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College is great, you meet so many interesting people and form all different types of relationships, the group of buddies you see 24/7, the girl you only see at the random party but always hook up with, the girl you absolutely can't get out of your mind... And you learn some things in college too, that you'll never get anywhere else. I always kinda laughed when a cute girl would realize for the first time that the 5 or 6 guys paying her visits on a daily basis where doing so not for the purpose of intellectual stimulation, but for the hope of some other stimulation... I was like c'mon, do you honestly THINK those dudes (especially the "Undeclared" majors) were coming to your room at 1 in the morning cause they "just wanted someone to talk to"?!?!
Don't get me wrong, I did feel bad for those girls. But I was never able to identify with them... until I bought the Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 motherboard.
Although this was my first system build, I believe I can say that I am at least as knowledgeable as most people on this forum. I did countless hours of reasearch before purchasing the parts, and read many reviews, especially the ones on Anandtech. The following months after I completed my system were spent on the phone with Gigabyte and AMD tech support. I signed up with 5 different hardware forums. In a short time, I met countless other enthusiasts like myself who were experiencing many agravating problems with this mobo. Incorrect temperature readings, dual channel instabilites, errors in the BIOS... you can read more about it here. Dealing with Gigabyte tech support was a nightmare. I called at least 10 different times, each time waiting on hold for 20min before getting a chance to try and convince a guy that had clearly learned english 3 months ago, that yes my board does support dual channel, and yes it is not stable, and yes the temperature readings are off. To be fair, I don't think those guys knew what was going on anymore than I did. One day I spoke to someone nice enough to admit they were "aware" of the issues and that they were just waiting on word from the BIOS dept.
And today I read Anandtech's nForce4 article... Here are some excerpts:
Is it me, or is this kind of behavior not acceptable? And I'm not talking only about Gigabyte. I read Anandtech's review of this board before I bought it because I think this is a legitimate hardware site and I respect all of your opinions. But nowhere in that review did I see anything about memory instabilities or problems within the BIOS. And now, in this nForce4 article, they say that they were aware of the problems of the K8NSNXP-939. Then WHY wasn't it edited in on the initial review? And more importantly, why does Gigabyte deserve an article from this respected site, where the writer sounds as giddy as a schoolgirl at an Nsync concert?
Well I guess it's an established fact that guys usually have one thing on their minds when they're talking to girls, and maybe the only thing on a motherboard manufacturer's mind is money. But you know what, girls don't have to take that crap from us, and WE don't have to take it from the tech industry.
Don't get me wrong, I did feel bad for those girls. But I was never able to identify with them... until I bought the Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 motherboard.
Although this was my first system build, I believe I can say that I am at least as knowledgeable as most people on this forum. I did countless hours of reasearch before purchasing the parts, and read many reviews, especially the ones on Anandtech. The following months after I completed my system were spent on the phone with Gigabyte and AMD tech support. I signed up with 5 different hardware forums. In a short time, I met countless other enthusiasts like myself who were experiencing many agravating problems with this mobo. Incorrect temperature readings, dual channel instabilites, errors in the BIOS... you can read more about it here. Dealing with Gigabyte tech support was a nightmare. I called at least 10 different times, each time waiting on hold for 20min before getting a chance to try and convince a guy that had clearly learned english 3 months ago, that yes my board does support dual channel, and yes it is not stable, and yes the temperature readings are off. To be fair, I don't think those guys knew what was going on anymore than I did. One day I spoke to someone nice enough to admit they were "aware" of the issues and that they were just waiting on word from the BIOS dept.
And today I read Anandtech's nForce4 article... Here are some excerpts:
Look, I'm pissed. I feel cheated, mislead, and I feel used. Now I know how those girls feel. Ok, I don't know if it's a given, or if it's common knowledge that some motherboard models are just "beta versions", to be tested by the public for the purpose of coming out first with the "next gen mobos." Do I have a legititate complaint here? I think I do. I know that mistakes are made, I know things are never perfect. But what really bothers me here is the lack of accountability. It took months for Gigabyte to even admit that they were aware of instabilites, especially memory related, on the K8NSNXP-939. They had us testing 6 different beta BIOSs like guinea pigs, with no documention on their part. And now they have a new model out, the K8NS-Ultra. It's identical to the K8NSNXP-939 except it's about $50 cheaper and they ditched the DPS. And now nForce4 is almost ready. And according to Anandtech, they worked the memory isses out. And here I am, along with many other owners of this motherboard - with our fingers up our butts." Gigabyte is first to market with an nForce4 board..."
"There have also been many end users who have reported issues with memory on the earlier nF3 Ultra board, so we wanted to see if that area had also improved in the nForce4 update."
"The memory performance, a very sore spot with the Gigabyte nF3 Ultra design, also seems very solid. This Gigabyte board was a joy to test and was exceptionally stable in all our benchmarks. It certainly appears that Gigabyte heard the litany of complaints about memory performance with the K8NSNXP-939 because the K8NXP-9 is both fast and stable with any memory that we threw at it."
Is it me, or is this kind of behavior not acceptable? And I'm not talking only about Gigabyte. I read Anandtech's review of this board before I bought it because I think this is a legitimate hardware site and I respect all of your opinions. But nowhere in that review did I see anything about memory instabilities or problems within the BIOS. And now, in this nForce4 article, they say that they were aware of the problems of the K8NSNXP-939. Then WHY wasn't it edited in on the initial review? And more importantly, why does Gigabyte deserve an article from this respected site, where the writer sounds as giddy as a schoolgirl at an Nsync concert?
Well I guess it's an established fact that guys usually have one thing on their minds when they're talking to girls, and maybe the only thing on a motherboard manufacturer's mind is money. But you know what, girls don't have to take that crap from us, and WE don't have to take it from the tech industry.