Joe Miller of Alaska -- Unemployment is for me not for you!

[HumblePie]

I reluctantly and surprisingly side with Craig here.

I'm collecting unemployment right now because it's there. I don't need it, but I'm eligible so I damn well am going to take it. I'm against unemployment as it currently exists, and if I could scale it way back, require working part time for the state to collect in order to incentivize getting a real job, or put some other limiting feature on it I would. But until the system changes, thanks for the free money. I enjoyed my almost 7 month paid vacation at the expense of the working stiff. Hell, I've been making the equivalent of a $15/hr full time job sitting on my ass and trolling this forum, which is more than a lot of people make busting their ass day in and day out. And I don't feel the least bit guilty because this is exactly the way all the bleeding hearts want it to work.

Not sure about your state but...

Here in Texas the max payout for unemployment is about $400/week. That's about a little over minimum wage. About $10 an hour.

But to reach that, you had to be making quite a bit per hour. This is because those that make more normally put in more money into the system. Also there is a huge list of qualifiers to get unemployment insurance. The biggest being you have to be "let go" from your job. If a person quits a job they are not eligible. If a person is fired for performance reasons they can not get it.

It was also capped at a max of $10K and there is some minimum work you have to do. Every week I had to log on to the Texas Workforce commission website and show that I was doing at least 3 job related search activities per week. Which includes applications, interviews, and fares. I have to put on applications that I was on unemployment so that employers were suppose to notify the Texas Workforce Commission in the event they offered me a job. Because if I turn down a job offer I would lose unemployment.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Wrong. Employers pay into it for Federal and most state programs. Employees do not pay any premium or tax for FUTA and don't pay in all states.

You are correct. My mistake there. My point was that UI is basically an insurance rather than a free handout to the unemployed.

 

[Lanyap]

You are correct. My mistake there. My point was that UI is basically an insurance rather than a free handout to the unemployed.

Yes, it's insurance normally paid by the employer in the form of a tax to cover the first basic 26 weeks of UI. Extended UI is paid by federal and state funds which is what Miller was against. His wife was paid basic UI for a short time because she only worked for a couple of years. I'm not seeing the conflict here.

 

[BoberFett]

Not sure about your state but...

Here in Texas the max payout for unemployment is about $400/week. That's about a little over minimum wage. About $10 an hour.

But to reach that, you had to be making quite a bit per hour. This is because those that make more normally put in more money into the system. Also there is a huge list of qualifiers to get unemployment insurance. The biggest being you have to be "let go" from your job. If a person quits a job they are not eligible. If a person is fired for performance reasons they can not get it.

It was also capped at a max of $10K and there is some minimum work you have to do. Every week I had to log on to the Texas Workforce commission website and show that I was doing at least 3 job related search activities per week. Which includes applications, interviews, and fares. I have to put on applications that I was on unemployment so that employers were suppose to notify the Texas Workforce Commission in the event they offered me a job. Because if I turn down a job offer I would lose unemployment.

I get $585/wk plus $25/wk from some other kind of jackassery that was put in place by congress. So $610 a week for 26 weeks is almost $16,000. I just ran that out so I went on the state website, logged in, clicked a couple buttons and out popped a 20 week extension. If I rode this thing out I could make more sitting on my ass for a year than a lot of single mothers and their children have to live on working full time jobs.

No, the Democrats are right. It's a great system. Don't change a thing.

 

[Phokus]

I reluctantly and surprisingly side with Craig here.

I'm collecting unemployment right now because it's there. I don't need it, but I'm eligible so I damn well am going to take it. I'm against unemployment as it currently exists, and if I could scale it way back, require working part time for the state to collect in order to incentivize getting a real job, or put some other limiting feature on it I would. But until the system changes, thanks for the free money. I enjoyed my almost 7 month paid vacation at the expense of the working stiff. Hell, I've been making the equivalent of a $15/hr full time job sitting on my ass and trolling this forum, which is more than a lot of people make busting their ass day in and day out. And I don't feel the least bit guilty because this is exactly the way all the bleeding hearts want it to work.

You're absolutely pathetic and a disgrace. You're like those tea baggers who harp against 'BIG GUBMINT' but would absolutely flip their shit if medicare went away.

 

[BoberFett]

The difference is that I wouldn't "flip my shit" if the system went away right now. I'd simply go find a job. But while it's here I'm going to take advantage of it.

Oh, and nice thread bump for a callout. What a pathetic loser you are.

 

[Phokus]

The difference is that I wouldn't "flip my shit" if the system went away right now. I'd simply go find a job. But while it's here I'm going to take advantage of it.

Oh, and nice thread bump for a callout. What a pathetic loser you are.

As i said before, you're delusional if you think you can sit on your ass all day and just pick one up on a whim. It's hilarious how you think you gamed the system when you just screwed yourself over.

 

[Lemon law]

HeeHEE HEE, Joe Miller has to be a real steaming turd to lose a write in campaign to the incumbent GOP senator, but from the current Alaska results I have seen, it looks like Miller and the Tbags have manged to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.

Looks like the Palin endorsement backfired in Alaska, and Alaska voters know Palin best of all the relative worth of a Tbagging Palin. Color it quitters never win. Lisa did not quit.

http://www.care2.com/causes/politics/blog/murkowski-miller-recount-update/

 

[BoberFett]

As i said before, you're delusional if you think you can sit on your ass all day and just pick one up on a whim. It's hilarious how you think you gamed the system when you just screwed yourself over.

I haven't screwed anything. It's losers like you who think people are helpless. I choose my own fate.

When I'm ready to get a job, I'll find one. It's as simple as that.

 

[Lemon law]

I haven't screwed anything. It's losers like you who think people are helpless. I choose my own fate.

When I'm ready to get a job, I'll find one. It's as simple as that.

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Lots of luck Bobber, good jobs are now as rare as hens teeth, and as long as the USA policy outsources American jobs overseas, everyone in America loses. Its the new American reality.

 

[manimal]

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Lots of luck Bobber, good jobs are now as rare as hens teeth, and as long as the USA policy outsources American jobs overseas, everyone in America loses. Its the new American reality.

barbara bachman just called boober and said hes lazy and living off the tit of the taxpayers...

 

[BoberFett]

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Lots of luck Bobber, good jobs are now as rare as hens teeth, and as long as the USA policy outsources American jobs overseas, everyone in America loses. Its the new American reality.

*shrug*

I've been talking to a company off an on for the last month or two about a potential contract that would earn me 25% more than I making before I got laid off, even after taking into account additional self-employment taxes.

It'll happen eventually, I'm just not in a hurry to go back to work as long as Uncle Sugar keeps paying me to stay home. Maybe when the snow falls I'll push to get things going. It has just been such amazing weather this summer and fall, I'm glad I got to take advantage of it.

 

[BoberFett]

barbara bachman just called boober and said hes lazy and living off the tit of the taxpayers...

I suppose that's possible, but anytime the Republicans talk about decreasing unemployment benefits, those pesky Democrats keep defending my money.

Hey, if you want to throw your money away, I'm not going to stop you.

 

[umbrella39]

Just another politician, surprise surprise. Yet the Teabaggers eat this turd sandwich and claim it's something different.

LOL... same shit, different sandwich. Very nice and very true. The nut huggers need to wake up and realize they have been duped.

 

[dammitgibs]

Wow this is a dangerous mindset to think "if I accept government benefits then I can never criticize them"

We're fucked.

 

[Slew Foot]

Wrong. Employers pay into it for Federal and most state programs. Employees do not pay any premium or tax for FUTA and don't pay in all states.

That and UI lasts for 24 weeks. After that it comes out of federal taxes.

 

[Thump553]

I get $585/wk plus $25/wk from some other kind of jackassery that was put in place by congress. So $610 a week for 26 weeks is almost $16,000. I just ran that out so I went on the state website, logged in, clicked a couple buttons and out popped a 20 week extension. If I rode this thing out I could make more sitting on my ass for a year than a lot of single mothers and their children have to live on working full time jobs.

No, the Democrats are right. It's a great system. Don't change a thing.

Suffice it to say that it is NOT people like you that made America great. You couple an absolute lack of moral values with an aborrent work ethic and the sad thing is you think your conduct is acceptable, even normal.

 

[fskimospy]

Suffice it to say that it is NOT people like you that made America great. You couple an absolute lack of moral values with an aborrent work ethic and the sad thing is you think your conduct is acceptable, even normal.

But he's livin' large on $15 an hour! Whoooo! This way he gets to be lazy AND poor! Not only that, but he gets to prove some sort of point to internet nerds (that isn't supported by population wide empirical data) and troll tech forums.

Boberfett is truly one to be envied.

 

[BoberFett]

Yawn.