Judge beating his daughter on video

[Desin]

You don't understand abuse, particularly of a child, but this thread obviously isn't going to help you. It takes a long time for someone, particularly a child, to gain the strength and self-esteem to stand up to such abuse, physical and mental, and say 'enough'.

Releasing this vid took a helluva lot of courage because the potential ramifications were obvious as well as the potential criticism for releasing it.

That said, I don't know if you feel this person deserves to be made accountable or not, regardless of how this went down. He certainly doesn't feel he should.

Releasing the video took no courage. It was probably posted in a rage tantrum when she figured out the gravy train was over. If she released it without blackmailing him about it, I would probably agree with you. However, this is nothing but a spoiled little shit having a knee jerk reaction to not getting what she thought she was entitled to. I know the behavior, I have a teenage stepdaughter and any time she doesn't get her way she blames everything on somebody else and will do whatever it takes to get attention or what she wants. Once again, I don't agree with physical abuse, but you are blind if you think that girl posted the video with any other intention than getting some attention and getting back at her father for not getting her way.

 

[Ricemarine]

The video is irrelevant. It will be the justice system that determines if he committed a crime, not me.

The fishy thing is she brought this all up when he was cutting her off financially. If she wanted him to "get help" and was scared to tell anyone when she was living with him; this would of been news when the father and mother divorced. It would of been a great card to play in the divorce proceedings. The fact that she pulled this ace out of her pocket as leverage to essentially blackmail him to keep giving her money shows the girls intentions are not to get him help, but to get back at him for taking her car away.

I don't care about the justice system when I told you to watch the video..

Kids these days also with call the cops for anything. I guess it has been ingrained in them to report "abuse" by the schools and everything else. The problem is a kid doesn't know or care about the difference between discipline and abuse. I have no doubt that she would call the cops 10 seconds after if she was spanked. This would cost thousands of dollars to clear up.

The daughter of the judge did nothing of what you quoted. You should at least see the evidence.

Releasing the video took no courage. It was probably posted in a rage tantrum when she figured out the gravy train was over. If she released it without blackmailing him about it, I would probably agree with you. However, this is nothing but a spoiled little shit having a knee jerk reaction to not getting what she thought she was entitled to. I know the behavior, I have a teenage stepdaughter and any time she doesn't get her way she blames everything on somebody else and will do whatever it takes to get attention or what she wants. Once again, I don't agree with physical abuse, but you are blind if you think that girl posted the video with any other intention than getting some attention and getting back at her father for not getting her way.

I have no respect for you anymore after reading this post. Please, please stay more close-minded so this statement will stay true.

 

[cliftonite]

Releasing the video took no courage. It was probably posted in a rage tantrum when she figured out the gravy train was over. If she released it without blackmailing him about it, I would probably agree with you. However, this is nothing but a spoiled little shit having a knee jerk reaction to not getting what she thought she was entitled to. I know the behavior, I have a teenage stepdaughter and any time she doesn't get her way she blames everything on somebody else and will do whatever it takes to get attention or what she wants. Once again, I don't agree with physical abuse, but you are blind if you think that girl posted the video with any other intention than getting some attention and getting back at her father for not getting her way.

And you know her intentions how? The judge has been harassing her mother even after the divorice. From http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45146961/ns/today-today_people/

“For the entire four years since I’ve left the marriage, I’ve been abused and harassed with texts (and) emails.’’

 

[Desin]

I have no respect for you anymore after reading this post.

I'm not defending the Father in any way. He should be punished for any laws that were broken. My entire point is that IMO the daughter only let this out to get back at him for taking her car/money away.

Do you have any children? Do you have a teenage daughter?

I say this because I see this behavior in my stepdaughter and some of her friends. They will do whatever it takes to get their way or get attention.

Like I mentioned before; If she brought this up during the divorce or any time that didn't involve "several small arguements"(AKA $$$) with the father, I would agree with most of what the majority here says.

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I wanted to add one more thing. If this girl was so broken because of the abusive nature of the father; why the HELL did she have anything to do with him when she is 22 years old? I've known a couple people that had abusive parents, and they got the hell away from them and never looked back when they were old enough to get out. It just doesn't add up to me. The fact that she hung around and let him pay for her stuff tells me that she probably didn't like him, but she wasn't truly screwed up.

 

[Ricemarine]

I'm not defending the Father in any way. He should be punished for any laws that were broken. My entire point is that IMO the daughter only let this out to get back at him for taking her car/money away.

The statute of limitation is 5 years. One reason why she held off until then is so that her father doesn't get convicted.

Do you have any children? Do you have a teenage daughter?

You don't need to have children to understand the consequences of bad parenting, especially if you've experienced it first hand. The effects of such is long lasting, and will be remembered for an entire lifetime.

I say this because I see this behavior in my stepdaughter and some of her friends. They will do whatever it takes to get their way or get attention.

Cool. Your stepdaughter and her friends aren't everybody.

Like I mentioned before; If she brought this up during the divorce or any time that didn't involve "several small arguements"(AKA $$$) with the father, I would agree with most of what the majority here says.

I bet you the girl just wants to live a normal life with peace. The motives for using the video as evidence which you stated does not lead to a normal life.

 

[al981]

The statute of limitation is 5 years. One reason why she held off until then is so that her father doesn't get convicted.

since everyone else has ducked this link, perhaps you will have the courage to address it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexX_IoYi0E

now, which part of this "beating" by the uncle differs from what the judge administered to his daughter?

are you saying this uncle needs to be imprisoned as well?

 

[Miramonti]

Releasing the video took no courage. It was probably posted in a rage tantrum when she figured out the gravy train was over. If she released it without blackmailing him about it, I would probably agree with you. However, this is nothing but a spoiled little shit having a knee jerk reaction to not getting what she thought she was entitled to. I know the behavior, I have a teenage stepdaughter and any time she doesn't get her way she blames everything on somebody else and will do whatever it takes to get attention or what she wants. Once again, I don't agree with physical abuse, but you are blind if you think that girl posted the video with any other intention than getting some attention and getting back at her father for not getting her way.

Assumptions made here are a staggering @ss grab. Haven't seen this much apparent baggage since carousel 7 into O'hare last week. This girl is clearly the issue and the problem here, lol.

 

[irishScott]

why are you still ducking all questions directed at you?

here's something new:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexX_IoYi0E

i'm betting, as before, that you don't have a single shred of dignity to acknowledge what that uncle did was completely legal. in fact, he struck above the waist near the neck / shoulder area. even worse than the judge.

inc dodge.

edit: love the wayans brother cries for added effect. perfectly exemplies the posters in this thread, and the continuing pussification of america.

No, I'm just ducking questions I've already answered, mainly from you. You should be thanking me. From all evidence I'm giving you better action than your wife.

 

[al981]

No, I'm just ducking questions I've already answered, mainly from you. You should be thanking me. From all evidence I'm giving you better action than your wife.

that's a blatant lie, but for the sake of argument, let's say that you magically did answer my questions directed at you yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexX_IoYi0E

does the uncle "beating" this kid deserve to be imprisoned as well? after all, he is doing the exact same thing as the judge. in fact, he is even worse, and he strikes the shoulder area, and the kid is clearly terrified, nervous as hell.

inc another dodge.

 

[Desin]

The statute of limitation is 5 years. One reason why she held off until then is so that her father doesn't get convicted.

I bet you the girl just wants to live a normal life with peace. The motives for using the video as evidence which you stated does not lead to a normal life.

She probably didn't give a crap if he went to jail other than the fact her $$ would be cut off.

If she wanted a "normal life with peace", she wouldn't be posting the video all over the Internet or having interviews with news stations on national TV. She want the attention, and probably the $$ now that she is in the spotlight.

It is amazing how blind some of you are, but I can understand if you don't have children or aren't exposed to teenage/early 20's spoiled kids. I see it every day, especially now that everybody is connected by social media. There isn't a day that goes by the some little brat that is on my stepdaughters facebook doesn't do/say something completely idiotic for attention or to make the world believe they are mistreated.

 

[Ricemarine]

since everyone else has ducked this link, perhaps you will have the courage to address it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexX_IoYi0E

now, which part of this "beating" by the uncle differs from what the judge administered to his daughter?

are you saying this uncle needs to be imprisoned as well?

Well for one, the father restrained himself from beating his son to nothing.

 

[Desin]

Assumptions made here are a staggering @ss grab. Haven't seen this much apparent baggage since carousel 7 into O'hare last week. This girl is clearly the issue and the problem here, lol.

The fact that she has already said her "father has paid enough" tells me that she posted in a rage without really thinking about what this would do. I have no baggage. Reality is what it is and I truly hope my stepdaughter "grows out" of this self centered/attention needing stage, but I don't see it happening.

 

[HendrixFan]

The fact that she has already said her "father has paid enough" tells me that she posted in a rage without really thinking about what this would do. I have no baggage. Reality is what it is and I truly hope my stepdaughter "grows out" of this self centered/attention needing stage, but I don't see it happening.

Yes, I hope she has learned her lesson in all this.

 

[al981]

Well for one, the father restrained himself from beating his son to nothing.

how so? both are using belts, no buckles were used in either. in fact, he struck above the waist, near the shoulder area, which is worse than what the judge did. do acknowledge that basic fact. also, look at the pain and anguish on the male's face as the belt strikes his hand, as he tries to deflect the incoming belt, exactly what the daughter did.

the only difference was this male wasn't screaming and crying as the girl.

"beating his son to nothing". LOL. neither was the daughter, as she walked without issue to turn off the camera after her parents left the room.

good stuff.

edit: but congrats, you are the first to acknowledge what the uncle did in that link was not illegal. wait, you do think the uncle was within the law, right?

 

[HumblePie]

al981,

For one, the kid being hit in that video is told WHY. He is told why he is receiving punishment before it occurs and what the punishment will be. He knows the incorrect behavior he did that his "guardian" didn't like and knows the consequences. He receives several "licks" for it and then the guardian stops. The teen is none the worse for the wear and the guardian has moved on. Yes foul language is used which I think is excessive. I also thought he could have done with only 2 or 3 whips of the belt versus the 9 he inflicted. I also think that on a kid that age a belt whipping is not exactly effective anymore. Studies actually prove on boys at that age it has very little behavioral correctional effectiveness due to increased testosterone in male adolescents. Instead it drives rage and anger at being struck due to instincts in males at that age.

The difference in those two video's is NIGHT AND DAY.

1) The boy is never struck in the face or the back of the head.
2) The boy is told what his punishment is for and receives 9 licks for it.
3) The guardian stops after punishment is administered.

For the girls this is why it's abuse
1) She was struck in the face at 1:57 in the video as I stated before.
2) She was struck in the back of the head at least once at 3:22.
3) The father came BACK to "get his licks in" after punishment had been already administered at 3:12
4) The girl received 30+ lashings combined from the parents



There is a clear difference and you a worthless piece of trash to think otherwise. STFU and GTFO.

 

[Ricemarine]

She probably didn't give a crap if he went to jail other than the fact her $$ would be cut off.

If she wanted a "normal life with peace", she wouldn't be posting the video all over the Internet or having interviews with news stations on national TV. She want the attention, and probably the $$ now that she is in the spotlight.

It is amazing how blind some of you are, but I can understand if you don't have children or aren't exposed to teenage/early 20's spoiled kids. I see it every day, especially now that everybody is connected by social media. There isn't a day that goes by the some little brat that is on my stepdaughters facebook doesn't do/say something completely idiotic for attention or to make the world believe they are mistreated.

She let the video speak for itself, and requested that the world view him as a man in dire need of help (and the whole request he's not re-elected, but he isn't up for that for another 3 years).

Believe what you want of what the girl probably thought. But for now, my statement holds true.

 

[Miramonti]

The fact that she has already said her "father has paid enough" tells me that she posted in a rage without really thinking about what this would do. I have no baggage. Reality is what it is and I truly hope my stepdaughter "grows out" of this self centered/attention needing stage, but I don't see it happening.

If you are seeing this clearly as you suggest, then why no value to her saying she didn't want to post it at the time in a moment of anger, which is sensible.

Yet you're claiming that's exactly what she did. Doesn't make sense. What does make sense is the father blaming this "problem child" for this, which is cowardly bullsh!t, perfectly in line with his emotional abuse of this girl.

 

[I Saw OJ]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...texas-judge-it-happened-regularly?sc=fb&cc=fp

NPR picked up the story.

 

[Desin]

She let the video speak for itself, and requested that the world view him as a man in dire need of help (and the whole request he's not re-elected, but he isn't up for that for another 3 years).

Believe what you want of what the girl probably thought. But for now, my statement holds true.

You statement holds nothing. If it did she wouldn't be on national TV. She would of sent out the video to the judicial board and then maybe leaked it on the net if they ignored it. She sure as hell wouldn't of thrown it on REDDIT after her father took her car away.

 

[classy]

But in all honesty after looking at the video of her today, I ain't going to lie, I would hit it. But I thought she was disabled, looks normal to me. But we all know my normal, can be considered abnormal...........

 

[Desin]

If you are seeing this clearly as you suggest, then why no value to her saying she didn't want to post it at the time in a moment of anger, which is sensible.

Yet you're claiming that's exactly what she did. Doesn't make sense. What does make sense is the father blaming this "problem child" for this, which is cowardly bullsh!t, perfectly in line with his emotional abuse of this girl.

Explain to me one thing and I'll shut up. Why on earth did all this coincide with the father cutting the 22 year victim off financially? Is it just random chance? Open your eyes.

 

[Wreckem]

Hopefully for the daughters sake she did not threaten to release the video in an attempt to not get cut off. If she did, ruhroh, that would be a serious criminal offense.

 

[HendrixFan]

Explain to me one thing and I'll shut up. Why on earth did all this coincide with the father cutting the 22 year victim off financially? Is it just random chance? Open your eyes.

Where are you getting that information from?

 

[Wreckem]

Where are you getting that information from?

Allegedly, the father asked for her to return the Benz she was driving back to him.

 

[Ricemarine]

Explain to me one thing and I'll shut up. Why on earth did all this coincide with the father cutting the 22 year victim off financially? Is it just random chance? Open your eyes.

'Back then I was still a minor and living under his roof and releasing it then... I don't know what would have happened to me or my mother or my little sister, so waiting until today seven years later has enabled me to pull away and be able to distance myself from the consequences.'

The 23-year-old added that there was no one incident that caused her to post the tape but simply enduring abuse from her father over many years.

'It was the straw that broke the camel's back. It wasn't any, you know, huge happening or anything. I just told him I had the video and he didn't seem to think anything of it and basically dared me to post it.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sabled-daughter-Hillary-16-YouTube-video.html

My statement still holds.