Just bought a 22" Dell P1230 Diamondtron SuperBright for $269

[aweigh]

well, generally CRT's consume about 40% more juice than a comparable LCD.

 

[EKKC]

except for CAD work (and theres another argument there with the recent new big screen LCD on the cheap), are there any reason why anybody would want something that big and heavy on their desk?

 

[BigRigDriver]

Originally posted by: EKKC
except for CAD work (and theres another argument there with the recent new big screen LCD on the cheap), are there any reason why anybody would want something that big and heavy on their desk?

Bragging rites

 

[straubs]

Originally posted by: EKKC
except for CAD work (and theres another argument there with the recent new big screen LCD on the cheap), are there any reason why anybody would want something that big and heavy on their desk?

LCD = Native Resolution = Teh Suck.

If you choose any other resolution than the native LCD resolution, you have to put up with a blurry mess. I am hoping there is eventually a solution for this, but I'm guessing it won't happen until whatever replaces LCDs comes around.

Since my desktop is 1600x1200 on my 21" CRT, can you imagine what kind of video card I'd have to have to run games at that resolution on a comparable LCD? On my CRT I can reduce my resolution accordingly to say 1024x768 and still have nice crisp images. Not so on an LCD. By that I mean it is possible, but it's not pretty.

 

[mikeford]

The main reason I could see buying a CRT is for a CHEAP huge screen. Long term the cost of power favors LCD, but the driving force there is desktop real estate. Most CRTs are cubes, as deep as they are wide, and that is a LOT of desk space to give up.

Paying more than $50 or maybe $100 I find a bit hard to follow, since the suppliy coming out of industry has to be like ten times the market for gamers.

No commercial use I know of favors CRT, and no employee wants one on there desk, so out is the firm direction. Maybe buy one while you still can, just don't post about a 3 year old CRT being a hot deal for $269.

 

[aweigh]

mikeford, if you were a gamer and actually appreciated a nice image, you would understand why I posted about this monitor. there are plenty of CRT enthusiasts out there who refuse to step-down to LCD quality IQ.

 

[Lithan]

I game on a 2005fpw and there are NO problems. In fact, thanks to crisper colors and the beauty of supported widescreen gaming... it's a SUPERIOR experience to the quality 21" trinitron I had before this. Short of cost, there is no reason to go crt anymore. And once you consider the dell deals and power usage over the lifetime of the monitor... a 2005fpw or a similar (<12ms) 19-21" conventional monitor are MUCH better buys then a nearly $300 crt. The exception MIGHT be intense 3d work, I don't know how well a lcd would work for that.

 

[Zoomer]

I think you bought the wrong piece.

This is the REAL hot deal - *SUPER-SALE* 22" Mitsubishi Diamond Plus® 200 NF Flat Screen .24mm Dot Pitch 1880x1440 Max. Resolution
Grade A

$99.00

http://www.azatek.com/details.asp?iid=607

 

[carpenter]

I have 10 crt's that I use at home, 3 are 21". I see a lot of lcd's that guys bring for lan parties, and I'm sticking with my crts. I like the lcd's, don't get me wrong. But it's like, something isn't quite right with them when I view the same images side by side. Can't tell you what it is, just like the crt image better. Hate the size and weight of the big ones. About 85# for the big ones.

 

[itakey]

I've purchased a 21 or 22 inch (I forget) Sony Trinitron from Azatek a while back and the monitor came in great condition and I use it regularly. I must say though, a friend ordered once and said he had to ship it back and get another. They paid the shipping I think....

Sometimes a CRT is still necessary over an LCD. I know many people think that is nuts but if you are doing print work and compare the two, there is still no comparison. I work on both an LCD and a CRT at all times on one comp and use them both. Power to the CRT that is still holding strong. I must say though, I won't miss the damn weight of them when you are moving them around

 

[jmunjr]

I hate my 2005FPW for my games. Image quality on these things stinks. It is above average for LCDs but I still don't like the quality, but the space savings make it ok for my use. I am hoping those nanotube TVs are a lot better..

 

[zaptone]

i just bought a Dell P1130 for $119 shipped

 

[snowdogg187]

Originally posted by: aweigh
mikeford, if you were a gamer and actually appreciated a nice image, you would understand why I posted about this monitor. there are plenty of CRT enthusiasts out there who refuse to step-down to LCD quality IQ.

Jeez, you think this guy is pumping his own business?

I think so.

 

[konakona]

Originally posted by: snowdogg187

Originally posted by: aweigh
mikeford, if you were a gamer and actually appreciated a nice image, you would understand why I posted about this monitor. there are plenty of CRT enthusiasts out there who refuse to step-down to LCD quality IQ.

Jeez, you think this guy is pumping his own business?

I think so.

No, its just you. We have had numerous arguments in other hardware related forums and I thought we agreed to disagree on the LCD vs CRT matter. Here is a good quote for you folks that think CRTs should look worse in everyone's eyes :

"We should no more let numbers define audio quality than we would let chemical analysis be the arbiter of fine wines."
Nelson Pass

I think a similar argument can be made for the visual department; we arent dealing with FPS or 3dmark scores where you have an absolute measuring stick, so to say. Hell, not everyone thinks 6500k looks better than 9200k and vice versa, so what gives you a right to think everyone thinks LCDs should look superior? I could care less about text crispiness and I really cant tell at all in all honesty. What I do tell is, how much better colors look on my diamondtron compared to dell 2000 and 2005FPs at school. Those dells arent like 5 years old or anything, they just upgraded to 2005FPs recently in fact. Last time I thought these models were fairly highly regarded by the LCD camp, so if you think that doesnt do the justice, show me something better. Come to think of it, I have seen somewhat better looking Samsung displays when I was in Yongsan, but none of them could touch the glorious visuals AG tech can offer.

Besides, most everyone here already has heard of azatek and we had multiple posts on that site, at least 2-3 just off the top of my head. why would azatek hire a person to do something like that? That would be like newegg pimping their site like no one else knew about them.

 

[hytek369]

CRT?

booooo

 

[grokk]

CRT?

Yayyyyy!

 

[konakona]

Originally posted by: grokk
CRT?

Yayyyyy!

QFT

 

[djchemistry]

Is the 19" inch crt $99 shipped?

If so, that's an amazing deal. I scavenge craigslist and ebay for used crt's. The fall in prices for large screen crt's = heaven for video quality enthusiasts not yet ready to pair up a hd-ready and above, price inflated displays with their computers. I love CRT's and their image quality for their price. Beyond that I need some of the settings of a CRT monitor. For example, I often tweak my resolution settings while checking for browser configurations and such. As another post mentioned, this is extremely unwieldy on most LCD's.

While the $269 price point in the OP may not be hot, $99 shipped would be a wreckless bonfire. I love seeing two 19" crt's running in a dual monitor setup. I know it's a lot of real estate, but it's a cheap way to go dual.

 

[carpenter]

Guess I don't understand why there would be an "argument" at all unless you like to argue. They both have their place. I like the space savings (and weight) of lcds. Picture quality of crt's. I also like shotguns for certain hunting and rifles for others. Anybody want to argue.

 

[mikeford]

Nelsen Pass is a very nice and knowledgible fellow, who makes $10,000 amps that nobody can distinguish from a $99 receiver by sound alone.

CRT vs LCD isn't my issue, I happen to be a gamer using a 22" CRT. I live in SoCal and know half a dozen computer recycle places and people who get these monitors by the pallet, then sell off as many as they can to joints like Azatek, then dump the rest locally or pack them into containers and ship to china. Mine was $65 about 2 years ago, last one was $25, but they had 5 pallets to sell in a hurry. More than $75 would have to be ONE sweet CRT, nice low power modes, flat screen, etc.

 

[konakona]

Originally posted by: mikeford
Nelsen Pass is a very nice and knowledgible fellow, who makes $10,000 amps that nobody can distinguish from a $99 receiver by sound alone.

CRT vs LCD isn't my issue, I happen to be a gamer using a 22" CRT. I live in SoCal and know half a dozen computer recycle places and people who get these monitors by the pallet, then sell off as many as they can to joints like Azatek, then dump the rest locally or pack them into containers and ship to china. Mine was $65 about 2 years ago, last one was $25, but they had 5 pallets to sell in a hurry. More than $75 would have to be ONE sweet CRT, nice low power modes, flat screen, etc.

I am not really sure who he was except he is in the audio business, but I really like the way he puts it. We dont take wine bottles to chem labs to evaluate their value, do we? You might be right on the business side of things, but I just happened to like that quote

now, only if I lived near where you did

 

[aweigh]

I was originally going to buy the $99 Diamond Plus 200, but it doesn't include shipping and it would've cost me $216 dollars to have it shipped to where I'm from, Puerto Rico. Therefore, it made better sense to buy a $270 model with higher specs, shipped, that overall costs me less.

 

[13Gigatons]

Off lease means some company has had it for 3 years, they just lease them they don't buy them. The company that leased them to the company takes them back and needs to find a place to dump them.

The 22" for $269 is kinda pricey for a 3 year monitor.

 

[kamranziadar]

Damn it is CRT, i thought LCD

 

[wmansfield]

I just ordered one of the 24" widescreen monitors off ebay for $325 + $28 for 2 year warranty. Going to give me a hernia at 96.2 lbs, but it will be nice.