that is funny actually

Audit is in about 4-5 days! Got plenty of money in bank to cover mortgage for 6+ months easy! Wife makes good money.

Did you & the wife resolve your problems?

If you can, find a new job before you quit. It's always easier to find a job when you have one than to find one when you're unemployed...
 

bobdole369

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Dunno bout ur state but in FL if you quit a job (without illegal discrimination, et al) you forfeit any claim for unemployment compensation.

Getting fired isnt the end of the world, happens to everyone. As long as it isnt stealing or something, it can be explained.
 

1sikbITCH

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You could just say "to hell with it" and have the supervisors to the restaurant for a working lunch, and while they are eating you take the cover off the last tray to reveal your wife's head and say "I hope she tasted great!" and up comes the sawed-off and BLAM BLAM BLAM their heads explode all over the restaurant walls!

Yeah! :twisted:

But quitting the job to save the marriage would be nice too I guess.
 

chusteczka

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Perknose provides excellent advice. If you know that you can fix the problems, then do everything you can to fix them. This is your chance to prove yourself. Go above your supervisors, show their supervisors that you are better qualified than your supervisors to handle this situation. Make a plan, get rid of your supervisors, assume their responsibilities, make changes, and succeed.

Or you can give up and be fired. Thereby washing down the drain all that hard work you have made to get where you are.

They are testing you. Man up, take the responsibility, clean house, and fix the problem.

Of course, this is always easier for me to say than for you to do. But do it!
 

Hail The Brain Slug

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You could just say "to hell with it" and have the supervisors to the restaurant for a working lunch, and while they are eating you take the cover off the last tray to reveal your wife's head and say "I hope she tasted great!" and up comes the sawed-off and BLAM BLAM BLAM their heads explode all over the restaurant walls!

Yeah! :twisted:

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