Journey to Power Cable Project for my Audio system

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blackangst1

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Right. And it had nothing to do with FLAC vs WAV, according to you.
Update: Found the problem! AC noise of computer was infecting my amp and DAC plugged into the same outlet!
Skeptics always come and go.
And so do trolls. Youve just found your way to our board.

Ive read enough of your posts to make my own opinion of you. First, I think you have more money than intelligence. Second, I think you are delusional. You ignore science, and even per your own website, you say you tune your crystals "fine-tuned by ear to 0.01 gram accuracy". WTF does that even mean? You know youre not the first to come up with crystal theories, right? Youre nothing more than a snake oil peddler. You dont even understand the basics of audio. Meaning, the sound will only be as good as your weakest link. You take a $50,000 power cable and plug in a $800 laptop? Who the [heck] does that?

Look man. Im trying to be understanding and sympathetic, as many others have tried doing before on many other forums. But until you realize the flaws in your arguments, and until you can prove your theories with science and benchmarks, youre a hack. Plain and simple. Do I believe in your setup there are differences in your "Judge" power cable and two Genisises chained together? I believe YOU hear a difference. But that doesnt make it real.

To quote one of the posts you just linked me:
Stop asking audiophiles for their opinion and start asking engineers for the facts. Audiophiles are full of wrongheaded opinions that have no basis in reality beyond their own personal delusions. Ask engineers who design audio gear (make sure they're engineers who can be honest about the engineering and not engineers who are also the marketing department for the gear they make) and developers with a reputable computer science degree and you'll get a 100% consistent answer.
There is no difference between FLAC that is properly decoded and properly played and WAV that is properly decoded and properly played. To have a difference would turn computer science on its head.
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Lossless is lossless is lossless. But you can always "hear" a difference if you want to.

Please go away man. Seriously.
 
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cheez

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Use CMS40 because it gives better sound. It would be a waste of money to increase wattage and get worse sound. It's also better for the environment. Skeptics destroy the environment while the true audiophiles make the world a better place. This thread is the proof of that, just look at all the swearing by the skeptics, and pictures of large, power hungry systems. In the future, a mental hospital will be opened up for these people.
Thank you AudioTruth. I will not go with the AVI ADM9RS then. I'll likely to stick with either the CMS50 (it fills up my room better) or the 40.

Ha ha you said it so well about the skeptics and is all so true. This is why I put your quote in my signature. I just love it.

Cheez is in love with AudioTruth. :wub:
 

cheez

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Patrick your legacy lives on troll!
I see that you created an account just to troll my thread. I do not appreciate this. If you created a new account, I would suggest you browse the forum more and make valuable contributions to the community first for a few months. Get a recommendation letter from the moderators and administrator from anandtech forum. You can then post here. This thread is a high-level, although it's a bit funny. The first post of yours contained immediate personal attacks including profanity words. Please refrain from using such foul language.
 

AudioTruth

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Right. And it had nothing to do with FLAC vs WAV, according to you.
It did. In my first post in that thread I said "I think the problem is that FLAC takes 2-3% CPU power while WAV takes 0%."
I didn't have it confirmed yet.

Then I made an update and confirmed it. The computer generated more noise with FLAC playback, and this noise went back to the AC outlet, and infected the DAC and amp plugged into that same AC outlet. I was using Toslink to galvanically isolate the computer and DAC, but it didn't help.
Later I discovered that the best sound came when using multiple extension strips for the computer, and plug it to a different AC outlet far away from the audio system. When I did this, I was able to increase the power consumption of computer without it being as damaging to the sound. But it only worked with optical Toslink between computer and DAC.
 

modestninja

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AudioTruth, incredibly awesome post.

Cheez taking notes. Pen and paper.

No wonder I've been getting a lot of noise / distortion / degrade in signal. My HTPC has 6 hard drives and 5 of them are Raptor 10k rpm drives (full size drive, not the 2.5" version).

Guess what, I put my ear close to the speaker and heard "click" or "tick" or "pop" sound each time when the disc was being accessed.


Great point. No wonder my Audioengine A2 speakers sound so good in nearfield listening. And the CMS40 (has smaller amp than the CMS50) sounded better than the CMS50 I have now. One of my CMS50's is going back as it's defective (loud hum from woofer). Should I replace it with another CMS50 or should I go back to CMS40? I sold my laptop so I have more cash for speakers as well (in addition to the White Night Power cable i'm planning to get). I am thinking about getting the AVI ADM9RS speakers but they put out 325 watts (CMS40 - 100watts, CMS50 - 260watts). What should I do??? What would you do if you were me?

Can you please input. Thanks!

cheez

Why am I not surprised that you have raptors in your HTPC, let alone 5 of them? For all your expensive cables and other mumbo jumbo, you have huge glaring issues with your whole setup that would cost very little remedy and could have a measurable effect on your sound...
 

JAG87

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If people just stopped posting in his threads the troll would go away.

Now, lets see if my reply finally ends this thread.
 

AudioTruth

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Ive read enough of your posts to make my own opinion of you. First, I think you have more money than intelligence.
I don't have enough money to buy new clothes, I have worn the same jacket for 20 years, it has holes in it that I repaired. I rather save up the money and spend it on audio.

Second, I think you are delusional.
The one who hasn't tried something has the biggest chance of being delusional. There are thousands of audiophiles who can hear a difference in cables, and you want to boost your ego by pretending you are smarter than them.

You ignore science,
What you call science is something that is incomplete, and that makes it flawed. You need to know all variables at the same time, how everything interacts with each other. It's the same thing with jitter, even though the data is the same, the right data at the wrong time makes it wrong. Everything in audio are usually bit-perfect, but still sounds different because of a different timing. There are an infinite number of colorations in audio, and it's all because of the timing of data which makes up the final analog waveform that the ears hear.
, and even per your own website, you say you tune your crystals "fine-tuned by ear to 0.01 gram accuracy". WTF does that even mean? You know youre not the first to come up with crystal theories, right? Youre nothing more than a snake oil peddler.
It means that the crystal formula was fine-tuned by ear, and a difference in crystal weight of 0.01 gram was audible. When tweaking with quartz crystals, it's very sensitive.

You dont even understand the basics of audio. Meaning, the sound will only be as good as your weakest link. You take a $50,000 power cable and plug in a $800 laptop? Who the [heck] does that?
Because the $50,000 power cable gave me better overall performance for a lower price.

Look man. Im trying to be understanding and sympathetic, as many others have tried doing before on many other forums. But until you realize the flaws in your arguments, and until you can prove your theories with science and benchmarks, youre a hack. Plain and simple. Do I believe in your setup there are differences in your "Judge" power cable and two Genisises chained together? I believe YOU hear a difference. But that doesnt make it real.
It works both ways, you need to prove yourself that cables don't make a difference. But it won't work with the standard one dimensional tools, you need a multi-dimensional tool that can measure everything at the same moment of time. This tool doesn't exist yet.
 
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