What is this thread about?
politics!
stick to the topic guys!
AMD has been going under a lot of restructuring so people are going to leave either way.
Think you mean mettle...
Though I do have an amusing picture in my mind of someone in a red jumpsuit screaming out, "Look, look, you cannot deny the existence of my tin! Is not its luster and weight proof enough???"
I then wonder if he'll conclude to "fix" Bulldozer/Piledriver architecture, or just to build something new altogether.
Given his pedigree, I doubt he has long term plans to fix Bulldozer, etc. He will like propose a new uArch. It could be CMT still, if he is confident that it can be done right. I personally expect to see SMT in the future, as well as some totally new uArch features.
If they do go this route - what sort of time frame would they be looking at until something is ready for a release? 4-5 years??
good to see ya bruddah...I also got banned for a few weeks at a time for daring to say that on the balance of probabilities, Bulldozer was going to be a dud and that IPC would be lower than Thuban.
However I think the appalling moderator in that case, may have actually been in love with JF-AMD.
His conduct was the worse I have ever seen on mainstream forums, by a company representative.
And most ludicrous of all, is how much information his supporters must be blissfully ignorant of, to not see his despicable behaviour.
AMD's engineers at a Hot Chips convention stated that one of their primary goals they were working on with Bulldozer was to minimise IPC loss, with the clear inference being that there was going to be some IPC loss.
This was publicly stated months before Bulldozer was released, yet JF-AMD kept insisting that IPC would be better than Thuban's.
Back on the thread topic, from what I read the last few days John Fruehe is not the only one no longer at AMD. Sounds like CEO Rory is cleaning house.
Was anyone brought back to work in the "high end" Desktop CPU division?
One person doesnt make a company tho. Plus AMD is alot smaller these days, alot of people fired or moved on. Just look at Intel, 1900+ Ph.Ds working on the process node research alone.
AMD is fabless now, so I don't quite get the Ph.D. reference. Intel is superior now (well, always has been) for many reasons. For one example, I don't think Intel has ever had a CEO as naive (or arrogant?) as Ruiz.
It was just an example since I knew the exact numbers there. But looking on R&D alone. Intel most likely got 5-6 Ph.Ds to design a CPU when AMD got 1. Not to talk about the resources avaliable to the teams.
True that! I root for AMD periodically only out of financial self interest. I don't want a decent CPU to cost me $600. I'd happily pay that much for a great CPU, but not just for a decent one.
You should play the lottery instead.
And CPU prices wont change. Intel got zero competition and they price their CPUs right now for the perfect price/volume/profit ratio. Higher price=less volume that then turns to lesser profit.
Innovation wont change either.
Politics, economic ideologies, industrial policy, corporate culture are all related subjects. What seems to be taken for granted is AMD losing so of its engineers in short period of time as part of a restructuring is automatically a good thing.politics!
stick to the topic guys!
AMD has been going under a lot of restructuring so people are going to leave either way.