Joel Osteen finds a way to look even worse than he did before.

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Perhaps but they make it an art form they are so good at it. Lots of practice I guess I'm rarely hypocritical but if I catch myself I correct myself so.
 

BurnItDwn

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As an atheist, I am disgusted by the behavior of Joel Olsteen. It breaks my heart to see other atheists scamming the world and pretending to be holy rollers just for the sake of separating fools from their money.
 

kage69

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But people staying in my church would put me afoul of erm zoning laws! It's only built to withstand short stints of synchronized masturbation, this whole 'people showing up outside of service and not giving money' is a flagrant violation of its architectural design and usage parameters!

What you do guys think this place is, a stadium?

Poor Little Finger.
 
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bshole

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Words of wisdom from God's servant on earth...

“You know I really believe in these times of difficulty it's, for me, certainly not the time to question your faith but to turn to your faith, because God is the one that gives you the strength to make it through the difficult times," Osteen said. “We are not going to understand everything that happens but, you know, having a 'poor old me' mentality or 'look what I lost' or 'why did this happen', that's just going to pull you down. Like we've been talking about all night, you just got to turn it over and say 'God, you're still on the throne.'”
 
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Joel is worth millions. Why the need to ask for donations? It just makes him look bad. I'm not jealous of his success. I just think that since he's in a great position that he shouldn't be asking for donations.

Not defending Joel here - believe me, fuck that retard.....

But I have to ask a legit question - What church DOESN'T pass around a collection plate? I haven't been since I was little, but I remember they passed them at any and every church - so why would they make an exception?
 

jayzds

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I am guessing that it was at his church when it was acting as a shelter where people who lost a lot their home, personal items, or can't go home. The plate usually would be handed out after a service on a Sunday.
 

Ajay

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What's wrong with correcting a wrong or bad behavior when you are shown to be acting said way? You rather I just stay true and own my hypocrisy I was pointed out on?

Oh, didn't know someone already point it out. Apologies.
 
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Thump553

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Not defending Joel here - believe me, fuck that retard.....

But I have to ask a legit question - What church DOESN'T pass around a collection plate? I haven't been since I was little, but I remember they passed them at any and every church - so why would they make an exception?

You won't find a collection plate at a mosque or a synagogue-I guess both those religions took the story of Jesus driving the money changers out of the temple seriously. Mosques will have a collection box but it is off to the side, very unobtrusive. On certain holidays (primarily those involving charity to the poor they may have someone holding the charity box. Jewish congregations tend to have annual dues, as do some smaller christian sects.

I'm interested in the concept of religion but not particularly religious but I think it is a mistake to judge christianity based on the behavior of the mega church sharks. They are entertainers in religious garb..
 

sdifox

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You won't find a collection plate at a mosque or a synagogue-I guess both those religions took the story of Jesus driving the money changers out of the temple seriously. Mosques will have a collection box but it is off to the side, very unobtrusive. On certain holidays (primarily those involving charity to the poor they may have someone holding the charity box. Jewish congregations tend to have annual dues, as do some smaller christian sects.

I'm interested in the concept of religion but not particularly religious but I think it is a mistake to judge christianity based on the behavior of the mega church sharks. They are entertainers in religious garb..


Jews are supposed to give ten percent of their income to the synagogue.
 

bshole

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Athiests truly understand the value of life.

Our sole purpose in life is to pass on our dna, just like every other organism. A purpose rendered meaningless in the context of a solar system, galaxy and universe destined for extinction.
 

bshole

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Jews are supposed to give ten percent of their income to the synagogue.

No, that money is given to God. The synagogue is just the middle man. They collect the money and then give it to God in person.... cuz God needs to buy a new car or something..
 

JSt0rm

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Our sole purpose in life is to pass on our dna, just like every other organism. A purpose rendered meaningless in the context of a solar system, galaxy and universe destined for extinction.

A moment enjoyed isnt a moment wasted. You dont need to be nihilistic to be an atheist.
 
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bshole

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A moment enjoyed isnt a moment wasted. You dont need to be nihilistic to be an atheist.

You don't choose to to be nihilistic. It is the same condition as belief, it just happens to you. I am nihilistic and I loathe being this way. Unfortunately my program has made me this way and there is not a damn thing I can do about it. It perplexes me that some atheists can be happy knowing the utter meaningless and temporary nature of existence. I wish I had been born with that capability.
 

JSt0rm

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You don't choose to to be nihilistic. It is the same condition as belief, it just happens to you. I am nihilistic and I loathe being this way. Unfortunately my program has made me this way and there is not a damn thing I can do about it. It perplexes me that some atheists can be happy knowing the utter meaningless and temporary nature of existence. I wish I had been born with that capability.


You just need to push past that. I take comfort in knowing I wont exist. Let me ask you a question. What is the perfect state to spend eternity in? I say the perfect state is non existence. Ive been doing it for an eternity already. And after this rich rewarding life I've had I will go back to the norm. Why be depressed about it? Think of all the random x or that had to happen to give you this life. Fucking enjoy it.
 
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