If it was the other way around ($1200 speaker w/ $200 cable) it would have been ordinary typical boring setup. This is an unique setup and attracts the crowd. That is one of the reasons why I decided to go this route.
Bold emphasis mine. You're convincing no one and being mocked in entirely different forums on AT for it. No matter how many times you wax poetic (pun intended) about that stupid cable, it's still a stupid cable and the improvements (yes, 'improvements' not 'changes') in sound quality are completely manufactured in your head. The proof is already in the thread.
I said it like 1500 times, that I am getting better sound (more detail pops and treble). It is giving me different sound signature as well. It's your loss that you can't accept the fact, that I am clearly getting better sound night and day difference. This isn't a little difference. It is massive, huge. This also means "MEGA".Bold emphasis mine. You're convincing no one and being mocked in entirely different forums on AT for it. No matter how many times you wax poetic (pun intended) about that stupid cable, it's still a stupid cable and the improvements (yes, 'improvements' not 'changes') in sound quality are completely manufactured in your head. The proof is already in the thread.
I told you over and over and over and over that I am not trolling.... The cable I spent $1200 on is real. I have the receipt. Can't give you my name and home address though. It's your loss if you don't believe what I said. I really spent $1200 on just one cable, that is 1.5 m long, full silver - Angel. Sydney cable ($180) was returned for a refund. And I don't work at a stereo store. It seems you are trying to troll now, not I.I'm still undecided on whether or not this is a troll thread. If I had to put money down, I'd say it probably is at this point. I'm guessing he works at a stereo store and borrowed one for a day, but doesn't actually own it.
It's not a matter of "at this point". There is no difference a week ago versus now. That is because I have the Angel cable, using it on my Macbook Pro with A2 speakers. Like I said, it's your loss that you don't believe I own the cable.I'm still undecided on whether or not this is a troll thread. If I had to put money down, I'd say it probably is at this point.
Well, that answers it. You're listening to an antenna and/or input/output rectification. If the better treble and more detail are not placebo, they're not a sign of fidelity .I said it like 1500 times, that I am getting better sound (more detail pops and treble).
Can you say loop antenna 3 times fast? Well, if a slow-talking southerner like me can, so can you. Shield+drain cables (whether the drain is part of the shield, or a normal added wire inside) have measurably worse noise rejection than shield-only grounding. You cannot separate shield and ground in single-ended, unless you custom build everything, making it all incompatible with COTS audio equipment. More conductors make better at picking up noise than shunting it.DOUBLE-BALANCED ASYMMETRICAL GEOMETRY: Purpose designed for single-ended applications, Double-Balanced Asymmetrical Geometry offers a relatively lower impedance on the ground for a richer, and more dynamic experience. While many single-ended cable designs use a single path for both the ground and the shield, Double-Balanced designs separate the two for cleaner, quieter performance.
Well I am not competing with the guy. I don't know who Patrick is. My thread has passion.Patrick82 was more entertaining
Well, there is more to it than just "detail pop" and "more treble". The sound is cleaner. Less or no distortion. The sound, or the "taste" of the treble is different too. Placebo my butt...... There is clear difference between the generic and these aftermarket high-perf cables.Well, that answers it. You're listening to an antenna and/or input/output rectification. If the better treble and more detail are not placebo, they're not a sign of fidelity .
I'm not cable engineer nor audio scientist. You are trying to pull some legs but it ain't happening. You know why? Because I am over 100% confident (as you can see how long I'm keeping my thread going). More like 1000%. This is because, I am getting major sound difference with the new cable. There is HUGE difference in sound (low to mid) with the Sydney. Angel with more mid and highs.Hmmm, lemme go look for the cable. Here we go!Can you say loop antenna 3 times fast? Well, if a slow-talking southerner like me can, so can you. Shield+drain cables (whether the drain is part of the shield, or a normal added wire inside) have measurably worse noise rejection than shield-only grounding. You cannot separate shield and ground in single-ended, unless you custom build everything, making it all incompatible with COTS audio equipment. More conductors make better at picking up noise than shunting it.
When I said detail pop, the element of musical instruments that I could barely hear (or coming far, far away) with generic cable I can hear them close to my face with Sydney and Angel. Most of the music is foggy with the generic. These mid / high-end cables clear that up. The distance of musical instruments being played change with these cables. That's one of the BIGGEST hunky dunky difference I'm hearing. I can't be totally sure yet if any musical elements are not present, pops out with the new cables though. Still have more listening to do.Straight recordings (the kind where they list the mics, preamps, ADCs, etc., before the performers in the credits ) can have a fair amount of perceptible detail, but not to any level that it will 'pop'. Most have been through so many NE5532s, that the upper end separation and detail has turned to mush (for rock music, where audible 2nd and 3rd harmonics are desired, this is often done intentionally, sometimes to extremes, even for well-mastered recordings, and is done for live performances, too). Even when the detail is there (nearly-unmixed organ, simple strings, classical guitar, Rush albums), if it 'pops out', it was either mastered that way (so it will happen to some degree on any system w/o bad frequency or phase response), or your system is creating artifacts.
Nor am I. I did, however, pass physics, and have a very light understanding of some basic electronic theory, and am consistently trying to expand that base of knowledge and understanding, as an interested amateur. Enough to effectively improve what I can hear, by paying attention to RFI issues, which are hardly inconsequential to audio (what does a pattern of HF rectification look like on the edge of your audio signal? Ringing, if it also causes some oscillation, and/or a super-imposed square wave). I have, along the way, come to love FETs for inputs, and learned keep all runs of wires as short as possible.Well I am not competing with the guy. I don't know who Patrick is. My thread has passion.
Well, there is more to it than just "detail pop" and "more treble". The sound is cleaner. Less or no distortion. The sound, or the "taste" of the treble is different too. Placebo my butt...... There is clear difference between the generic and these aftermarket high-perf cables.
I'm not cable engineer nor audio scientist.
No leg pulling. Just wondering if it's placebo, or distortion.You are trying to pull some legs but it ain't happening. You know why? Because I am over 100% confident (as you can see how long I'm keeping my thread going). More like 1000%. This is because, I am getting major sound difference with the new cable. There is HUGE difference in sound (low to mid) with the Sydney. Angel with more mid and highs.
That's what I mean, too. Last time I had that problem, it was the AD8397 being a typical PITA (it was a trendy opamp awhile back, but damn if it won't oscillate when you so much as look at it funny; and it's not like a have a >100MHz scope to look at it with, either). The time before that it was a cheap Chinese DAC that didn't do the I/V stage right (most DACs, for reasons I'm not sure of, but I'm sure are technical in nature, need an external circuit to make a nice clean voltage output, instead of doing it inside the chip).When I said detail pop, the element of musical instruments that I could barely hear (or coming far, far away) with generic cable I can hear them close to my face with Sydney and Angel.
We won't go spend that kind of money, either, for something that's obviously either wrong (intentional distortion) or placebo. Short IC cables are simply not rocket science (dealing up with all the hash in the air and on the mains, OTOH...), and there's nothing there that's going to beat copper cables hooked up to brass connectors. Not because they're the best, but because for a short run, there is a point where it's good enough, and as long as the cables are well-shielded twisted pairs, that point comes quickly, easily, and cheaply. Also, we might just realize how much cheap copper, brass, and nickel (or tarnished silver, depending on equipment age) cabling and connectors the signal has been through, along with all those oxides in semiconductors. If I land in a pile of money one day, I'm going balanced all the way. I could easily spend $5-10k, using plain old copper cables (if I had $5-10k to spend, that is).Most people that claim they make no difference is because they don't own those cables and sticking with their cheap monoprice cables thinking they are getting good sound. Yes, the sound is good out of generic cable. I never said they sound like crap.
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Uh that was uncalled for. D: Why am I an asshole? What did I do? Did I insult somebody?No they won't, they'll just think hes an asshole like we do here.
Guys, I just waxed my Angel cable again. Applied two additional coats of Brazilian carnauba wax. I took pics of actual wax on the cable this time. Wanna see em? Huh? ^_^
I can't believe I missed this thread.