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Trevelyan

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Seriously though, I dont understand why we aren't sending out nukes into space to blow crap up... I think that would be the sweetest use of our technology.

At least then we would know there isn't any life on other planets.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: edro13
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: purbeast0
wow thats awesome, where was that taken from?
i wonder if some day we will be able to walk on jupiter . the colors of that planet look cool.
Jupiter is a planet made of gases. I'm not sure if it has solid terrain.
That's what makes it a planet...

Jupiter is a jovian planet (Gas Giant) composed mostly of Hydrogen and Helium with some trace gasses. The inner core of Jupiter is composed of liquid due to the tremendous pressure. There is no solid surface for anybody to walk on......

Thank you. I guess this is not as common knowledge as I thought.
 

shenaniganz

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Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Seriously though, I dont understand why we aren't sending out nukes into space to blow crap up... I think that would be the sweetest use of our technology.

At least then we would know there isn't any life on other planets.

Blowing crap up would be the sweetest use of our technology. True dat, bro.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: edro13
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: purbeast0
wow thats awesome, where was that taken from?
i wonder if some day we will be able to walk on jupiter . the colors of that planet look cool.
Jupiter is a planet made of gases. I'm not sure if it has solid terrain.
That's what makes it a planet...

Just for clarification, the distinction between a gas giant like Jupiter and a star is only mass; its mass is what makes it a planet. It would be a star if it were something like 75 times more massive.
 

Ikonomi

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Jupiter is a jovian planet

Hehe, by definition, I think.

That pic is really cool. If you guys want some more great pics of Jupiter, look up the comet Shoemaker-Levy images on APOD. Really astounding.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: edro13
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: purbeast0
wow thats awesome, where was that taken from?
i wonder if some day we will be able to walk on jupiter . the colors of that planet look cool.
Jupiter is a planet made of gases. I'm not sure if it has solid terrain.
That's what makes it a planet...

Jupiter is a jovian planet (Gas Giant) composed mostly of Hydrogen and Helium with some trace gasses. The inner core of Jupiter is composed of liquid due to the tremendous pressure. There is no solid surface for anybody to walk on......

Not to mention - a human wouldn't be able to withstand the gravitational forces at the surface.
edit: nope. Just checked. I never looked up that fact, and always believed whatever it was that some teacher at some point said... gravity is only between 2 and 3 times that of earth.

It's only about 2g. Not much problem.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: edro13
It's amazing how huge Jupiter is... yet it has next to zero effect on us.

We should send a nuclear missile into the core of Jupiter and get it to ignite into a 2nd sun.

Wouldn't do anything
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: edro13
It's amazing how huge Jupiter is... yet it has next to zero effect on us.

We should send a nuclear missile into the core of Jupiter and get it to ignite into a 2nd sun.

It's not true that Jupiter has zero effect on us, unless of course he was speaking astrologically with respect to human behavior.

Also, as I stated above, the difference between Jupiter and our sun is that of mass. If Jupiter were larger nuclear fusion would occur, and it would be a star.
 

Kibbo

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Explain to me how Jupiter can have so much more mass than Earth, yet only have 2g gravity force.

Edit: Found it for myself. It's because Jupiter is so large, you are furthur away from it's center, and the force is weakened by that distance. I shoulcda thought of that..
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: Kibbo
Explain to me how Jupiter can have so much more mass than Earth, yet only have 2g gravity force.

Edit: Found it for myself. It's because Jupiter is so large, you are furthur away from it's center, and the force is weakened by that distance. I shoulcda thought of that..

This is true, but don't consider it a property of the radius of the planet itself. If the outer gas shells of Jupiter were as dense as its core the surface gravity would be MUCH, MUCH greater.
 

naruto1988

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IIRC, 1 million earths can fit into jupiter. and it's basically impossible for any human to visit it let alone walk on it.
 

edmicman

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Its posts like this that redeem 90% of everything else that is posted on ATOT. Thanks for a cool pic and some interesting discussion!
 

JustAnAverageGuy

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Originally posted by: Kibbo
Explain to me how Jupiter can have so much more mass than Earth, yet only have 2g gravity force.

Edit: Found it for myself. It's because Jupiter is so large, you are furthur away from it's center, and the force is weakened by that distance. I shoulcda thought of that..

It's also a matter of density.

Solid > Gas
 

Kibbo

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Originally posted by: Descartes


This is true, but don't consider it a property of the radius of the planet itself. If the outer gas shells of Jupiter were as dense as its core the surface gravity would be MUCH, MUCH greater.

Yes, but if the density were greater, wouldn't either the mass increase or the radius decrease?
 

coder1

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Someone mentioned the gases igniting. I don't think there will be any problem with the hydrogen igniting without an oxidyzer.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: Kibbo
Originally posted by: Descartes


This is true, but don't consider it a property of the radius of the planet itself. If the outer gas shells of Jupiter were as dense as its core the surface gravity would be MUCH, MUCH greater.

Yes, but if the density were greater, wouldn't either the mass increase or the radius decrease?

Yes, and both of those would contribute to a considerable increase in force exerted on bodies. An increase in density would have an increase in mass, and therefore an increase in gravitational force. The resultant gravitational contraction would result in a denser core, but there would still be less dense shells of gas surrounding the planet, especially if it were massive enough to result in nucleosynthesis in its cores. The equation for universal gravity is as follows:

F = G * m1 * m2 / R^2

Where m1 is the mass of the planet, m2 is the mass of the body with which the force will be exerted, and R is the radius. That should give you a better idea.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Just for clarification, the distinction between a gas giant like Jupiter and a star is only mass; its mass is what makes it a planet. It would be a star if it were something like 75 times more massive.

Is it possible that there are stars in our galaxy that are made up of solid matter similar to that of venus/earth/mars?
 

yhelothar

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Those two moons look like Europa and Callisto

Just for clarification, the distinction between a gas giant like Jupiter and a star is only mass; its mass is what makes it a planet. It would be a star if it were something like 75 times more massive.
That's actually still debatable with the new discoveries of brown dawrfs, which basically have the same phsyical properties as a gas giant such as jupiter.
Guess Jupiter is considered a planet because it orbits the sun?
 

Horus

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: edro13
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: purbeast0
wow thats awesome, where was that taken from?
i wonder if some day we will be able to walk on jupiter . the colors of that planet look cool.
Jupiter is a planet made of gases. I'm not sure if it has solid terrain.
That's what makes it a planet...

Jupiter is a jovian planet (Gas Giant) composed mostly of Hydrogen and Helium with some trace gasses. The inner core of Jupiter is composed of liquid due to the tremendous pressure. There is no solid surface for anybody to walk on......

The MOONS, however...
 
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