I don't expect you do and there are moron drivers and pedestrians everywhere.
But we are talking about uncontrolled crime in NYC. I mean that has nothing to do with anything.
Yeah I don't mind people wanting to commit suicide but not via my car please.. kindly leave me and my wife alone!
I had a green light and it just went across me.. sorta like that really bad crash in Brooklyn a week or 2 ago that was all over the news.
I got to say the truth.. we got lucky.
I'm totally choking out the next drunk long island idiot on the subway who starts mouthing off.What crime did Neely commit on the subway besides annoy people and display erratic behavior?
PTSD is not a "veteran exclusive" condition.
Having PTSD is not a blame reduction card.
Conversely, where some may excuse his actions due to PTSD...there's also the flip-side that the guy is a trained deadly weapon. He had the knowledge to do real damage, and should have had the knowledge NOT to. IMHO he knew what the end result would be.I absolutely get the relationship
I just reject using it as global assumed crutch everytime someone who happens to be a veteran fucks up.
Well duh...of course that's what they'd be saying. They're already turning this killer into a hero FFS.Conservative media is saying the 15 minutes is a lie.
That Neely was freed and placed in a recovery position seconds after going limp. After he stopped fighting / resisting.
So because of your own anecdotal experiences that others in NYC have refuted being "the norm", you believe it is okay to murder someone for being loud, because criminals in the city are "out of control". You are justifying his killing by talking about the supposed/apparent actions of others.I for one am grateful someone showed the criminals they're not invulnerable...
....So I'll just support vigilantes as a juror if I get called!
And you think it's okay to murder someone for invading your personal "bubble" on public transport. If he had been, "flailing with uncontrolled aggression", don't you think he'd have likely have been touching if not hitting other people? All accounts given so far have said that's bullshit.What you call erratic behavior is invading other people's space and flailing with uncontrolled aggression to others.
relatedThis really ticks me....
PTSD is a blame reduction card because WE forced it on them.
Did we ASK them to go into live battle where they are living on there toes every min.
Not able to get any deep sleep on top because you got officers who love to harrass the hell out of you in whats called training at odd hours to get in full battle situation.
Being pitted behind sandbags while rounds of AK are flying over your head.
Watching your once dining buddy at the mess hall go home missing a leg because he stepped on an IED.
HOW DARE YOU...
I fully support my verterans, i support the people who went out there to die for what we call freedom, and sometimes im really sad if its what they really wanted to fight for. If i even see a Veteran Wife at the market, i'll pay for her groceries, only because my buddy is also in that group.
Dont pretend to know PTSD.
No i dont support him killing the guy.
But at the same time i don't think its his entirely his fault, as again, any type of stimulus can SNAP a PTSD soldier into doing what he was trained to do which is a full on suppression, especially if he's attained the rank of Sgt.
If he wanted to kill Needy, he didn't need to choke hold him, he would of snapped his neck like training, or used other more deadly suppression methods.
Incase you didn't also know. Sargent is the highest Non Commission Ranked a person can get.
Meaning he was one hell of a Marine for attaining it.
Calling out you and your party’s racism doesn’t make homerjs racist. You are still the racist.
That's not even funny.Well he had to murder this guy because being annoying is part of the Biden crime wave.
You are one crazy racist.
You are one crazy racist.
If i hate marsians and flat earth people, does that make me raciest?
Are they even considered a race?
If i hate marsians and flat earth people, does that make me raciest?
Are they even considered a race?
Speciast!I'm 20 planets to the left of AOC so how do you feel about Trans Neptunians?
Here's a question. Think Marines teach non-lethal restraint? That likely would have been appropriate for 15 minutes.The prolonged use of the chokehold was egregious even if you make the argument that the guy was acting erratic and was being pre-emptively restrained. Which I don't think is even a legal argument, but I understand where it would be coming from.
Have you ever been put in a chokehold? When done correctly, you pass out within seconds. There was plenty of time to release the hold and otherwise restrain the guy. This was 15 minutes of no blood flow to the guy's brain.
What message does this send? That you can just kill someone because you felt threatened? Someone looked at you the wrong way? Accidentally bumped into you?
Look I understand the guy was saying crazy shit and IMO I would probably have had no problem if he just been restrained after the hold was released...but 15 minutes is just crazy. I know conservatives hate the homeless but I didn't believe they thought it was ok to indiscriminately kill them off.
Then again, that one RW pundit did say "be prepared to kill everyone you meet," so that kind of gives you an insight into their psychology. And if this is what they think of mentally ill and/or homeless people (some of the most vulnerable in our society), do you think they care about the rest of us?
Is that run possible in less then 12 parsecs? (No i don't have a Millinium Falcon.)I'm 20 planets to the left of AOC so how do you feel about Trans Neptunians?
You don't know much about the military, do you?Incase you didn't also know. Sargent is the highest Non Commission Ranked a person can get.
Meaning he was one hell of a Marine for attaining it before being again HONORABLY discharged.
Meaning they retired him out of his age and the fact he was a NCO.
Yeah, I made ET2 (equivalent to sergeant in the Navy) in a bit over 2 years. While that's fast, it shows you it's not that big of an accomplishment.You don't know much about the military, do you?
Sergeant is an E-5 in the Marines, there's still E-6 to E-9 above that (which are all variations on sergeant). All you have to do to hit E-5 is be in long enough and keep your nose clean, it's nothing special.
No, a reasonable person would wait till there is an concrete indication that he intends to cause an act of mass violence. Did he physically attack anyone? Did he have a weapon? Did anyone feel threatened enough to call 911 before Penny took the situation into his own hands? Maybe he didnt consider it "murder", but for a marine to hold someone in a chokehold for 15 minutes, they certainly should know that is life threatening. BTW, he is not being charged with "murder" anyway, right? Manslaughter seems like an appropriate charge to me. New York does not have an "involuntary" manslaughter charge. It is divided into first or second degree. First degree is when a person intends to cause serious physical injury, but instead causes death. Second degree is when one "recklessly" causes the death of another. Penny's actions clearly meet this criteria.Nobody involved believes Daniel Penny intended to murder anyone.
Except perhaps you. Perhaps read the full op before posting spin.
Daniel Penny tried to control the situation. Marines are not trained to control situations. They receive an entirely different type of training. The outcome is sad, but lets not ignore what the dead man said:
"big life sentence"
"it doesn’t even matter if I died"
To a reasonable person, that sounds like the prelude to an act of mass violence. Mass shooting. Etc. They happen every day in this country. Daniel Penny is in a NY subway car, most people are not going to flee effectively. Daniel Penny is likely one of those unable to flee effectively. With the information presented to him, the least bad choice is to engage and neutralize the threat to everyone on the subway car, as he was trained.
I am no legal expert, but based off of that, I question if their is a jury of New York subway riders that are going to be found that are going to convict Daniel Penny of anything.
That's not even funny.
The fact we have to share the same oxygen as millions of people like Felix is also not funny at all. It's actually a serious problemNeither are extrajudicial executions for non-capital offenses.
It isn't funny at all but it's the spin of you people. So Fuck Off.That's not even funny.
We could start a version of that thread for just Felix's posts.Doesn't this belong in the every accusation is a confession thread?
Neither are extrajudicial executions for non-capital offenses.
Make another for geekbaby, and we could start a pool on which one fills faster.We could start a version of that thread for just Felix's posts.
Lol you got caught being real and now you're pissed.It isn't funny at all but it's the spin of you people. So Fuck Off.