Just got accepted to DeVry University

[MisterCornell]

The point of going to college is not to acquire a diploma whose name will impress people. The point is acquire useful knowledge and skills that add value to the economy.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser
You have to get accepted to get into Devry?

I guess congrats then.

Yes they make you read this little postcard to make sure you can pronounce the words on it.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser

Originally posted by: arcenite
Hey you can all make fun of the school if you want, but it's better then being made fun of when you're a 40 year old man working at mcdonalds. If you don't have something nice to say, just go away :|

Chill dude, I said congrats. I didn't know you had to apply. As long as your doing something to improve yourself in life, its all good.

Can DeVry actually improve anything? I'm not trying to be an ass, I just always thought DeVry was like one of those crappy technical schools that nobody in the professional world respects.

In the professional world nobody ever, and I mean EVER talks about where you got your degree. Except the noobs - you can always tell a noob because he tells you where he went to college.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser

Originally posted by: arcenite
Hey you can all make fun of the school if you want, but it's better then being made fun of when you're a 40 year old man working at mcdonalds. If you don't have something nice to say, just go away :|

Chill dude, I said congrats. I didn't know you had to apply. As long as your doing something to improve yourself in life, its all good.

Can DeVry actually improve anything? I'm not trying to be an ass, I just always thought DeVry was like one of those crappy technical schools that nobody in the professional world respects.

In the professional world nobody ever, and I mean EVER talks about where you got your degree. Except the noobs - you can always tell a noob because he tells you where he went to college.

<- Pre Noob

 

[Aimster]

I watched a report on t.v about these kind of schools a few weeks back.

They wil admit anyone and pass anyone.

They make it seem like it is hard to get admitted, but they will accept anyone who applies.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: Aimster
I watched a report on t.v about these kind of schools a few weeks back.

They wil admit anyone and pass anyone.

They make it seem like it is hard to get admitted, but they will accept anyone who applies.

Why me

 

[kalster]

wow, lot of angry people in this thread

i was wondering what exactly does your program include , is it similar to computer engineering? best of luck with it, i think school/gpa matters initially in a job, after you have some experience it is not a big factor, (unless ofcourse someone went to MIT or Caltech or something),

btw i have a Masters in Comp Sci from Univ of Southern California myself

 

[MaxDSP]

First of all, arcenite, conrats on being accepted. I'd like to throw a word of caution to you though about Devry. During my time there, I met several students that had transferred TO Devry FROM other official Universities, because they were unhappy with the education they recieved at the other places. However, most of the students there seemed to be idiots that seemed like they were only there because they didn't get into other colleges (no offense). (IIRC, the requirement back in 2000 was to have an ACT score of at least 18 (I had a 26)). As the semesters went on, students started dropping out as the courses got "tougher."

It was around halfway through my second year that I thought about dropping out and going to a regular 4-year univ, but then I thought of all the time and money I had invested thus far and decided to stick it out till the end (I was on a trimester schedule). I got a Bachelor's from there in 2003 (by that time, Devry had been able to change it's official name from DeVry Institute of Technology to DeVry University).

My animosity towards the school grew as I was nearing the grad date as career services wasn't helping me with planning sh!t after graduation. The job fairs they set up drew temp agencies looking for data entrists and UPS looking for package handlers. I was lucky that I had a job through my time at school which is where I stayed and got some experience. I recieved a few emails from the "career counselors" through the year but it was only to ask for an update of my job situation, whether I had found anything or not. I guess since I was already working, they could add me to the stats of that year, the stats they advertise during their sales pitch ("95% of grads find jobs within 6 months of graduation" or some sh!t).

I grauated in summer 2003, and stayed at the job I had already doing basic data entry with some tech support mixed in. I started looking for a new job in January 2004, but didn't have much luck till I got laid off in November 2004 due to the company closing it's office at the location. I got 3 interviews within 2 weeks of being laid off (thanks to some refs, not my resume). Out of those 3 interviews I had, I got 2 job offers (3rd company was advertising a job I'd rather not have done anyway), and chose the one that was going to build up my experience.

Yes, I'm sure the fact that I even had a Bachelor's helped my resume out a bit, but I'm more than sure that if I had gotten a degree at a 4-year Univ, it would've looked tons better on the resume. I guess in the initial part of your career the school you got your degree from does matter, but as soon as you get your foot in the door and start gaining experience, it becomes much less of an issue.

The interesting part of all this is that I have several friends in the IT industry that went to better schools, but they don't know sh!t about IT, yet they have better positions and make a lot more money than me. This is where your bullsh!ting skills come into play...if you have that, you're going places. I'm still trying to get the hang of it though...

Good luck with whatever your decision is.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: MaxDSP
First of all, arcenite, conrats on being accepted. I'd like to throw a word of caution to you though about Devry. During my time there, I met several students that had transferred TO Devry FROM other official Universities, because they were unhappy with the education they recieved at the other places. However, most of the students there seemed to be idiots that seemed like they were only there because they didn't get into other colleges (no offense). (IIRC, the requirement back in 2000 was to have an ACT score of at least 18 (I had a 26)). As the semesters went on, students started dropping out as the courses got "tougher."

It was around halfway through my second year that I thought about dropping out and going to a regular 4-year univ, but then I thought of all the time and money I had invested thus far and decided to stick it out till the end (I was on a trimester schedule). I got a Bachelor's from there in 2003 (by that time, Devry had been able to change it's official name from DeVry Institute of Technology to DeVry University).

My animosity towards the school grew as I was nearing the grad date as career services wasn't helping me with planning sh!t after graduation. The job fairs they set up drew temp agencies looking for data entrists and UPS looking for package handlers. I was lucky that I had a job through my time at school which is where I stayed and got some experience. I recieved a few emails from the "career counselors" through the year but it was only to ask for an update of my job situation, whether I had found anything or not. I guess since I was already working, they could add me to the stats of that year, the stats they advertise during their sales pitch ("95% of grads find jobs within 6 months of graduation" or some sh!t).

I grauated in summer 2003, and stayed at the job I had already doing basic data entry with some tech support mixed in. I started looking for a new job in January 2004, but didn't have much luck till I got laid off in November 2004 due to the company closing it's office at the location. I got 3 interviews within 2 weeks of being laid off (thanks to some refs, not my resume). Out of those 3 interviews I had, I got 2 job offers (3rd company was advertising a job I'd rather not have done anyway), and chose the one that was going to build up my experience.

Yes, I'm sure the fact that I even had a Bachelor's helped my resume out a bit, but I'm more than sure that if I had gotten a degree at a 4-year Univ, it would've looked tons better on the resume. I guess in the initial part of your career the school you got your degree from does matter, but as soon as you get your foot in the door and start gaining experience, it becomes much less of an issue.

The interesting part of all this is that I have several friends in the IT industry that went to better schools, but they don't know sh!t about IT, yet they have better positions and make a lot more money than me. This is where your bullsh!ting skills come into play...if you have that, you're going places. I'm still trying to get the hang of it though...

Good luck with whatever your decision is.

Man I am so confused, thank you for the information though...

 

[dawks]

Originally posted by: Aimster
I watched a report on t.v about these kind of schools a few weeks back.

They wil admit anyone and pass anyone.

They make it seem like it is hard to get admitted, but they will accept anyone who applies.

I did the admissions exam for DeVry in Calgary, and it was nothing more then grade 10 math and english questions. What a joke. I changed my mind mostly based on that.. If anyone can get in..

Edit: As MaxDSP seemed to allude to, DeVry is the school for people who 'cant handle public university'.

DeVry will give you an education, and chances are, you'll get a job, but you'll be making less, and possibly working for, somone who went to a public University. If thats for you, great! Do it. As you said, its better then being a 40 y/o working at Mcdee's.

 

[MaxDSP]

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: MaxDSP
First of all, arcenite, conrats on being accepted. I'd like to throw a word of caution to you though about Devry. During my time there, I met several students that had transferred TO Devry FROM other official Universities, because they were unhappy with the education they recieved at the other places. However, most of the students there seemed to be idiots that seemed like they were only there because they didn't get into other colleges (no offense). (IIRC, the requirement back in 2000 was to have an ACT score of at least 18 (I had a 26)). As the semesters went on, students started dropping out as the courses got "tougher."

It was around halfway through my second year that I thought about dropping out and going to a regular 4-year univ, but then I thought of all the time and money I had invested thus far and decided to stick it out till the end (I was on a trimester schedule). I got a Bachelor's from there in 2003 (by that time, Devry had been able to change it's official name from DeVry Institute of Technology to DeVry University).

My animosity towards the school grew as I was nearing the grad date as career services wasn't helping me with planning sh!t after graduation. The job fairs they set up drew temp agencies looking for data entrists and UPS looking for package handlers. I was lucky that I had a job through my time at school which is where I stayed and got some experience. I recieved a few emails from the "career counselors" through the year but it was only to ask for an update of my job situation, whether I had found anything or not. I guess since I was already working, they could add me to the stats of that year, the stats they advertise during their sales pitch ("95% of grads find jobs within 6 months of graduation" or some sh!t).

I grauated in summer 2003, and stayed at the job I had already doing basic data entry with some tech support mixed in. I started looking for a new job in January 2004, but didn't have much luck till I got laid off in November 2004 due to the company closing it's office at the location. I got 3 interviews within 2 weeks of being laid off (thanks to some refs, not my resume). Out of those 3 interviews I had, I got 2 job offers (3rd company was advertising a job I'd rather not have done anyway), and chose the one that was going to build up my experience.

Yes, I'm sure the fact that I even had a Bachelor's helped my resume out a bit, but I'm more than sure that if I had gotten a degree at a 4-year Univ, it would've looked tons better on the resume. I guess in the initial part of your career the school you got your degree from does matter, but as soon as you get your foot in the door and start gaining experience, it becomes much less of an issue.

The interesting part of all this is that I have several friends in the IT industry that went to better schools, but they don't know sh!t about IT, yet they have better positions and make a lot more money than me. This is where your bullsh!ting skills come into play...if you have that, you're going places. I'm still trying to get the hang of it though...

Good luck with whatever your decision is.

Man I am so confused, thank you for the information though...

whats confusing, my post or just the factors that you need to consider going into this?

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: MaxDSP
First of all, arcenite, conrats on being accepted. I'd like to throw a word of caution to you though about Devry. During my time there, I met several students that had transferred TO Devry FROM other official Universities, because they were unhappy with the education they recieved at the other places. However, most of the students there seemed to be idiots that seemed like they were only there because they didn't get into other colleges (no offense). (IIRC, the requirement back in 2000 was to have an ACT score of at least 18 (I had a 26)). As the semesters went on, students started dropping out as the courses got "tougher."

It was around halfway through my second year that I thought about dropping out and going to a regular 4-year univ, but then I thought of all the time and money I had invested thus far and decided to stick it out till the end (I was on a trimester schedule). I got a Bachelor's from there in 2003 (by that time, Devry had been able to change it's official name from DeVry Institute of Technology to DeVry University).

My animosity towards the school grew as I was nearing the grad date as career services wasn't helping me with planning sh!t after graduation. The job fairs they set up drew temp agencies looking for data entrists and UPS looking for package handlers. I was lucky that I had a job through my time at school which is where I stayed and got some experience. I recieved a few emails from the "career counselors" through the year but it was only to ask for an update of my job situation, whether I had found anything or not. I guess since I was already working, they could add me to the stats of that year, the stats they advertise during their sales pitch ("95% of grads find jobs within 6 months of graduation" or some sh!t).

I grauated in summer 2003, and stayed at the job I had already doing basic data entry with some tech support mixed in. I started looking for a new job in January 2004, but didn't have much luck till I got laid off in November 2004 due to the company closing it's office at the location. I got 3 interviews within 2 weeks of being laid off (thanks to some refs, not my resume). Out of those 3 interviews I had, I got 2 job offers (3rd company was advertising a job I'd rather not have done anyway), and chose the one that was going to build up my experience.

Yes, I'm sure the fact that I even had a Bachelor's helped my resume out a bit, but I'm more than sure that if I had gotten a degree at a 4-year Univ, it would've looked tons better on the resume. I guess in the initial part of your career the school you got your degree from does matter, but as soon as you get your foot in the door and start gaining experience, it becomes much less of an issue.

The interesting part of all this is that I have several friends in the IT industry that went to better schools, but they don't know sh!t about IT, yet they have better positions and make a lot more money than me. This is where your bullsh!ting skills come into play...if you have that, you're going places. I'm still trying to get the hang of it though...

Good luck with whatever your decision is.

Man I am so confused, thank you for the information though...

whats confusing, my post or just the factors that you need to consider going into this?

The factors... I was so set on this school before I knew what I know now, gah.

 

[MaxDSP]

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Man I am so confused, thank you for the information though...

whats confusing, my post or just the factors that you need to consider going into this?

The factors... I was so set on this school before I knew what I know now, gah.

heh...sorry about that. After I graduated and started regretting ever going there, I told myself I'd advise against going to devry for anyone I know personally that was planning on going there (of course, I don't know you personally, but I felt the urge to jump in, couldnt hold my tongue in any longer).

BTW, I forgot to mention that the biggest factor that went into me going to Devry in the first place was because I got a partial (33%) scholarship to it (due to ACT score). I was 18 at the time, and didn't want to put the financial strain on my parents, although I know they wouldve supported me no matter what school I went to.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Man I am so confused, thank you for the information though...

whats confusing, my post or just the factors that you need to consider going into this?

The factors... I was so set on this school before I knew what I know now, gah.

heh...sorry about that. After I graduated and started regretting ever going there, I told myself I'd advise against going to devry for anyone I know personally that was planning on going there (of course, I don't know you personally, but I felt the urge to jump in, couldnt hold my tongue in any longer).

BTW, I forgot to mention that the biggest factor that went into me going to Devry in the first place was because I got a partial (33%) scholarship to it (due to ACT score). I was 18 at the time, and didn't want to put the financial strain on my parents, although I know they wouldve supported me no matter what school I went to.

Sorry? You're doing me a favor, it's just a lot to take in right now. I've been told that DeVry is still accepted at many firms, but there seems to be so much hatred towarads the school it really surprised me. I am not quite sure what to do at this moment.

 

[dawks]

Consider that DeVry will often accept University credits for their degree's, but Universities will rarely accept (if at all) DeVry credits.

University isnt for everyone, and if your one of those, then DeVry is a decent place.

And again, its better then working at WalMart and living in your parents basement the rest of your life.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser

Originally posted by: arcenite
Hey you can all make fun of the school if you want, but it's better then being made fun of when you're a 40 year old man working at mcdonalds. If you don't have something nice to say, just go away :|

Chill dude, I said congrats. I didn't know you had to apply. As long as your doing something to improve yourself in life, its all good.

Can DeVry actually improve anything? I'm not trying to be an ass, I just always thought DeVry was like one of those crappy technical schools that nobody in the professional world respects.

In the professional world nobody ever, and I mean EVER talks about where you got your degree. Except the noobs - you can always tell a noob because he tells you where he went to college.

Riight...Because a Harvard MBA is equal to a University of Phoenix MBA...:roll:

In the professional world it does matter. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

 

[Rhin0]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: edro13
I am a CET grad from Columbus. If you have any questions, lemme know.

Fair warning though... everyone on ATOT thinks DeVry is equal to a high school vocational school.

Nah, I consider DeVry to be halfway between HS and public uni. In there with the CC's. I do regard DV students higher than CC students, because most CC kids have NO direction, and are just there because they're told they have to be there to succeed.

That is total BS dude. I can agree with the forced into a college think but the rest is utter shite. I went to OSU-N (Ohio State Newark) as pre-pharm but decided I wanted something different and transferred to Ohio University, a regional campus of OU. The regional campuses have oustanding programs including one of the best nursing programs around, a great teaching program, and a environmental engineering technology program which is rare. I am in the EVT program and am done with that and working on my BSIH (Bachelors of sciene industrial hygiene) and my second bachelors of environmental health and sciene. The "community college" also allowed me to get certified in lead abatement supervisor/worker, asbestos abatement supervisor/worker, wastewater I, confined space entry rescue, and HAZWOPER. So please don't label community colleges so broadly as being the suck...

Just because you went to Stanford or something doesn't make you any better. Edit: Wait I just saw you got offered a job in highschool. I guess you are that Milo guy from that one movie or something? ROFL...

Guys i'm getting an E-Degree in nuclear and quantum physics after that I think i'll pick up one in genetic engineering. So many companies are going to be calling me...



Oh and arcenite... my cousin went to devry and he got a related job and lives a fine life. Another guy I know went to devry also got a job immediately and takes care of a lot of stuff for this company and travels a lot, seems he did ok too. So good luck...

 

[MaxDSP]

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Man I am so confused, thank you for the information though...

whats confusing, my post or just the factors that you need to consider going into this?

The factors... I was so set on this school before I knew what I know now, gah.

heh...sorry about that. After I graduated and started regretting ever going there, I told myself I'd advise against going to devry for anyone I know personally that was planning on going there (of course, I don't know you personally, but I felt the urge to jump in, couldnt hold my tongue in any longer).

BTW, I forgot to mention that the biggest factor that went into me going to Devry in the first place was because I got a partial (33%) scholarship to it (due to ACT score). I was 18 at the time, and didn't want to put the financial strain on my parents, although I know they wouldve supported me no matter what school I went to.

Sorry? You're doing me a favor, it's just a lot to take in right now. I've been told that DeVry is still accepted at many firms, but there seems to be so much hatred towarads the school it really surprised me. I am not quite sure what to do at this moment.

One other thing...if you do choose to go with Devry, think of the usual University experience you will miss out on (something I still regret also), the horrors of dorm life, cheering for your school's team, parties, fraternities, THE WOMEN (the male /female ratio was like 10/1, if that), etc. Devry pretty much offers NOTHING in the way of social events/interaction.

EDIT: And also remember that even though I had a negative experience, there are others like edro13 that had a positive one and it worked out for them.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
There would be two things that I'd be worried about: The DeVry name and getting a Computer Engineering Technology degree. Do they not offer a Computer Engineering degree?

I was under the impression it was the same thing

Hmm... I'm under the impression that a Computer Engineering Technology degree is a 'dumbed down' version of a Computer Engineering degree. I've seen it like that at some schools. Perhaps it's different at other places.

Engineering Technology is teh systematic technical side of engineering. You are only taught enough to know how to test applications. To give you an idea, a CET would know a brief amount of circuit theory up to KVL and KCL and maybe a bit more. AT some schools, they may be introduced electronics, but that is all. They do not do any theory stuff like Thevinin Equivalence (if they are taught it, it is very brief). Everything is hands on testing and you will don't do that much design work. In essence, it's engineering without the designing and application.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Harvey
Here's a clue for all you lamers who knock others for where they are trying to better themselves and their lives. It's what you know, not where you learn it.

My degree is in business, but I'm an electronic design engineer, self taught with a couple of patents and a decent number of successful product designs. I've met plenty of idiot kids with EE degrees who know something about zero and one, but they don't know squat about how to deal with the infinite number of points in between. They know all about the specs of chips, but they haven't a clue about what it takes to make them into a complete product that can be manufactured at a reasonable cost and won't self destruct over time.

Congrats to anyone going for more knowledge to help them to a better life.

I know exactly what you are talking about. Those are the same kids with 3.4 GPA's in Engineering too. In my school, we have EE majors who come out not knowing the difference between divergance and a gradient. It gets me sad to say the least cause i am struggling and just barely pulling a 2.9 and I tutor my fellow class mates, who then just spit out what I say for the test and forget it the next day. I remember this one kid who took electronics before me and he had no idea how a diode worked. His GPA is around a 3.6.

 

[quakefiend420]

Originally posted by: aphex
Wow, half you guys are complete and utter assholes.

Congrats OP and make the most of your opportunity.....

no shit...at least he's doing something

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser

Originally posted by: arcenite
Hey you can all make fun of the school if you want, but it's better then being made fun of when you're a 40 year old man working at mcdonalds. If you don't have something nice to say, just go away :|

Chill dude, I said congrats. I didn't know you had to apply. As long as your doing something to improve yourself in life, its all good.

Can DeVry actually improve anything? I'm not trying to be an ass, I just always thought DeVry was like one of those crappy technical schools that nobody in the professional world respects.

In the professional world nobody ever, and I mean EVER talks about where you got your degree. Except the noobs - you can always tell a noob because he tells you where he went to college.

Riight...Because a Harvard MBA is equal to a University of Phoenix MBA...:roll:

In the professional world it does matter. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

I think he means a regular BS or BA degree. If so, then yeah, after you work in the industry for a few years, your school's importance becomes a non factor.

 

[OulOat]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
There would be two things that I'd be worried about: The DeVry name and getting a Computer Engineering Technology degree. Do they not offer a Computer Engineering degree?

I was under the impression it was the same thing

Hmm... I'm under the impression that a Computer Engineering Technology degree is a 'dumbed down' version of a Computer Engineering degree. I've seen it like that at some schools. Perhaps it's different at other places.

Engineering Technology is teh systematic technical side of engineering. You are only taught enough to know how to test applications. To give you an idea, a CET would know a brief amount of circuit theory up to KVL and KCL and maybe a bit more. AT some schools, they may be introduced electronics, but that is all. They do not do any theory stuff like Thevinin Equivalence (if they are taught it, it is very brief). Everything is hands on testing and you will don't do that much design work. In essence, it's engineering without the designing and application.

Which equals, less money?

 

[OulOat]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser

Originally posted by: arcenite
Hey you can all make fun of the school if you want, but it's better then being made fun of when you're a 40 year old man working at mcdonalds. If you don't have something nice to say, just go away :|

Chill dude, I said congrats. I didn't know you had to apply. As long as your doing something to improve yourself in life, its all good.

Can DeVry actually improve anything? I'm not trying to be an ass, I just always thought DeVry was like one of those crappy technical schools that nobody in the professional world respects.

In the professional world nobody ever, and I mean EVER talks about where you got your degree. Except the noobs - you can always tell a noob because he tells you where he went to college.

Riight...Because a Harvard MBA is equal to a University of Phoenix MBA...:roll:

In the professional world it does matter. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

I think he means a regular BS or BA degree. If so, then yeah, after you work in the industry for a few years, your school's importance becomes a non factor.

Your first salary affects every following salary (unless you have a dramatic life event, like a career change). You think a Harvard Law grad starting out with 150k is going to be paid the same in 10 years as a 3rd tier law grad starting out at 70k? Not likely. Employers ask for your current salary so they know exactly how much you are worth. If you get a crappy paying job out of college, you are screwing yourself for the rest of your life.

 

[Rhin0]

Originally posted by: OulOat

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
There would be two things that I'd be worried about: The DeVry name and getting a Computer Engineering Technology degree. Do they not offer a Computer Engineering degree?

I was under the impression it was the same thing

Hmm... I'm under the impression that a Computer Engineering Technology degree is a 'dumbed down' version of a Computer Engineering degree. I've seen it like that at some schools. Perhaps it's different at other places.

Engineering Technology is teh systematic technical side of engineering. You are only taught enough to know how to test applications. To give you an idea, a CET would know a brief amount of circuit theory up to KVL and KCL and maybe a bit more. AT some schools, they may be introduced electronics, but that is all. They do not do any theory stuff like Thevinin Equivalence (if they are taught it, it is very brief). Everything is hands on testing and you will don't do that much design work. In essence, it's engineering without the designing and application.

Which equals, less money?

Money isn't everything. I mean it is very important but I will take less money in exchange for being happy and being in a job I enjoy. Not everyone wants to do engineering... bascially engineering sucks and a select few enjoy it. That is great for them! They do a good job at it and help out the world. Others do other great things and are happy with what they do. I would love to get a job running a wastewater plant and prodding yer turds with a stick and making 50k a year. I enjoy it others would hate it.