Journalist from Chicago beheaded by ISIL

dmcowen674

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8-19-2014

http://news.yahoo.com/isil-beheads-american-photojournalist-iraq-205910443.html


Islamic State promises to 'drown all of you in blood'


Video claims to show ISIL beheading American photojournalist


A video posted by ISIL terrorists purports to the show the beheading of an American photojournalist who has been missing since 2012. The group claims the beheading is a message to President Obama to end the American intervention in Iraq.

James Foley was a photojournalist who has worked for a variety of news organizations. He was working at Agence France-Presse's company GlobalPost when he went missing. According to a website set up in his honor, he went missing while covering the conflict in Syria in 2012. His disappearance was ruled a kidnapping by the FBI.
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Warning for UK viewers

England has gone off their Rocker even more than the U.S.

This thread is illegal there.

England folks don;t even look at the video, they say you are committing a Felony just looking at it or sharing it too.

8-21-2014

http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/0...utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

UK Police Warn Sharing James Foley Killing Video Is a Crime



Scotland Yard has warned internet users they could be arrested under terrorism legislation if they viewed or shared the video of James Foley's murder


We would like to remind the public that viewing, downloading or disseminating extremist material within the UK may constitute an offence under terrorism legislation.



Twitter and YouTube attempted to remove all trace of the footage from the web. Twitter suspended dozens of accounts that published the graphic footage while YouTube tried to remove several copies of the video, which was first uploaded on Tuesday night. Twitter CEO Dick Costolo tweeted:


"We have been and are actively suspending accounts as we discover them related to this graphic imagery."
 
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Thebobo

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I dont need to see it.

Guess Ferguson was hogging all the headlines and they didn't like that.
 

Paratus

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I dont need to see it.

Guess Ferguson was hogging all the headlines and they didn't like that.

More like the Kurds coupled with US bombing, (and tacit Iranian approval), is actually taking a toll on ISIS.
 

blankslate

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Unfortunately, the current situation happened because what was a fairly known situation was upended and put into chaos. Don't get involved with the ME unless you absolutely positively have to.

A lesson we should have learned from when FDR got us in there just after WWII

It's probably why aide to the Kurds was limited to airstrikes (and perhaps small arms) in their apparently successful effort to take the dam back.


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Jaskalas

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That Religion of Peace at it again.
You want American troops in there to get revenge?

Best revenge we can take is to invoke world wide condemnation of them. To isolate them. To reach out to Muslim Americans and work together to ensure ISIS has no home here. That they would not be welcomed here, and that the Muslim community would snitch on them.

When we are not a safe harbor for terrorism then terrorists lose much of their effectiveness. We can shape our domestic policy to ensure that they are not welcomed here. However, that will not happen if we wedge a divide between ourselves and Muslim Americans. If we don't trust each other to work together for peace, then violence will find a way in. ISIS would hide among our "enemy".

Best way to protect Americans is to ensure that Muslim Americans are not the enemy. Your commentary falls short of this.
 

JumBie

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Its just IS (Islamic State) now. Also, journalist and photographers who head out into these dangerous places are well aware of the many situations that can occur. Its like having a photographer take photos of great white sharks and then having people cry wolf when hes killed by one. IS is not anyone but the middle east problem right now, this would not be happening if Britain and France did not split up the middle east into separate territories.
 

Ns1

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It was not the first time Foley had been taken captive. While covering the Libyan civil war in 2011, he and two other journalists, American Claire Gillis and Spaniard Manu Brabo, were held for 44 days by forces loyal to the late Libyan strongman Moammar Kadafi. A fourth journalist, South African Anton Hammerl, was shot and killed when the others were captured near the eastern city of Benghazi.

In a taped interview with the Boston Globe following his release, Foley explained why he felt the need to go back to a war zone.

O_O
 

sportage

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Well, maybe we'll get the chance to dust off and use a few of our nuclear arsenal on this group.
I think most everyone would be in favor of that.
Including al-Qaeda.
Just turn them into white ash, like they never knew what happened.
We can only hope.
 

Pneumothorax

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Well, maybe we'll get the chance to dust off and use a few of our nuclear arsenal on this group.
I think most everyone would be in favor of that.
Including al-Qaeda.
Just turn them into white ash, like they never knew what happened.
We can only hope.

Bring on the modern day crusades, then again, just nuke the whole effin worthless place.
 
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Well, maybe we'll get the chance to dust off and use a few of our nuclear arsenal on this group.
I think most everyone would be in favor of that.
Including al-Qaeda.
Just turn them into white ash, like they never knew what happened.
We can only hope.

That's an awfully casual attitude you have to the use of nuclear weapons.
 

Caveman

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if they know they will get beheaded, why not go out with a fight?

Agreed. This is just weird. Would anyone say the things he said, knowing you're about to get your head cut off...? Unless they told him that they'd spare his life if he just "did the speech"... Then, they kill him. Sad world.
 

BeeBoop

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Agreed. This is just weird. Would anyone say the things he said, knowing you're about to get your head cut off...? Unless they told him that they'd spare his life if he just "did the speech"... Then, they kill him. Sad world.

How about being tortured for two years? I'm more curious as to why they didn't show the actual beheading and instead decided to edit it out? Another question is, who did the editing? Does the terrorist group know how to edit? If not, maybe they used a journalist to do the editing, and just maybe there is a type of Morse code hidden in the edit.
 

TechBoyJK

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How about being tortured for two years? I'm more curious as to why they didn't show the actual beheading and instead decided to edit it out? Another question is, who did the editing? Does the terrorist group know how to edit? If not, maybe they used a journalist to do the editing, and just maybe there is a type of Morse code hidden in the edit.

ISIS isn't a joke. Can they edit video? Fuck yes they can. While the bulk of their army is angry cavemen, ISIS management has proven they could run a fortune 500 company. They're educated, determined, and organized.
 

Pr0d1gy

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I'm more curious as to why they didn't show the actual beheading and instead decided to edit it out?

It's a fake, a psyop meant to trigger your now implanted fears. Ignore it and go about your life and be happy. It's good that you are critical of the things you see on your TV and the internet. Stay aware.
 

thraashman

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Unfortunately, the current situation happened because what was a fairly known situation was upended and put into chaos. Don't get involved with the ME unless you absolutely positively have to.

A lesson we should have learned from when FDR got us in there just after WWII

It's probably why aide to the Kurds was limited to airstrikes (and perhaps small arms) in their apparently successful effort to take the dam back.


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Point of order here. FDR died April 12, 1945. VE day was May 7, 1945. VJ day was August 14, 1945. Thus FDR was not alive just after WWII.
 

z1ggy

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How about being tortured for two years? I'm more curious as to why they didn't show the actual beheading and instead decided to edit it out? Another question is, who did the editing? Does the terrorist group know how to edit? If not, maybe they used a journalist to do the editing, and just maybe there is a type of Morse code hidden in the edit.

I have not seen the vid (nor do I really want to) but I read they showed the beginning of it, with the ISIS guy cutting into his throat, then it fades out, then comes back in when his head sitting on top of his dead body.

Must be a terrible way to go getting your head cutoff your body with a small knife...*shudders*
 

Apple Of Sodom

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I've seen a fair share of beheading videos. This one looks fake.

No blood is seen when he starts cutting into the throat. Camera quickly fades and shows a head on the body. There is barely any blood anywhere, none on the ground. It is all very quick.

Fake video. It didn't even turn my stomach. The handful of other videos made me ill. This one, not so much. It looked like a low budget horror flick.
 

Remobz

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You want American troops in there to get revenge?

Best revenge we can take is to invoke world wide condemnation of them. To isolate them. To reach out to Muslim Americans and work together to ensure ISIS has no home here. That they would not be welcomed here, and that the Muslim community would snitch on them.

When we are not a safe harbor for terrorism then terrorists lose much of their effectiveness. We can shape our domestic policy to ensure that they are not welcomed here. However, that will not happen if we wedge a divide between ourselves and Muslim Americans. If we don't trust each other to work together for peace, then violence will find a way in. ISIS would hide among our "enemy".

Best way to protect Americans is to ensure that Muslim Americans are not the enemy. Your commentary falls short of this.

I disagree. NO matter what you do there will ALWAYS be evil Muslim Americans from within. Nothing you can do about that. Right now you have many Muslim sympathizers and wannabe terrorists breeding from within the USA. This is a fact if past experience has anything to do with it.
 

LookBehindYou

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Agreed. This is just weird. Would anyone say the things he said, knowing you're about to get your head cut off...? Unless they told him that they'd spare his life if he just "did the speech"... Then, they kill him. Sad world.


My understanding is that he probably went through numerous mock executions over the last two years. If you've been through reading the speach 20 times and havent been killed, would you think the 21st time is going to be different?

As for cutting away from the video as he starts to cut, my guess is that it was very messy, and given the fact that they are using a small knife probably made him look incompetant and retarded while doing it. They didn't want it to look like they were bumbling idiots that had difficulty cutting an American's head off.
 

blankslate

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This is a gruesome media tactic designed to get certain people riled up to invade the area again with ground troops and cost the U.S. even more lives and national treasure.

Limiting the U.S. actions to air support to help people in the area who are willing to fight has so far been successful. An example is the Kurdish troops taking back a major damn in Iraq.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28826349

Air Strikes will probably have to continue until all of IS owned artillery and armored vehicles are destroyed or an option for aid to Kurdish forces to allow them to match those armaments may have to be considered.


If there is another invasion their media strategy will be successful and they can say look Western powers want to control the M.E. just like Bin Laden did.



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Jaskalas

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I disagree. NO matter what you do there will ALWAYS be evil Muslim Americans from within. Nothing you can do about that. Right now you have many Muslim sympathizers and wannabe terrorists breeding from within the USA. This is a fact if past experience has anything to do with it.

There will be some bad people. The best way to deal with them, in America, is to get the Muslim community to side with us. To promote and empower peaceful teachings. To drive a wedge between Muslims and ISIS, not between Muslims and us.
 

Attic

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This is a gruesome media tactic designed to get certain people riled up to invade the area again with ground troops and cost the U.S. even more lives and national treasure.

Limiting the U.S. actions to air support to help people in the area who are willing to fight has so far been successful. An example is the Kurdish troops taking back a major damn in Iraq.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28826349

Air Strikes will probably have to continue until all of IS owned artillery and armored vehicles are destroyed or an option for aid to Kurdish forces to allow them to match those armaments may have to be considered.


If there is another invasion their media strategy will be successful and they can say look Western powers want to control the M.E. just like Bin Laden did.



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I haven't seen the video, but I follow the line you run here.


ISIS is intelligent enough to know the response to a beheading of an American. Result would not be for America to yeild. It would embroil many of us to drop the gdmn'd hammer on ISIS. So why do the video?


One of the most distubing thing to me is our media's absolute shock and awe and continual headliner of this story.
 
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