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Sho'Nuff

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Been playing the game for the past few hours. Some thoughts:

1. Graphics are good but not great. Hit or miss really. Rico is really friggin ugly but the islands and environments (minus the LOD on the trees) are really nice. Explosions are gorgeous and really fun.

2. Cities/villages/military bases generally have very interesting layouts and are pretty fun to liberate. Not sure how I will feel after doing so for the nth time, but for the past few hours its been a blast figuring out all sorts of different ways to blow stuff up.

3. The grapnel is just awesome. I am constantly finding new ways to use it. Very fun to tether various objects people to each other, especially when paired with the rocket grenades.

4. Some of the vehicle controls are wonky. Ok, driving in general is wonky and helicopters are pretty iffy too. All other modalities of transport are pretty easy to control.

5. If you liked JC1 and 2, you will like 3. Partly cause its more of the same, and partly because it builds on everything JC2 did well.

All in all - 8/10 would buy day 1 again. That is saying something because I am getting to be a crotchety old man when it comes to games.

FWIW - I am not experiencing any of the performance issues others are reporting. My only complaint is that FXAA tends to make the game look like crud IMO, but that is not really the devs fault.
 

Sho'Nuff

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Wonder if he's just playing on a slow PC because that doesn't look so hot.

The graphics are not stellar, but based on my experience I would guess that he is not running all settings maxed. The game looks a good bit better on my PC with all the options turned up. It won't win any graphical fidelity awards, but they are good enough.

I am now off to find a bunch of stuff to tether to a wind turbine.
 

Harrod

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Wonder if he's just playing on a slow PC because that doesn't look so hot.

Ya, I kindof find that hard to believe that he would have such a crap pc, I'm sure he makes quite a bit from youtube.

I'm about to run the game with the specs in my signature, I will let you all know about what fps I get with the settings at their highest for a 1080p monitor.

Edit: So far, I'm not too impressed with the graphics problem I am having, I hope Nvidia card owners aren't seeing this as well, I am upgrading to the beta drivers for my card right now. FPS observed at 70-40 fps range, and seemed to be at around 60 most of the time.

Edit 2: Well it's not just me, looks like there is an issue with AMD cards. http://steamcommunity.com/app/225540/discussions/0/485623406959730474/














There isn't some kind of view distance setting, everything that could be set was set to very high with vsync set to off.

Edit 3: This is with the beta driver installed, no change, it's funny how they released a game and no one ran it on AMD's flagship cards.



Going to the Radeon-Software-Crimson-Edition-15.11.1-Beta-64Bit-Win10-Win8.1-Win7-Nov30 fixed the issue.

 
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Whitestar127

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Pardon if this is a silly question, but I'm seeing this in the new driver release notes:

Added or updated the following SLI profiles:
• Fallout 4 - SLI profile added
• Just Cause 3 - Single-SLI profile added
• Umbrella Corps - SLI profile added

What exactly does "Single-SLI profile" mean?


EDIT: Uh oh, apparently it means SLI not supported by game. Will need patch from devs to support it. :'(
 
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Harrod

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I'm enjoying the game so far, I'm tempted to call into work and just play this. I would say that the graphics are an improvement over JC2. It's kindof like the jump from Oblivion to Skyrim, the game mechanics are pretty good as well, flying seems alittle easier on the keyboard than the previous game.

Here are 2 screen shots where I was playing around in a stolen plane.





The game has crashed once, but for the most part has been pretty stable for me, and FPS hovered around 55-60 fps while I was observing it.
 

Whitestar127

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Dec 2, 2011
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Pardon if this is a silly question, but I'm seeing this in the new driver release notes:

Added or updated the following SLI profiles:
• Fallout 4 - SLI profile added
• Just Cause 3 - Single-SLI profile added
• Umbrella Corps - SLI profile added

What exactly does "Single-SLI profile" mean?


EDIT: Uh oh, apparently it means SLI not supported by game. Will need patch from devs to support it. :'(

And now this: http://wccftech.com/sli-ight-confus...-definitely-possible-nvidia-employee-mispoke/
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Well... it's not bad... :\

I spent quite a bit of time playing last night (Xbone) and while it does seem like it's largely the same as JC2, there are annoyances that have made the game far less enjoyable than JC2. I may have to revisit JC2 to see how different it actually is, or if I'm viewing through the rose colored glasses of nostalgia.

The HUD is really the biggest problem. This game is all about chaos, but in all the chaos it becomes practically impossible to see what's going on. They've done away with a minimap of any kind, meaning you need to rely almost entirely on the on screen indicator for objectives. Unfortunately it's damn near impossible to see half the time. Same goes for the reticle. Your grapple will auto-lock onto things and jump all over the place from center-screen to target and back. Between that and the reticle being extremely hard to see, it can be really hard to target anything with a gun. Compounding that, the enemies are bullet sponges. The guys wearing body armor seem to withstand several head shots, so even if your aim is good you can easily get overwhelmed by a large squad of guys soaking up entire mags. There doesn't seem to be any auto-aim, which is fine, but third person shooters can be hard enough to aim as is, all of these add up to the actual gun combat being pretty poor. And maybe I just haven't figured out what button to hit to do it yet, but there doesn't seem to be a way to aim down the barrel in first person.

Technically, as others have said the graphics aren't on par with some other AAA games, but they're decent, and the explosions look good. Load times are horrendous, but I've read that might be an Xbox problem.

I certainly hope they continue patching.

Edit: Realized I forgot to finish a sentence.
 
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heymrdj

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Well... it's not bad... :\

I spent quite a bit of time playing last night (Xbone) and while it does seem like it's largely the same as JC2, there are annoyances that have made the game far less enjoyable than JC2. I may have to revisit JC2 to see how different it actually is, or if I'm viewing through the rose colored glasses of nostalgia.

The HUD is really the biggest problem. This game is all about chaos, but in all the chaos it becomes practically impossible to see what's going on. They've done away with a minimap of any kind, meaning you need to rely almost entirely on the on screen indicator for objectives. Unfortunately it's damn near impossible to see half the time. Same goes for the reticle. Your grapple will auto-lock onto things and jump all over the place from center-screen to target and back. Between that and the reticle being extremely hard to see,. Compounding that, the enemies are bullet sponges. The guys wearing body armor seem to withstand several head shots, so even if your aim is good you can easily get overwhelmed by a large squad of guys soaking up entire mags. There doesn't seem to be any auto-aim, which is fine, but third person shooters can be hard enough to aim as is, all of these add up to the actual gun combat being pretty poor. And maybe I just haven't figured out what button to hit to do it yet, but there doesn't seem to be a way to aim down the barrel in first person.

Technically, as others have said the graphics aren't on par with some other AAA games, but they're decent, and the explosions look good. Load times are horrendous, but I've read that might be an Xbox problem.

I certainly hope they continue patching.

I've been waiting to see the reviews before I purchased. I know I'll definitely purchase for my PC. Even though my PC is older and not capable of pushing this game at full performance vs the Xbox One I have, the mods are really what made JC2. I absolutely have to be able to mod the game.
 

gorcorps

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... And maybe I just haven't figured out what button to hit to do it yet, but there doesn't seem to be a way to aim down the barrel in first person.

Technically, as others have said the graphics aren't on par with some other AAA games, but they're decent, and the explosions look good. Load times are horrendous, but I've read that might be an Xbox problem.

I certainly hope they continue patching.

There's a way to aim down the sights, but it might be tied to a skill or specific weapons. While the game was installing on my PS4 it allowed me to play around on "boom island" or w/e it's called. I was able to look down the sights with R3 IIRC (might have been L3). I also just found a sniper rifle in the game that let me look down the scope, and that was the first gun I found in game that I could look down the sights for.

Anyway, I played for a couple hours last night and I'm fairly disappointed. I'll play some more, but one of the things that stood out to me was how bad it looked with a lot of flickering lighting even outside. Draw distance was quite low, even for a console (similar open world games already out have looked far better). Animations for character movement is pretty bad too.

Gameplay wise it feels clunky, and the control scheme seems off. I haven't looked to see if it can be changed but I don't really care for it. I don't remember JC2 feeling like this. JC2 felt smooth and the control scheme was natural, JC3 feels clunky and kind of slow because I'm fumbling around with what button to push. Framerate issues when there's a lot of explosions haven't helped with this feeling.

The only good thing I could say about this over JC2 is that I actually enjoy the cutscenes so far, and I'm not cringing every time a character talks. The voice acting isn't great, but it's not abysmal like it was in JC2. I've chuckled a few times here and there already, so that's good.
 

BoberFett

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I played some more and did find that I can use the sniper rifle with a right-stick click (Xbone), so maybe it's just weapon dependent. Sure would be nice to have that option with every weapon, even if it's just iron sights, but oh well.

It felt a little better last night, but I agree about just not feeling as smooth as JC2. As I said, I'm going to have to go back and try it again, JC3 came with a download code for JC2 as a native Xbone version, so that's cool.
 

gorcorps

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Played some more myself. The weird light flickering I noticed when I first played didn't seem to be there, so maybe it was just wasn't fully installed to the PS4 when it let me play.

Either way, the load times are the biggest issue right now IMO. The gameplay is good enough that I'd be having fun if it didn't take a few minutes to restart a challenge, or reload if I died.
 

clok1966

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The thing with the cows had me crying from laughing so hard.

not sure if its his accent, but his sense of Humor is great, I watch robbaz videos all the time.

I have been wondering about this new one, JC2 was a good game, I really enjoyed it and got addicted to 100% destroyed bases and went on a reign of terror destroying bases wherever i found them. Where i lost interest was the missions, some where dang hard. One where you had to run a car off the road proved impossible to me and i gave the game up .

been so close to a full price purchase, if FO4 was not out I would.
 

BoberFett

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I played a few more hours last night. It's growing on me.

Busy today, but I'll try to go more into details later.
 

aigomorla

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my thoughts on this game...

It gets boring fast... maybe because im stomping outposts and liberating cities, but the game has very poor mechanics outside blowing things up.

Precision aiming is a joke.... its a trait on top which to me is a joke.
Headshots are almost meaningless, it seems like just spraying at the body is a better tactic then skillfully trying to place head shots on your targets.
Driving... OMG... Driving absolutely SUCKS.... lets not get into this.
Antialaising... has major issues... when it was set, i would be getting random black artifacts.
Outside the comical area's of grapling animals or people to cars and watching them fly, the game seems to get boring fast.

The game does have great voice actors tho... they actually represent the characters they voice act.... by far much better then other games i have played, which i guess makes the story somewhat enjoyable... but the mechanics... sigh... the mechanics... :\

If i didnt get the game on sale, id probably rage hard at how this could actually be a AAA title.

Anyhow i'll try to gun though the rest, but the challenges are unappealing, very difficult to do in some aspects because the control system in this game is horrendous.

But my intial take on the game.... its definitely not worth 60 dollars... im still a little bitter i paid 33 dollars, however, im glad it was 33 vs 60.
 
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BlueWeasel

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my thoughts on this game...

It gets boring fast...

Yeah, I'm hesitant about getting it for that fact. I really liked JC2 at first but got bored after the initial novelty wore off.

I didn't care for the shooting mechanics in JC2...has the newer game improved on this at all? It doesn't appear this is the case after watching gameplay videos.
 

gorcorps

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I played a few more hours last night. It's growing on me.

Busy today, but I'll try to go more into details later.

I'm liking it more right now too. Shooting mechanics are still terrible (and part of that as mentioned before is not being able to see the damn reticle) but serviceable. I spent a couple hours clearing out the handfull of islands you start next to and did a couple missions. I had fun, but I'd have more fun if I could see where I'm aiming.
 

Sho'Nuff

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I'm liking it more right now too. Shooting mechanics are still terrible (and part of that as mentioned before is not being able to see the damn reticle) but serviceable. I spent a couple hours clearing out the handfull of islands you start next to and did a couple missions. I had fun, but I'd have more fun if I could see where I'm aiming.

Yeah an FOV mod would be helpful. Half the time I feel like I'm staring at Rico's ass - not willingly of course.

I've liberated a few continents and the game started to drag a bit. So I did what I did with JC2 and decided to use a trainer to advance the game along a bit faster. I have more fun in this game just screwing around than doing this missions or liberating bases so to me, cheating doesn't take anything away from the experience. It just means I don't have to worry about dying during the next "hey, hold my beer and watch this" moment.
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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Yeah an FOV mod would be helpful. Half the time I feel like I'm staring at Rico's ass - not willingly of course.

I've liberated a few continents and the game started to drag a bit. So I did what I did with JC2 and decided to use a trainer to advance the game along a bit faster. I have more fun in this game just screwing around than doing this missions or liberating bases so to me, cheating doesn't take anything away from the experience. It just means I don't have to worry about dying during the next "hey, hold my beer and watch this" moment.

Yeah, I kind of wish I went the PC route to get the modding ability. I had enough fun with JC2 on the 360 though that I thought it wouldn't be needed. I guess I just have a lower attention span these days and find better things to do... I'm getting old :'(
 
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