Judge beating his daughter on video

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djnsmith7

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I'm not going to watch the video, but if it made this much news, and is remotely close to being as violent as described in this thread, he's got some bad karma coming his way...and deservedly so.

Anyone who treats children this way...well, I'll just say, I wouldn't feel bad if they got nailed by a bus.
 

HumblePie

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You can call them pricks but the evidence is clear. Look at the scene of New Orleans after Katrina, tons of looting, shootings, etc going on. Look at Japan after the quake + tsunami, no looting, no crime, people are actually respectful and neatly lined up for goods. When goods run out, they don't complain loudly or throw a temper tantrum like they would here in the US.

Sorry to say but Japanese are qualified to be called superior than most of the people in the US.

Don't compare the cesspool that New Orleans has always been to most places in Japan. America has had many places where large scale disasters have happened and no looting or rioting occurred in every place a large scale disaster has struck. Try comparing apples to apples next time.
 

Bird222

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Yes. They need to know you are the authority, but asserting it as such is both bad parenting and bad managerial skills. Do you like it when your boss or manager at work comes by and makes you do random things because they are the "boss" of you? Why would your kid be any different?

Most of the same effective leadership skills you use for business or other places where you are in a position of authority over another works well with kids. They need to know you are the boss, but you don't need to rub their noses in it every chance you get. HUGE difference. Again, leading with a carrot versus trying to pull them with the reigns.

I have not said anything about rubbing a kid's nose in the fact that I am their 'boss'. To me these situations are not comparable. The bolded above is partly why I think a lot of parents fail. It isn't all about what your kid's 'like'. It is about what is necessary to get them up to fully functioning, productive adults. If they like it too then that's great. I believe you have stated somewhere in this thread that you have not raised any kids. I think if you do, your perspective will change at least somewhat. I know my uncle's perspective did. If am wrong about you raising kids then my apologies.

Oh did you get to review 3:22 of the video again?
 
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purbeast0

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i was spanked and smacked as kid and I think I turned out just fine. i wasn't beat up or anything at all by my parents. i also never have been in a fight in my life other than w/my siblings.

i plan on doing the same to my kids when we have them.
 

HumblePie

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I have not said anything about rubbing a kid's nose in the fact that I am their 'boss'. To me these situations are not comparable. The bolded above is partly why I think a lot of parents fail. It isn't all about what your kid's 'like'. It is about what is necessary to get them up to fully functioning, productive adults. If they like it too then that's great. I believe you have stated somewhere in this thread that you have not raised any kids. I think if you do, your perspective will change at least somewhat. I know my uncle's perspective did. If am wrong about you raising kids then my apologies.

Oh I've raised kids. Not one of my own, but I have raised them and dealt with them. I've even changed behaviors of kids that their parents thought were impossible to change. Part of which is changing how the parents behave as well as the kids.

And LIKING is very much needed as liking comes with respect. Proper respect. Your kids may not like every rule you lay down, but they MUST LIKE YOU. As such they will respect you and any rules that they do not like. Again, good leadership skills will make people both like and respect you. Bad leadership skills can still get people to sometimes do what you want but the respect is not based on like but fear. Getting others to do what you want based on fear will always eventually fail.
 

zinfamous

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In Japan, they beat their kids as discipline. I'm not surprised their country has a much more well behaved culture than we do. The parents of our country are terrible at raising kids. Stop trying to be their best buds, be a parent and be responsible for your kids.


aaaaand this is the result:







yeah, um. no.

no, thanks.
 

alent1234

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You can call them pricks but the evidence is clear. Look at the scene of New Orleans after Katrina, tons of looting, shootings, etc going on. Look at Japan after the quake + tsunami, no looting, no crime, people are actually respectful and neatly lined up for goods. When goods run out, they don't complain loudly or throw a temper tantrum like they would here in the US.

Sorry to say but Japanese are qualified to be called superior than most of the people in the US.


and what about the Yakuza? are they just misunderstood?

what about the japanese treatment of women? what about the stories of i've read in the past of how japanese men read anime porn comics in public?

people may not loot after a natural disaster but in japan they do plenty of other things that us in the USA find crazy and repulsive
 

vishwa108

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Stupidity is when conscience is lacking whereas dumbness is having too much conscience. When it comes to conscience, too much/Over is merely the latency of too little/Under. Over is when Under is expressing and Under is when Over suppressing.

The judge was using excuses to hurt which probably was his favourite pastime. If true, that is indicative of the way he dishes out punishment/justice. An excuse to vent hurt because he had been hurt in the past, the duty of every principle/concept being to replicate. This Control Freak ought to realise very quickly, because mere knowledge is insufficient, that Control is merely latent Abandonment, Control being Abandonment expressed whereas Abandonment is none other than Control suppressed. This vacillation, a legacy of the duality within Humanity, ensures that as Control reaches its limit/extreme, it reverts to being Abandonment. Witness how ritualism becomes licentiousness, be it politics, religion, science or whatever.

The mother is trying to be in-between/balance but because she valued her relationship with her husband more than she valued her relationship with her daughter, she took sides. She lacked courage. Charity Beginning At Home, there is nothing constructive nor destructive that we could wage upon another without having done the same to ourself first. She should love herself first for then, her superficial love for her husband, oka her insecurity, will then be genuine. And then to her daughter too.

Love is none other than Truth expressed because Truth has no other means of expression. If true, and it is regardless of belief, agreement or ignorance, where there is Truth, there is also Love standing next to Him. Those, whose state of Evolution is still swinging at the treetops, almost all within Humanity being part human, part animal because of our animal legacy, those who justifies that abusing is also loving, needs to realise that once a human attains the age of “I”-ness, he cannot be taught, he then has to learn. As such, all finger-pointing/control ever does is to instill guilt or anger, Guilt being Anger suppressed with Anger merely being Guilt expressed.

What, therefore, is the “judge” so guilty about? His various judgements dished out on others that he knows for sure, were against justice ? Perhaps, but whatever it may be, when a human is being taught a lesson, his defiance/ego will ensure that he ends up repeating the same errors until those errors become addictions of sorts. This is because “adults” cannot be taught, we have to learn and learning only comes from being able to witness and not to react. When a human reacts, he will lose a litle [or much] of his empowerment/stability. As such, “Disciplining” an adult is merely addicting him to his errors, there being many who are beyond rescue even when the correct approach is finally applied. For that, society will have to collectively pay for somebody’s error in promulgating the initial error of judgement.

When one realises how a human is truly “infrastructured”, one will then be able to read another like an opened book. Then, there is no need for wars, gambling, clairvoyance, spying, skull-duggery, bearing false witness, finger-pointing and more. You will only need to see how the ControlFreak-cum-AbandonedNut acts and his history is then unwound. But then, what is the need to “shadow” others? There is no requirement to be a voyuer other than to maintain one’s immunity/stability. This is because when two energy levels engage, the lower level will always try to level the playing field. Without one single exception. Truth cannot be for all because not all are interested in the truth. Only those who are truthful will be able to bear the Truth because then, the Truth is not a burden but a relief. A Simplicity which Eludes.

[FONT=&quot]The judge was incorrect. His wife was somewhat incorrect. His daughter was just being naughty. Whatever they may become, Love will be their antidote. Not the Love which Expects and neither will it be the Love which Demands. It will be the Love which Gives without judgement who will redress the balance. And so the theme applies to all. When it comes to judgement, all should judge themselves firstly and finally. None should judge others leaving those who have to, bear the burden that they were not supposed to bear. A moment will arrive and may it be sooner than later, that Truth is all there is, expressed through Love and with Love flowing, Joy [not euphoria or ecstasy] will be derived thereby affording Peace and Satisfaction their long awaited passage without using justification. And here the fairytale ends but it could-be/will-become real. Sooner if not later. Truth is merely The Potential/Complexity/Masculinity but It has no meaning if It is not The Kinetic/Simplicity/Love/Femininity too.[/FONT]
 
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Bird222

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Oh I've raised kids. Not one of my own, but I have raised them and dealt with them. I've even changed behaviors of kids that their parents thought were impossible to change. Part of which is changing how the parents behave as well as the kids.

And LIKING is very much needed as liking comes with respect. Proper respect. Your kids may not like every rule you lay down, but they MUST LIKE YOU. As such they will respect you and any rules that they do not like. Again, good leadership skills will make people both like and respect you. Bad leadership skills can still get people to sometimes do what you want but the respect is not based on like but fear. Getting others to do what you want based on fear will always eventually fail.

Your analogy didn't say anything about liking the boss. It was about liking "it" which is what the boss was doing but that's beside the point. Sure it is important for kids to like you to a certain extent. Did you have these kids 24/7? Did you see my edit about the video?
 

zinfamous

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and what about the Yakuza? are they just misunderstood?

what about the japanese treatment of women? what about the stories of i've read in the past of how japanese men read anime porn comics in public?

people may not loot after a natural disaster but in japan they do plenty of other things that us in the USA find crazy and repulsive

suicide has become rather hip in Japan

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/International/story?id=564931#.TrQJWrL0-r4

There was an interesting Article in The Atlantic about this some 4 or so years ago. rather creepy. The country has one of the highest suicide rates.
 

alent1234

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used to know a japanese kid years ago in school. he said that in a traditional household the father eats first and if anyone dares to eat before permission is given by the father then it's grounds to be smacked
 

Desin

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I knew she used the video as leverage to keep getting $$$. The fathers career is over and this will hang over his head for the rest of his life, he is getting his punishment.

The daughter is just starting what will most likely be a crappy adulthood. I wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole knowing that she is capable of being that vindictive. I doubt many other guys with a functioning brain cell would either.
 
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I knew she used the video as leverage to keep getting $$$. The fathers career is over and this will hang over his head for the rest of his life, he is getting his punishment.

The daughter is just starting what will most likely be a crappy adulthood. I wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole knowing that she is capable of being that vindictive. I doubt many other guys with a functioning brain cell would either.

You're assuming everything her father says is true. It's certainly possible it is, but obviously the father has an incentive to paint her as a bad guy.
 

ShawnD1

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The daughter is just starting what will most likely be a crappy adulthood. I wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole knowing that she is capable of being that vindictive.
Releasing videos of violent crimes = vindictive. Bitch should have stayed quiet about physical abuse. Women should also stay quiet after being raped.
You must be from the middle east.
 

Ns1

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used to know a japanese kid years ago in school. he said that in a traditional household the father eats first and if anyone dares to eat before permission is given by the father then it's grounds to be smacked

women don't walk in front of an old school japanese men either
 

alent1234

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Releasing videos of violent crimes = vindictive. Bitch should have stayed quiet about physical abuse. Women should also stay quiet after being raped.
You must be from the middle east.


except she only released the video when daddy cut off the allowance and the mercedes

she could have left home after HS and go out on her own
 

Desin

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Some quotes off CNN...

"Adams said Hillary told him that if he "reduced her financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it. The post was then uploaded."

"Perhaps Hillary Adams should explain, if she felt she was raised by a tyrannical father, a claim shared with no one until five years after adulthood, why she insisted on living with her father and not her mother from the time of her parent's divorce, until she moved out on her own," William Adams said. "Hillary Adams has been living on her own for some time, and has been an adult for almost six years, so why post the video in late 2011?"


Anybody that believes that she released this video for any other reason than to get back at her father for dropping the flow of cash is an idiot.

It looks like he cut off the cash because she dropped out of school right before graduating to work at freakin Gamestop. She'd probably fit right in around here with the bunch of all day video game playing, basement dwelling, dope smoking drags on society I've seen lurking around here.


ps...there is nothing wrong with pot or anything else in moderation.
 

Desin

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Releasing videos of violent crimes = vindictive. Bitch should have stayed quiet about physical abuse. Women should also stay quiet after being raped.
You must be from the middle east.

You are extremely naive. She lived with the 'monster' after her parents divorced. That right there completely removes all thought that she was scared of him or anything else. She would of knocked the door down to get out of that house when her mother left if she truly felt that way.
 
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Some quotes off CNN...

"Adams said Hillary told him that if he "reduced her financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it. The post was then uploaded."

"Perhaps Hillary Adams should explain, if she felt she was raised by a tyrannical father, a claim shared with no one until five years after adulthood, why she insisted on living with her father and not her mother from the time of her parent's divorce, until she moved out on her own," William Adams said. "Hillary Adams has been living on her own for some time, and has been an adult for almost six years, so why post the video in late 2011?"


Anybody that believes that she released this video for any other reason than to get back at her father for dropping the flow of cash is an idiot.

It looks like he cut off the cash because she dropped out of school right before graduating to work at freakin Gamestop. She'd probably fit right in around here with the bunch of all day video game playing, basement dwelling, dope smoking drags on society I've seen lurking around here.


ps...there is nothing wrong with pot or anything else in moderation.

Again, you're taking what he says as gospel despite the intrinsically self-serving nature of any statements made in situations like this. Obviously one risk of doing terrible things like beating your kids is that if there's evidence in the hands of someone (here, the victim) who gets sufficiently pissed at you for whatever reason, it will be dragged out into the light. I have a hard time getting too upset with Hillary Adams for releasing this, whatever her reasons. He is the one who beat her up, after all.
 

Desin

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yeah well karma is a bitch.

I'm not saying it isn't, but everybody is rallying up saying poor abused girl. She is nothing but a spoiled vindictive little bitch herself. Hopefully karma comes back and bites her in the ass as well.
 

Ns1

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I'm not saying it isn't, but everybody is rallying up saying poor abused girl. She is nothing but a spoiled vindictive little bitch herself. Hopefully karma comes back and bites her in the ass as well.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "after you spent XX years beating the shit out of me, you better pay the fuck up"

I bet the mercedes/$$$/support = hush money
 
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You are extremely naive. She lived with the 'monster' after her parents divorced. That right there completely removes all thought that she was scared of him or anything else. She would of knocked the door down to get out of that house when her mother left if she truly felt that way.

You, in turn, are ignoring the complexity of family dynamics, particularly where abuse is concerned. Her mother may have been a total basket case when the parents got divorced - we have no way of knowing what factors were involved in her staying with her father.
 

Macamus Prime

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You can call them pricks but the evidence is clear. Look at the scene of New Orleans after Katrina, tons of looting, shootings, etc going on. Look at Japan after the quake + tsunami, no looting, no crime, people are actually respectful and neatly lined up for goods. When goods run out, they don't complain loudly or throw a temper tantrum like they would here in the US.

Sorry to say but Japanese are qualified to be called superior than most of the people in the US.

Throw in the America's corporate officers in there as well. It's not just the "little people" that act like total pigs.
 
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