Jon Stewart Stepping Down!

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I agree. I also think that Oliver stretches way too hard to draw relevant points out of non-issues, perhaps just to fill time.

However, I think his show picked up steam midway through that first season. It's pretty good now, and I watch it whenever it is on. I think it started to get good when he did the Qatar story--most of his other featured pieces up until then had been rather put-on.

Okay, time to fess up: I've never seen a full episode of John Oliver's show. I just watch the stuff he posts on his YouTube channel. The highlights are okay.

What made Colbert the best for me was that it was almost never completely serious -- it made his points/arguments easier to swallow and seemed to allow for more comedy/entertainment. I am also incredibly sarcastic and put on acts all the time, so his style clicked very well with me. Jon Stewart, I like him, but he's on the serious side.

Larry Wilmore, I never really liked his spots on the Daily Show. For regular "correspondents", Al Madrigal and Jessica Williams are great. Kristen Schaal and Lewis Black are the best non-Jon people
 

zinfamous

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They are going to fire Fallon and get Stewart in there. Should of done that with Leno too.

that would be awesome.

Fallon is terrible. I actually came around to liking Fallon at some point, but I can't stand him after a year of this (granted, I've seen maybe....8 shows, but it's the same shit over and over)

He doesn't tell jokes, he has no wit. his entire schtick is: "Stuff was cool when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s!" That's horrible.

I wish they would give the gig to someone like Craig Ferguson or even Stewart. ...imagine: Colbert vs Stewart vs Networks.
 

zinfamous

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At least, that's all I've gathered from the snippets available on Youtube. I'd like if HBO would be so good as to offer a reasonably-priced, ad-free, Internet-only subscription option.
And Hell's purchasing department just bought some blankets and space heaters, just in case.


The benevolent overlords of Comcast offered me this pretty snazzy upgrade from shit-ass 3/1mbps and nothing else ($40), to 25/5mbps and all HBO ($50) a year ago, and I took it. It's pretty rad.

No HD, but it gives me access to HBO GO. well...terrible app, that one: quality, dependability, etc...but when it works, it's great.
 

KeithTalent

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John Oliver's show is better anyway. I do miss Colbert though.

KT
 

TheAdvocate

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Damn. End of an era. As MarkXIX said:

This sucks. I have grown accustomed to getting my shitty news with amazing satire. It somehow makes swallowing it easier each day.

I have to admit, I was surprised at just how hard his announcement hit me. Felt a little bit like losing a friend. I identified with Jon because he was as incredulous as I was at the daily load of bullshit foisted on us by politicians and the media (all of it, too - I'm looking at you CNN). Maybe I'm still a little raw from Colbert leaving and that exacerbated it. The bottom line is that their two shows where the best hour of TV just about every day they were ever on.

And no offense to Larry Wilmore, but no. John Oliver's show is great because it's short, canned, once a week, no guests (terrible interviewer), and he has great writers. No way he could carry TDS long term. I just dont see a worthy succesor to either. End of an era.
 
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z1ggy

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I'm kind of pissed. Even though I think Stewart did get very biased on certain issues at times, I felt like it was a less filtered and actually eye opening insight into a lot of political and social issues going on today.

I don't think anybody else will be able to fill his roll the way he did it. He was able to put politicians on the spot and ask them the tough questions.
 
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It's the opposite. I think most of his dedicated viewers understand that his show is comedy. The people that criticize him the most--the fox viewers--are the ones that take him too seriously.

They refuse to be in on the joke, I guess. Legendary conservative lack of humor to blame?

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that being said, I think a lot of his viewers do depend on him for news, and I think the reason for that is the terrible state of media. The Daily Show is 100% editorial--it interprets news through Stewert's perspective, but more than news, is openly and endlessly critical of the rest of media (Stewert doesn't even consider himself media--he is satire)

People wouldn't turn to him as a news source if they felt they weren't being mocked by the world of "legitimate news."

Stewert works so well only because his target of ridicule is boundless.



Bravo indeed good sir
 

felang

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I don´t think it´s fair to compare Stewarts format to Olivers. Stewart has 5 shows per week dealing with current news headlines. Oliver´s show is once a week, so he can pick and chose what content to actually focus on, needs less filler, etc.

Stewart is the greatest interviewer ever.
 

CZroe

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Oliver, Colbert, and Stewart... GONE. Who does Viacom have left? Some MTV VJ?!
 

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motsm

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maybe they link to his clips, because funny? and, maybe, you want them to be linking to them as news?

just a thought.
Some do, but when they specifically tell you otherwise, then it puts holes in your theory. I have had multiple friends and acquaintances do just that, and I've read it dozens of times on the net, and it's not something I search out. Denying it exists just make you look like even more of an ideologue.

As for what Jon himself does, I don't really care, it's just how those aforementioned fans can interpret his shtick, so I'm glad to see him go. Not that it makes much of a dent in all the biased media out there.
 

Ns1

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They are going to fire Fallon and get Stewart in there. Should of done that with Leno too.

lol. such comments are never based on facts.

The Tonight Show proper—the version that the National Broadcasting Company airs every weeknight after your local news—is not only No. 1 in late-night, it’s also up in the ratings. Yes, up, as in higher than it was in Jay Leno’s hands the year before. Which is all backward: When the 40-year-old Fallon took over in February, Leno’s graying viewership was supposed to bolt at the sight of this new kid, and the young audience Fallon had courted during his Late Night years was supposed to be too busy Snapchatting to sit in front of a TV. “The ratings are almost, like, double,” says Fallon, full of pride if not math. Among the all-*important 18–49 demo, average viewership is 31 percent higher
 
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BoberFett

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I think its more likely that something new will replace the show, probably on another network or the internet. Stewart was way bigger than TDS or that format. You cant just plug someone else in.

What Stewart brought to the show was passion. The show was personal for him, he's disgusted by US politics. You'd have to find someone with that level of passion for political discourse (or lack thereof) PLUS a sense of humor. That's not an easy combo. Look at who else is already in that space elsewhere. Maher is pigheaded and divisive. Lewis Black is too angry and more not really all that funny. Dennis Miller is too conservative for that crowd, and some would argue he's not funny either.
 
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