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Pohemi

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Yeah I am the douchebag when this guy is saying fascism is deserved for people that need to be convinced, inspired, or spoken to at all in order to vote for Biden.

You've lost the plot for a while, with your non-Stop laughing emojis at posts, But thanks for hammering it home finally with your words.

I lost no plot, in fact I've comprehended and understood what others have said FAR better than yourself. You've fabricated things and misrepresented/misconstrued what others have said throughout this entire thread. Then you double and triple down on your own misunderstanding. Then you project it on everyone else.

When somebody says these people deserve fascism yeah I get mad. It's a really fucked up statement I hope you agree. He doesn't agree with me I don't agree with him.

I'm so sorry I don't get along here with anyone saying oh these people deserve fascism if they really dare question Biden at all and need any inspiration even no matter how disillusioned or ignorant they are. Fuck those people

Case in point. Nobody said any of this. It is entirely you misrepresenting and exaggerating other's words.

You created the thread just to instigate arguments.
Yes. You are the douchebag.
Now shut the fuck up, you big baby.
 
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MrSquished

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This is hilarious. In a previous thread I was saying that I know good people I care about that could use some inspiration because Biden has such negatives, which I acknowledge are partly media driven. I've always acknowledged the media is shitty to the Dems and Biden. Some of these people just don't pay much attention to politics as they are so fucking busy with life, or they are so disillusioned by this country, and don't have much exposure to more than some mainstream media, and then that guy dank literally says 'well they all deserve fascism'

That's super fucking insulting, rude and messed up. So I get mad, and then half of y'all shit on me as the troublemaker, so yes I get pissed. Cause y'all have a hard on for me because I can be rough around the edges. But this happens a lot. Then you have people saying I have given Biden no chance to win. Nobody can quote me on that and I've always maintained he has at minimum at 50/50 shot at winning, and this was before Trump started mixing up Haley and Pelosi, and killing the border security bill, and more.

On top of that I've always said I would support Biden, but I feel the best way to approach disillusioned checked out people or people who just don't see what is really going on due to just seeing some mainstream media sources, but are certainly not voting for Trump, is to acknowledge Biden's weaknesses and disappointment the Dems, as one of the two major political parties, could not find one single person that was better than Biden. And then explain well, there is no choice but to vote Biden, he is a good decent person that has done good things, dealt with a biased media, and Trump is pure evil. Yet I'm still attacked for not supporting Biden. Even in this thread attacked for potentially supporting a third-party candidate. WTF?

Then another guy attacked my original post for not know what the fuck was going on with Stewart. Turns out he actually agreed with me, but didn't read all of my original post. So he was attacking me because he thought I didn't get what Stewart was doing. Then more people shit on me saying 'I don't get it', agreeing with him. Turns out, didn't read my original post completely, attacks me based on something that didn't exist, and yet I'm still the asshole. Still more people are arguing that Biden was and is definitely the Dems first choice to run, when in reality he wasn't. Just because I can acknowledge the negatives around Biden, the few cultists here get so fucking mad they make shit up that I'm saying, and even reality itself. I've also been attacked multiple times for saying I'm trying to encourage reaching out to MAGA. Never done that. Always said this is about shoring up Dem support and reaching out to the disillusioned and moderates/independents.

Pohemi has a huge hard on for me. It's pathetic. Dank thinks people I told him I care about deserve fascism, because they need a little nudge. And I'm the dick because I respond.

Y'all need to self-examine. I know I can be rough around the edges but SOME of you, I'd say like maybe 10 people, have a giant hard on for me they give everyone else a pass to be misleading about what I believe in, or insult people I care about, or what not. And seriously, some of you are in a cult of Biden. Even though I have always been solid that I will vote for Biden and encourage everyone to do so, and am in fact volunteering my time to do so, when I criticize Biden for anything IN A FORUM OF POLITICAL JUNKIES, people just attack me and put words in my mouth about who's side am I on. I'm not talking to a bunch of moderates here, you are supposed to be progressive and be able to handle criticism of your own party within the context that we are still all going to vote for Biden and encourage people to do so and it's a matter of good vs evil, but the reality we live in is that due to the fucked up media world we live in and success of right wing propaganda and some weak Democratic messaging, we may have to acknowledge criticism of our candidate in order to talk to people to inspire them.

Fucking rich.
 
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MrSquished

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Case in point. Nobody said any of this. It is entirely you misrepresenting and exaggerating other's words.

You created the thread just to instigate arguments.
Yes. You are the douchebag.
Now shut the fuck up, you big baby.

Honestly you are one of the worst on here.

I've always said we have to get everyone to the polls, not just in swing states, but in every state for every single downballot election, even in states that go blue federaly. And some people need some encouragement/inspiration when they already know Biden is going to win in their state. Still need them to get out and vote for every other position.

literally when I said this

You don't know people. Young people need to be inspired. I know people in my family, lifelong, and friends of 5 to 30 years, who are all Democrats to progressives, they are all not happy about Biden. Intelligent and successful people, 90% have a college degree and many have post-graduate degrees. Have you ever heard of 'shoring up the base'? This is reflected in polls among Democrats? And you think they are not safe to walk among us? This is a chunk of the base brother. You would be silly to ignore them and label them as loons.

he basically says they are all loons and deserve what's coming, they are not safe to let them walk among us. Not just the good people I know, but anybody he knows that is not as enlightened as us here right now.

This is what I mean. People who are holding out for "inspiring" are lunatics. 100% not safe to let them walk among us.

I do know people. I know young people who need to be inspired. In this political climate, they are lunatics. I'll label them how I see fit. I don't care about persuading people to stop being lunatics. If people want to let democracy die for some nonexistent ideal, choo choo motherfuckers, I'll see you on the other side.

Pohemi, you did the same shit in multiple threads. Your boner love for me has really gotten out of hand. You deny what people say and then a couple times I post proof and you just refuse to respond and just post laughing emojis at all my posts cause you ain't got shit, and you are wrong, as we see above.
 
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Pohemi

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All those laughing emojis on your posts? They are there because those posts are hilariously ridiculous.

"I'm right!! You're wrong!!"

And no, you haven't posted proof of your claims until this last post of yours. You've repeated that people have said this and that, and provided barely any quotations. You were more interested in facetiously exaggerating (or misconstruing) what those people actually said.

Now shut the fuck up, crybaby.
 
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dank69

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you just called Jon Stewarts show an abortion and deserved to be draggged because he criticized Biden. ...
First sentence and you're already misrepresenting what I said, with something I just explicitly explained I did not say.

One more time, in crayon, not that it will be enough to help you:

Criticise Biden while simultaneously explaining that not voting for Biden is a vote for fascism? No problems.

Criticize Biden without that context? You are making the world a worse place than it is. Full stop.

Jon Stewart made the world a worse place with that last show.

I like how you listed his resume like he is beyond reproach. Who is worshipping an idol here, you or me? I wonder what Stewart's thoughts are on Israel. I've got news for you, as smart as he is and as much good as he's done, he still holds some shitty antiquated views on some issues.
 

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The Santos fallout is a little bit of the same, and the similarities between the camps might be inversed but the principle the same, you wanna keep your guy in for one kind of race and out of the other… Difference is of course one guy, Trump, dont give a shit and struts all over the board, dems are a little more strategic.

But Biden is widely unpopular, make no mistake about it.

 

manly

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The constant, and I do mean constant, complaints from you about how bad Biden is and how Democrats are doomed with him at the helm.
The latest Emerson College poll on Friday shows Biden outperforms other prominent Democrats. His age is clearly an issue to voters, but we need to be honest and admit there is no Barack Obama 2.0 on the sidelines to vault to the top of the ticket on a moment's notice.

The Hill - Biden performs better against Trump than Harris, Newsom: Poll

Interestingly enough, the additions of RFK Jr. and Cornel West/Jill Stein into the mix doesn't sway the end results much.

As an aside, we shouldn't confuse MrSquished for the likes of gotNOhuevos.
 

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@manly

I wish we had a younger candidate, on all sides. But it ain't happening. That's reality. Biden does have a good chance of retaining his position as POTUS. And I'd rather have an old Biden than any Republican at this point. It's that bad.

I've been on record that I have voted for Republican candidates in the past, but considering the current state of the GOP, I can't in good conscious vote for any Republican candidate at this point in time.
 

MrSquished

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@manly

I wish we had a younger candidate, on all sides. But it ain't happening. That's reality. Biden does have a good chance of retaining his position as POTUS. And I'd rather have an old Biden than any Republican at this point. It's that bad.

I've been on record that I have voted for Republican candidates in the past, but considering the current state of the GOP, I can't in good conscious vote for any Republican candidate at this point in time.

Well I've never not said I didn't want an old Biden over ANY SINGLE gop candidate. that's the funny thing.

I have the quotes for this paragraph quoted above:

Imagine, someone says to you after you say you know good people that just need some words of encouragement and inspiration to definitely go out and vote for Biden (because he actually has some serious flaws) and they say - I know some young people like that, they are all loons and don't deserve to walk among us. I respond to that passionately. I'm the asshole. Imagine, you simply dismiss any independent or moderate or disillusioned democrat or someone who simply is not too politically aware, only gets news from some mainstream sources do just doesn't know certain things, who could use someone to acknowledge Biden's flaws and make a few points and they could be convinced ; and you say they do NOT DESERVE TO WALK AMONG US. That is a damning statement. And they are still arguing I'm the dick because I said that is nuts.

Fucking wackadoos that agree with that. No respect for those people at all. Zero.

What thread did this argument spread over from?

Above is the synopsis of what was said to me. I have the relevant quotes by dank in this thread not many posts back, direct quotes. Some people have a stick up their ass when it comes to me because I've said some mean things, oh and also I kept harping on @fskimospy to simply ADMIT the truth of what he said, and he wouldn't. That's right, I did keep bringing it up because the guy was incapable of simply admitting a really simple thing, he finally did though.
 
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Pohemi

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What thread did this argument spread over from?

Any of them where squishy started ranting about Biden supporters refusing to admit his faults, or supposedly minimizing any efforts to find a replacement, or not caring about interviews enough, or just not being rabid enough against "the enemy". Take your pick. Here's a few right before he started this thread:




Found these simply by searching for his favorite phrase, "pseudo-intellectuals". It's pretty much the same rants when he's using that terminology.
 
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dank69

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Biden haters need to understand this.


We know Biden can win. I interpreted his historic vote total more as a referendum on Trump than a result of Biden's overwhelming popularity in 2020. Since then, there have been several developments that I imagine can only have made overall public opinion of Trump MUCH worse.

Jan 6th. Do we think this improved or damaged public opinion of him?

Feeling the effects of losing Roe. Pretty sure it's accepted that this is a huge loser for Republican popularity by now.

91 indictments, $500M lost so far in court, and likely prison sentences in his future. How's this helping his popularity? Are we expected to believe Trump has increased his election chances by being caught with Nuclear secrets next to the copier in the shitter?

On the flip side, I know Biden's popularity is being dragged daily by agitprop, like Hillary before him, and Obama before her, and Bill/Al before them, etc. etc. Like his predecessors, nothing they've dragged him with has amounted to anything more than smoke and mirrors.

He has a handful of accomplishments he can point to for every single ignoramus that insists "what have you done for me?" is an important question in the current political climate. I'm harsh on this because expecting a Democrat to accomplish anything with a GOP controlled House is a BIG ask. If Biden had not passed a single piece of legislation his entire term, I literally would not have held that against him as a negative.

All that said, Biden will likely win, and win handily against Trump assuming there are no major scandals between now and November. We can't say that for any of the other candidates on the long list provided. The best we can say is that they might win. You need to appeal to, or at least not disgust, a huge array of demographics, many of which often act quite irrationally on specific issues. We know Biden has cleared that hurdle.

Going with anyone other than Biden would be a huge, unnecessary gamble with the fate of the entire country on the line. People who want something better than Biden would be better served by getting way more Democrats elected down ballot so they get actual legislation passed. Biden isn't going to veto progressive policies that land on his desk.
 

dank69

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Well I've never not said I didn't want an old Biden over ANY SINGLE gop candidate. that's the funny thing.

I have the quotes for this paragraph quoted above:

Imagine, someone says to you after you say you know good people that just need some words of encouragement and inspiration to definitely go out and vote for Biden (because he actually has some serious flaws) and they say - I know some young people like that, they are all loons and don't deserve to walk among us. I respond to that passionately. I'm the asshole. Imagine, you simply dismiss any independent or moderate or disillusioned democrat or someone who simply is not too politically aware, only gets news from some mainstream sources do just doesn't know certain things, who could use someone to acknowledge Biden's flaws and make a few points and they could be convinced ; and you say they do NOT DESERVE TO WALK AMONG US. That is a damning statement. And they are still arguing I'm the dick because I said that is nuts.

Fucking wackadoos that agree with that. No respect for those people at all. Zero.



Above is the synopsis of what was said to me. I have the relevant quotes by dank in this thread not many posts back, direct quotes. Some people have a stick up their ass when it comes to me because I've said some mean things, oh and also I kept harping on @fskimospy to simply ADMIT the truth of what he said, and he wouldn't. That's right, I did keep bringing it up because the guy was incapable of simply admitting a really simple thing, he finally did though.
Once again, it is your reading comprehension that needs help, even though that's a favorite insult of yours against others. I never said they don't deserve to walk among us. I said it isn't safe to let them walk among us, because they are dangerously ignorant. You read into that to mean I think they shouldn't be allowed to walk among us or don't deserve to...

Everyone has a right to be dangerously ignorant. We can't even do anything to them after their ignorance elects someone like Trump. We need to just smile as we take it up the ass.

Now, if you haven't plowed your entire ego balls deep into this misunderstanding, maybe we can let this go for the sake of forum sanity, yeah?
 
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manly

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Biden haters need to understand this.


We know Biden can win. I interpreted his historic vote total more as a referendum on Trump than a result of Biden's overwhelming popularity in 2020. Since then, there have been several developments that I imagine can only have made overall public opinion of Trump MUCH worse.

Jan 6th. Do we think this improved or damaged public opinion of him?

Feeling the effects of losing Roe. Pretty sure it's accepted that this is a huge loser for Republican popularity by now.

91 indictments, $500M lost so far in court, and likely prison sentences in his future. How's this helping his popularity? Are we expected to believe Trump has increased his election chances by being caught with Nuclear secrets next to the copier in the shitter?

On the flip side, I know Biden's popularity is being dragged daily by agitprop, like Hillary before him, and Obama before her, and Bill/Al before them, etc. etc. Like his predecessors, nothing they've dragged him with has amounted to anything more than smoke and mirrors.

He has a handful of accomplishments he can point to for every single ignoramus that insists "what have you done for me?" is an important question in the current political climate. I'm harsh on this because expecting a Democrat to accomplish anything with a GOP controlled House is a BIG ask. If Biden had not passed a single piece of legislation his entire term, I literally would not have held that against him as a negative.

All that said, Biden will likely win, and win handily against Trump assuming there are no major scandals between now and November. We can't say that for any of the other candidates on the long list provided. The best we can say is that they might win. You need to appeal to, or at least not disgust, a huge array of demographics, many of which often act quite irrationally on specific issues. We know Biden has cleared that hurdle.

Going with anyone other than Biden would be a huge, unnecessary gamble with the fate of the entire country on the line. People who want something better than Biden would be better served by getting way more Democrats elected down ballot so they get actual legislation passed. Biden isn't going to veto progressive policies that land on his desk.
I didn't read your link, but this is extremely relevant. If we wanted someone other than Joe Biden, we needed to have that conversation 10 months ago, not now.

If Biden stepped aside, it would almost certainly be a health issue. But whatever the reason, it would throw the Democratic race into chaos. The filing deadlines in most states is already past, so there is no clean transition to contested primaries. And unlike a century ago, you wouldn't just have party insiders gather in a smoke-filled room and anoint the Plan B nominee. If not Joe Biden, it would be uncertainty for months until the Democratic convention.
 

MrSquished

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Once again, it is your reading comprehension that needs help, even though that's a favorite insult of yours against others. I never said they don't deserve to walk among us. I said it isn't safe to let them walk among us, because they are dangerously ignorant. You read into that to mean I think they shouldn't be allowed to walk among us or don't deserve to...

Everyone has a right to be dangerously ignorant. We can't even do anything to them after their ignorance elects someone like Trump. We need to just smile as we take it up the ass.

Now, if you haven't plowed your entire ego balls deep into this misunderstanding, maybe we can let this go for the sake of forum sanity, yeah?

You also said they were loons which implies they're crazy and unreachable. And then by saying they're not safe or deserve to walk among Us. Even if you just said not safe, You're saying these people are fucking dangerous and unreachable and that's really horrible too. It's completely insane either way you said it or meant it. Try to understand what your fucking words mean. I literally know a number of people who are really disillusioned and disappointing with the Biden thing and just don't know politics like I do. I mean they're absolutely not Republicans. And you tell me they're not safe to walk among us. nuts. These people are very safe to walk among Us. These are the people you need to be a part of society and you need to fucking reach out to them.

I was saying, And very reasonably may I add, That we should reach out to people who are not 100% onboard.

That's literally all I was saying and you went off calling them loons and that they're such unsafe people. Whatever you said it was still fucking nuts, And insulting, And damning about these people.

It's an absolutely nutty way to think about such an important election.

You fucking made dumbass and very insulting statements about people, And of which I said I specifically know some of them, so why don't you own up to them brother?

You can't cuz you're clearly fucking incapable. And you have a little small fan club of a few people that have a hard on for me.

The same ones that were telling me I was not understanding what the guy was saying about Jon Stewart. When he didn't even read my post and I could only take it one way.
 
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Just imagine thinking that reaching out to people not totally onboard with the Biden train, and who I specifically mentioned are moderate to left-leaning, regardless of the reasons why, are unsafe to walk among us (super fucking crazy talk and a damning statement), they are loons, and basically insulting me for being super reasonable and saying we need to reach out to all these people with honesty. And that does include acknowledging some things that make Biden a bad candidate in general, to get them to vote no matter what state or city they live in. We want turnout in every goddamn race this election. For every downballot election, even for dogcathcher.

And people are going off on me for being the one that wants to reach out to people and calling the attitude that these people are unsafe, loons and not to bother with them pretty goddamn nuts, WHICH IT IS. This is fucking rich. Keep doubling down, you look insane.

If Pohemi and Dank and a few of the other nutfucks that have a hard on for me want to apologize, go ahead. I doubt it. It's like talking to a cult at this point.
 
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You also said they were loons which implies they're crazy and unreachable. And then by saying they're not safe or deserve to walk among Us. Even if you just said safe, You're saying these people are fucking dangerous and unreachable and that's really horrible too. It's completely insane either way you said it or meant it. Try to understand what your fucking words mean.

I was saying, And very reasonably may I add, That we should reach out to people who are not 100% onboard.

That's literally all I was saying and you went off calling them loons and that they're such unsafe people. Whatever you said it was still fucking nuts, And insulting, And damning about these people.

It's an absolutely nutty way to think about such an important election.

You fucking made dumbass and very insulting statements about people, And of which I said I specifically know some of them, so why don't you own up to them brother?
I did own up to those statements. People who aren't voting against Republicans with every fiber of their beings are lunatics. No matter how much someone avoids politics, they've heard countless very bad things about Trump. Things only a lunatic would ignore.
 
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Just imagine thinking that reaching out to people not totally onboard with the Biden train, and who I specifically mentioned are moderate to left-leaning, regardless of the reasons why, are unsafe to walk among us (super fucking crazy talk and a damning statement), they are loons, and basically insulting me for being super reasonable and saying we need to reach out to all these people with honesty. And that does include acknowledging some things that make Biden a bad candidate in general, to get them to vote no matter what state or city they live in. We want turnout in every goddamn race this election. For every downballot election, even for dogcathcher.

And people are going off on me for being the one that wants to reach out to people and calling the attitude that these people are unsafe, loons and not to bother with them pretty goddamn nuts, WHICH IT IS. This is fucking rich. Keep doubling down, you look insane.

If Pohemi and Dank and a few of the other nutfucks that have a hard on for me want to apologize, go ahead. I doubt it. It's like talking to a cult at this point.
There you go again. Nobody is going off on you for reaching out. They're going off on you for acting like a different kind of lunatic. One that hits the nuke button in response to someone accidentally stepping on your toe.

If shitting all over me makes you feel better then knock yourself out. I'm going to keep pointing out when you misconstrue my words though.
 

MrSquished

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There you go again. Nobody is going off on you for reaching out. They're going off on you for acting like a different kind of lunatic. One that hits the nuke button in response to someone accidentally stepping on your toe.

If shitting all over me makes you feel better then knock yourself out. I'm going to keep pointing out when you misconstrue my words though.
Nope all I did was say what you were saying was nuts. After saying it quite reasonably to you and you kept doubling down.

I called out your dumbass statement and a few of the regular morons got upset.

I mean dude read the fucking conversation.

Also That wasn't an apology. Read the thread figure out the order of things and how they happened. It's not that hard.

You think it's insane to reach out to people who may not be convinced to get out the vote for Biden. People that would never vote for Trump or most Republicans if any at all. In fact you think it's not safe they walk among Us.

All I did was call that out and got attacked for it. Maybe cuz I called it stupid or dumb? And I only did that after you doubled and tripled down on it . Are some people offended by those words?

Your point was literally stupid and dumb in a critical election. Sorry if I hurt your feelings by using the correct words to describe it after trying to convince you otherwise reasonably.
 

Pohemi

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This is your problem. Whether or not he agrees, you just can't let it go.

Nobody is white knighting him "because they have a hardon for you". Stop playing the victim. People start ripping into you because you start being unreasonable, but you can't admit that. And you can't tolerate anyone disagreeing with you on anything, god forbid.

Fuck off already.
 

dank69

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Nope all I did was say what you were saying was nuts. After saying it quite reasonably to you and you kept doubling down.

I called out your dumbass statement and a few of the regular morons got upset.

I mean dude read the fucking conversation.

Also That wasn't an apology. Read the thread figure out the order of things and how they happened. It's not that hard.

You think it's insane to reach out to people who may not be convinced to get out the vote for Biden. People that would never vote for Trump or most Republicans if any at all. In fact you think it's not safe they walk among Us.

All I did was call that out and got attacked for it. Maybe cuz I called it stupid or dumb? And I only did that after you doubled and tripled down on it . Are some people offended by those words?

Your point was literally stupid and dumb in a critical election. Sorry if I hurt your feelings by using the correct words to describe it after trying to convince you otherwise reasonably.
Okay, let's look at the tape.

My first post in this thread, a joke post:
Jon Stewart:


My second post:
I'm glad to see Stewart catching a lot of shit for this abortion of a launch.
Nothing in either of those directed at you. Both solely commenting on Jon Stewart, the topic of this thread.


Here is your "reasonable" response to my second post:
Yeah there are a bunch of Snowflake irrational liberals like you. I've seen plenty of well-measured responses to you people. Anybody who has followed Stewart knows that he is just setting the stage to contrast the two candidates, But by being realistic he'll be able to reach out to moderates and independents. Also the shit about biden's age is true too. Too many liberal snowflakes prefer to obfuscate that. The guy is just not ready for public appearances, It's way too unsteady.

And you're the guy who says well we don't need to bother reaching out to people that need to be inspired to vote this election, They deserve fascism, which means we all get fascism.

Even with that guy Getty posting your train of thought is that fucking dumb. It's Getty level dumb.

And that's fucking saying something.
 
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