Judge beating his daughter on video

[classy]

Blackmail suggests money or profit somehow. I think this issue came up because of his lack of taking responsibility for it...and he refused once again so she finally released it when he said "go ahead, if you'll feel better". In a sense this probably indeed was released to affect him and make him accountable, but blackmail?...I don't see anything supporting that.

Well thats not what she said.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/justice/texas-video-beating/

The 2004 beating occurred when her father was punishing her for using the Internet "to acquire music and games that were unavailable for legal purchase at the time," Hillary Adams wrote on the Internet posting. She said she released the video after being harassed by her father.

"It was the straw that broke the camel's back," she said Thursday. "It wasn't any huge happening or anything." She said she told her father she had the video, "and he didn't seem to think anything of it, and basically dared me to post it."

So in other words all this was going on and yet nothing huge happened, but it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Now she has been abused for years, been apart from him for 4 years, nothing big happened, but she just decides to release a video of belt thrashing. Oh after she told her dad about the video...........................

I just get tired of people who know things about other people, but yet won't say anything until it appears somewhat beneficial for them. I am tired of that. He was a sitting judge over family issues and you claim all this abuse for years and you did nothing. Save it, but I see those TV appearances are lined up.

 

[Ricemarine]

Well thats not what she said.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/justice/texas-video-beating/




So in other words all this was going on and yet nothing huge happened, but it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Now she has been abused for years, been apart from him for 4 years, nothing big happened, but she just decides to release a video of belt thrashing. Oh after she told her dad about the video...........................

I just get tired of people who know things about other people, but yet won't say anything until it appears somewhat beneficial for them. I am tired of that. He was a sitting judge over family issues and you claim all this abuse for years and you did nothing. Save it, but I see those TV appearances are lined up.

Maybe it's because if we tell them about it, they'll brush it off as bs. How's that?

Edit: After reading the CNN article you linked, it's very clear he considers her side as clear bs.

 

[Desin]

I haven't watched the video and probably won't. I did hear quite a bit about it on the radio driving to work this morning. It sounds like the daughter is a little shit who brought this up because he was cutting her off(car repo). I don't condone physical abuse, and if the video shows that he crossed the line into abuse, he should be punished according to the law.

On the topic of physical discipline; I was 'spanked' by my Mother/Father/Grandparents/School/whoever else I was with when I acted like a shit. A kid will remember a sore rear for much longer than a 5 minute 'time out' or a disappointing look.

Kids these days don't understand there are consequences for their actions in the real world. My stepdaughter is a perfect example of this. Her mother has never spanked her and the girl really doesn't care about doing wrong. She knows her punishment will be light and over in 10 minutes. Everybody in the family knows she will be a complete nightmare to deal with in the next few years(13yo right now) and they refuse to do anything about it. She is almost unbearable at the moment.

Kids these days also with call the cops for anything. I guess it has been ingrained in them to report "abuse" by the schools and everything else. The problem is a kid doesn't know or care about the difference between discipline and abuse. I have no doubt that she would call the cops 10 seconds after if she was spanked. This would cost thousands of dollars to clear up.

We have a six year old son who I will spank on rare occasion(~once a year). He gets verbal warnings->timeout->spanking. The threat of a timeout will make him laugh at times. The thread of a spanking will cause a 180 98% of the time. His mother will not and if I'm not around, he has learned from his sister to walk all over my wife.

Raising children to be decent human beings is difficult, and it is even more difficult these days because of the way society is progressing. No accountability, no winners/losers, entitlement, spoiled rotten peers, and everything else.

 

[zinfamous]

Let me say this plainly, they blackmailed his ass. Simple...........he fucked up numerous times, she even said he knew about the video. No question they blackmailed him and I have a problem with that. More so than the belt whipping.

These are far from moral folks. So while you are taking the high and mighty road, call all to be righteous, or call none.

You ahve acheived profound new levels of retard. congratulations.

I suppose it's not your fault, growing up in a culture of fear and abuse--you simply don't understand what respect means.

I imagine that with families that instill fear as the primary motivating emotion, you learn only that you will have to game your parents, blackmail your family, and generally lie, cheat, and thieve your way out of any tough situation.

Congratulations, classy--you do nothing but repeatedly enforce the fact that you--your actions, your emotions, your outlook on life and inability to reach a single rational conclusion about anything--are simply the product of abuse and neglect.

 

[zinfamous]

classy--how do you propose to blackmail someone by releasing the evidence with which you have to blackmail them?

it is clear that no money was involved before she released the video--so again; exactly how is one supposed to blackmail someone when they put all of their cards on the table?

perhaps you have confused the concept of blackmail with something else...

 

[skyking]

Do you have a link? I want to watch that...

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45146961/ns/today-today_people/

 

[classy]

You ahve acheived profound new levels of retard. congratulations.

I suppose it's not your fault, growing up in a culture of fear and abuse--you simply don't understand what respect means.

I imagine that with families that instill fear as the primary motivating emotion, you learn only that you will have to game your parents, blackmail your family, and generally lie, cheat, and thieve your way out of any tough situation.

Congratulations, classy--you do nothing but repeatedly enforce the fact that you--your actions, your emotions, your outlook on life and inability to reach a single rational conclusion about anything--are simply the product of abuse and neglect.

Dude she didn't say anything till he asked for a car back.........................sheesh

 

[SP33Demon]

Spanking is fine up to a point, but what that guy did was egregious assault and battery with a weapon.

 

[zinfamous]

I haven't watched the video and probably won't. I did hear quite a bit about it on the radio driving to work this morning. It sounds like the daughter is a little shit who brought this up because he was cutting her off(car repo).

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[HumblePie]

Dude she didn't say anything till he asked for a car back.........................sheesh

Uhh, only ONE person has made that claim. The father who abused her and the rest of his family. And you are defending that claim when daughters and mothers and others have said it is false. You really are a worthless piece of trash.

 

[Ricemarine]

...

You need to watch the video.

 

[zinfamous]

Dude she didn't say anything till he asked for a car back.........................sheesh

funny. how you base your entire argument on some off the cuff fart int eh wind comment by the father as he was getting into his car, pressured by a reporter.

you will stop at nothing to defend your own abuse, I think.


What about the testimony for the girl, from the mother, about the history of abuse? what about the fact that she had this conversation with her father several times about the video, and he eventually told her to "release it if it makes her feel better," even though she didn't want to?

 

[classy]

Uhh, only ONE person has made that claim. The father who abused her and the rest of his family. And you are defending that claim when daughters and mothers and others have said it is false. You really are a worthless piece of trash.

Wrong again


From the MSNBC link

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45146961/ns/today-today_people/

Hillary held on to the video for seven years until a series of small disputes with her father led her to post it on the site Reddit. It quickly went viral.

So you answer the question for me? If there were no small disputes, she wouldn't have released the video, right?

 

[zinfamous]

Wrong again


From the MSNBC link

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45146961/ns/today-today_people/




So you answer the question for me? If there were no small disputes, she wouldn't have released the video, right?

--we assume that "small dispute" means antagonism, abuse, of her, her mother, and her sister; based on the information that is actually available to us

--you assume "small dispute" means wanting more pay from her father; based on...your own assumptions about how people are expected to deal with each other?


Why is it so hard for you to see this ridiculous disconnect?

 

[al981]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexX_IoYi0E

uh oh. watch these e-thugs on ATOT come defend this teenager too.

oh wait, i'm betting these hypocrites won't have the guts to admit this was completely legal.

 

[al981]

snip.?

you owe me multiple apologies for lying and calling me a woman beater.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexX_IoYi0E

dodge that too, son.

i'm waiting for that apology.

 

[alphatarget1]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45146961/ns/today-today_people/

Thanks.

 

[Desin]

You need to watch the video.

The video is irrelevant. It will be the justice system that determines if he committed a crime, not me.

The fishy thing is she brought this all up when he was cutting her off financially. If she wanted him to "get help" and was scared to tell anyone when she was living with him; this would of been news when the father and mother divorced. It would of been a great card to play in the divorce proceedings. The fact that she pulled this ace out of her pocket as leverage to essentially blackmail him to keep giving her money shows the girls intentions are not to get him help, but to get back at him for taking her car away.

 

[al981]

The video is irrelevant. It will be the justice system that determines if he committed a crime, not me.

The fishy thing is she brought this all up when he was cutting her off financially. If she wanted him to "get help" and was scared to tell anyone when she was living with him; this would of been news when the father and mother divorced. It would of been a great card to play in the divorce proceedings. The fact that she pulled this ace out of her pocket as leverage to essentially blackmail him to keep giving her money shows the girls intentions are not to get him help, but to get back at him for taking her car away.

here's a shorter clip of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexX_IoYi0E

exact same thing. guardian "beats" kid with a belt, no belt buckle used. oh shit, but this guardian actually struck ABOVE the waist. even worse than the judge, but you won't hear a peep from these hypocrites.

edit: changed "father" to guardian. OMG he was "TERRORIZING" the poor child. GET THIS NATIONAL ATTENTION. NOW.

 

[SP33Demon]

The video is irrelevant. It will be the justice system that determines if he committed a crime, not me.

The fishy thing is she brought this all up when he was cutting her off financially. If she wanted him to "get help" and was scared to tell anyone when she was living with him; this would of been news when the father and mother divorced. It would of been a great card to play in the divorce proceedings. The fact that she pulled this ace out of her pocket as leverage to essentially blackmail him to keep giving her money shows the girls intentions are not to get him help, but to get back at him for taking her car away.

Yep, she wanted to get back at him and even said in the video that he's been punished enough. Frankly, who cares what her intentions were in releasing the video; this man should not be a judge anymore as a result of his actions due to alcohol.

 

[irishScott]

you owe me multiple apologies for lying and calling me a woman beater.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexX_IoYi0E

dodge that too, son.

i'm waiting for that apology.

We owe you multiple apologies because you insist on splooging all over your own face every time you post? That's a new one.

 

[Miramonti]

Well thats not what she said.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/justice/texas-video-beating/




So in other words all this was going on and yet nothing huge happened, but it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Now she has been abused for years, been apart from him for 4 years, nothing big happened, but she just decides to release a video of belt thrashing. Oh after she told her dad about the video...........................

I just get tired of people who know things about other people, but yet won't say anything until it appears somewhat beneficial for them. I am tired of that. He was a sitting judge over family issues and you claim all this abuse for years and you did nothing. Save it, but I see those TV appearances are lined up.

You don't understand abuse, particularly of a child, but this thread obviously isn't going to help you. It takes a long time for someone, particularly a child, to gain the strength and self-esteem to stand up to such abuse, physical and mental, and say 'enough'.

Releasing this vid took a helluva lot of courage because the potential ramifications were obvious as well as the potential criticism for releasing it.

That said, I don't know if you feel this person deserves to be made accountable or not, regardless of how this went down. He certainly doesn't feel he should.

 

[cliftonite]

Well thats not what she said.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/justice/texas-video-beating/




So in other words all this was going on and yet nothing huge happened, but it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Now she has been abused for years, been apart from him for 4 years, nothing big happened, but she just decides to release a video of belt thrashing. Oh after she told her dad about the video...........................

I just get tired of people who know things about other people, but yet won't say anything until it appears somewhat beneficial for them. I am tired of that. He was a sitting judge over family issues and you claim all this abuse for years and you did nothing. Save it, but I see those TV appearances are lined up.

What difference does it make if she is going to profit off of this? I hope she does. The FACT remains that she was ABUSED by her father.

 

[al981]

We owe you multiple apologies because you insist on splooging all over your own face every time you post? That's a new one.

why are you still ducking all questions directed at you?

here's something new:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexX_IoYi0E

i'm betting, as before, that you don't have a single shred of dignity to acknowledge what that uncle did was completely legal. in fact, he struck above the waist near the neck / shoulder area. even worse than the judge.

inc dodge.

edit: love the wayans brother cries for added effect. perfectly exemplies the posters in this thread, and the continuing pussification of america.

 

[gothamhunter]

This thread delivers.