I've heard exactly what you said at least 50 times. Then all 50 of them changed their tune when they had kids and were forced to be an adult for once. All 50 of them are also still living their lives, spending time with friends, driving nice cars, playing with toys, enjoying rewarding careers, travelling and whatnot. Now they just have some kids.
You're going to end up having kids. You left it open with one of your last statements there. No true conviction is shown and you will cave so quickly to a woman who wants them. Growing up is tough isn't it?
For those who do not want kids, what will you do if unplanned pregnancies happens? So do not say with certainty that you will not have kid in your life. it is unpredictable in some way
For those who do not want kids, what will you do if unplanned pregnancies happens? So do not say with certainty that you will not have kid in your life. it is unpredictable in some way
For all your blowhard "paragon of virtue" unselfish "becoming adult" parents out there, how come you haven't adopted? You'll get to be even more unselfish, almost heroic, by shaping an unwanted child's life, by rescuing him/her from the gutter.
*crickets*
Yeah, some act of "unselfishness" "being adult". You just had one because that's what's been ingrained into us, and evolution takes care of the child liking part and all the warm and fuzzy you get from bringing up a child, even the "sacrifice". It's the same behavior that drives someone to fuck in the first place. Don't try to justify it by some sort of appeal to a higher moral authority.
Well, that's kind of a leap you made from the first to second paragraph. It's nice if you can "dump the kids off at the grandparents." But, lessee, my sister lives in the Southwest and our parents live in Chicago. A couple that my gf and I are friends with have parents--in Korea. etc etc I could go on...
So, kudos to your friends for being local with the grandfolks...some of us actually move away from home when we grow up.
edit-plus, you know, not all people are great candidates for grandparent status, just like with parents. I won't go into detail here, but my mother's issues have already generally cut her out from her grandchildrens' lives...
For all your blowhard "paragon of virtue" unselfish "becoming adult" parents out there, how come you haven't adopted? You'll get to be even more unselfish, almost heroic, by shaping an unwanted child's life, by rescuing him/her from the gutter.
*crickets*
Yeah, some act of "unselfishness" "being adult". You just had one because that's what's been ingrained into us, and evolution takes care of the child liking part and all the warm and fuzzy you get from bringing up a child, even the "sacrifice". It's the same behavior that drives someone to fuck in the first place. Don't try to justify it by some sort of appeal to a higher moral authority.
Hmm. I don't have kids, but I do hope to have some one day. My main reason is that I think they'll make me happier. It's purely selfish on my part. I also would prefer them to be carrying my genes, also purely for selfish reasons.
I doubt that many parents think they're "paragons of virtue" just because they did what untold billions of other humans did since the beginning of the species. I do think a lot of them really did find happiness in being parents though. I don't really see the point in specifying that liking the child is instinctual behavior as though that detracts from it's worth. It still makes you happy. Why not use nature to your ultimate benefit?
It's okay, those who don't want kids will take that choice with them to their graves.
so i guess this is a bad thread to announce that I'm going to be a dad soon, huh?