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SirChadwick

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Sorry guys....I deleted this post. I had no idea that I couldn't mention auction sites on anandtech.
 

SirChadwick

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I reposted this for everyone who hasn't seen it. Please take off your link! That's why it was locked!!!!
 

Mac

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This is a repeat of a post which I did that was locked for reasons known only by the MOD but please read and consider when thinking about doing business with UBID. Here is the original post:

After reading through a post yesterday on a hot CPU deal, I decided to take a link over to UBID. A strange but nauseating sense of deja vu came over me as I punched through the different auctions. Could this be "Son of Egghead"?

I purchased a few things from Egghead last summer prior to infamous fiasco when hackers got into their database and Egghead had to warn people to begin checking their credit card statements. Even before that, I was pretty fed up with Egghead auctions. Setting aside the fact that they botched orders so badly (sent wrong stuff, missing items, didn't match specs, etc.), what really turned me off was what appeared to be obvious shill bidding. If you are not familiar with the practice, shill bids are fake bids placed either by or in behalf of the seller to artificially inflate the selling price or to prevent sale at a price lower than the seller wants to accept.

I saw it happen repeatedly when large quantities of an item went up for sale, bids would be made for the entire lot at very marginal prices. Although I have no proof, it had to be a shill bid because a volume deal at the bid price no longer made economic sense. When you added the bid price with the S&H, which almost always was charged per item bid, the product could have been purchased cheaper from other sources. Furthermore, given the volitility of pc component prices, the usual delays which were common in Egghead auctions would have been unacceptable. In other words, the price was too high for the level of risk involved. I cannot imagine a reseller entering into that type of transaction.

Well, since yesterday I have been monitoring several UBID auctions and it appears to me that there is shill bidding on UBID, too. The obvious one is where someone has placed a bid for an entire lot of 111 AMD T-Birds 1.2/200MHz at $85 each with an estimated shipping charge of $9. Yeah, that would be an OK price for a one-off but not if you are in the business. Consider that this is technology being phased out for the 266 FSB, the price of Tbirds continue to fall, factor in the amount of time it will take to receive and then turn around for resale...and then someone is placing a quantity bid which is only 4 or 5 dollars less than they can purchase off the web??? This smells like &%$)*&@#$.

Forgive me for the rant...but am I just being paranoid or do others see the same pattern? Is there anything that can be done about this? I'm normally skeptical about regulations but this really appears to be simply another form of consumer fraud.

Again, I have no proof and this may be a perfectly legitmate web-site...but it sure makes you wonder?

Update - Before this auction ended yesterday, the same suspected shill bidder, an "nb of San Diego" place another bid of $89 for the entire lot of 111 cpu's shortly before the close of the auction. Yes, it could have been legitimate but a more likely scenario is that the seller, UBID in this instance, didn't want to sell for less that $94 which was the next bid increment up. After adding in the inflated shipping, it was probably a breakeven deal.[b/]
 

QueenShanequa

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Jul 21, 2001
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I'm too lazy to mail that thing in. It is a good deal though. I have never done business with Ubid. They always seem kind of cheesy. Q
 

AznRyda

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Jul 8, 2001
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Isn't this a repost? I swear I saw it two or three pages back. wasn't it locked as well? I believe so.
 

halik

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hey, does this work even when you've yoused the 20 off 40 one already?
 

DjmCam

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Mar 1, 2001
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good deal but anandtech mods consider this as an auction. Search for ubid and you'll see that virtually every thread pertaining to them is locked for being an auction.
 

Kenny0829

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Nov 5, 2000
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Hey MAC,
Don't know if you'r right about this, I saw this going on also, and I just figgured it was the
"ebay" syndrome, where something that's worth $50.00 sometimes sells for $30.00 and the next guy buys it for $70.00. Oh well, to each his own, I always wonder if the guy that pays to much , follows through with the sale ?
Me, I sorts of like Ubid, If you don't get the fever, you can get it at your price.
I bid on and chased a Gforce2GTS for 8 or 9 auctions, cause I wouldn't go higher.
Finally got it for $69.00 and $7.00 s/h total $76.00, and I sent in the 20 off 40 rebate that was available.
Final price, $56.00 for a Gforce2 GTS 32meg, and they got it to me kinda quick,(5 days)
I'm HAPPY !!!!!
 

Knowit2

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Apr 4, 2001
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UBID IS OFFERING THESE DEALS BECAUSE THEY SELL CRAP!!!!

I GOT SCREWED WITH A PULSAR ($300) WATCH I BOUGHT THERE, BOGUS WARRANTY LASTED 91 DAYS.

YOU WILL GET SCREWED TOO....

READ THE GOMEZ.COM REVIEWS ON UBID.. MAKES TIGERDIRECT LOOK GREAT....
 

AznRyda

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Jul 8, 2001
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<< UBID IS OFFERING THESE DEALS BECAUSE THEY SELL CRAP!!!!

I GOT SCREWED WITH A PULSAR ($300) WATCH I BOUGHT THERE, BOGUS WARRANTY LASTED 91 DAYS.

YOU WILL GET SCREWED TOO....

READ THE GOMEZ.COM REVIEWS ON UBID.. MAKES TIGERDIRECT LOOK GREAT....
>>



thanks for yelling in my face. I'll be sure to take your opinions more seriously now.
 

tazmania99

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Mar 19, 2001
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I personally do not like buying from uBid becasue I had very bad experience from them. I ordered a PCI modem from them but they didn't ship with a driver. Since the modem is a discontinued item from IBM. I was not able to download the driver from IBM website. I called uBid about this problem but they said they did not advertise that the driver would come with the modem! WTF? Why do I want a modem without a driver?! With no driver the modem is not gonna work! I returned the modem but they charged me 15% restocking fee plus no refund for the shipping! uBid is SUX!!! :|
 

emonkey

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Dec 2, 1999
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i was just watching another ipaq 3150 and some prick jumped the whole lot of 50 from $9 to 109. i know thats how it works, but it still sucks because the only way to win is to do some last minute sniping.
 

Nutzo

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Apr 24, 2000
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Ubid's alot like E*bay. Sometime you can find a good or even Great deals. However, usually the prices get bid up way too high. You also need to watch the shipping prices, they are usually high.

I also suspect shill bidding based on what I've seen.

However, I have found some good prices, and have even bought stuff &amp; later sold it on E*bay at a profit. I've probably bought almost 2 dozen items and haven't had any problems with messed up orders.

 

Qman71

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Jan 21, 2001
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chadeades, are you still sticking to your story that you have nothing to gain by promoting ubid? You posted this once, ubid is an auction site which is why that thread was locked, now you're posting it again, and this thread will also be locked.
 

dakata24

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Aug 7, 2000
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this is gonna get locked like the last thread, but thanks chadeades.

got a number nine tnt2 32mb m64 agp video card for $15 after $20 rebate. i know this is not a great video card, but it'll beat the ATI Mach64 video card that's in my bro's pc right now.

i probably should have gotten in on that voodoo 3 2000 deal that was on clearence at OD for $29 a while back. when i went to the store, they actually had some in stock.
 

858diver

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Dec 8, 2000
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Strange - I am a sucker and checked out the link. For some reason, the coupon does not load. This happen to anyone else?

Perhaps there is a kind soul out there who would be willing to e-mail the image to me - thanks!
 
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