Just got accepted to DeVry University

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreationWho the fvck are you to tell people that kind of sh!t when you're 18 years old. You don't even know what the real world is.

Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: OulOat

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
There would be two things that I'd be worried about: The DeVry name and getting a Computer Engineering Technology degree. Do they not offer a Computer Engineering degree?

I was under the impression it was the same thing

Hmm... I'm under the impression that a Computer Engineering Technology degree is a 'dumbed down' version of a Computer Engineering degree. I've seen it like that at some schools. Perhaps it's different at other places.

Engineering Technology is teh systematic technical side of engineering. You are only taught enough to know how to test applications. To give you an idea, a CET would know a brief amount of circuit theory up to KVL and KCL and maybe a bit more. AT some schools, they may be introduced electronics, but that is all. They do not do any theory stuff like Thevinin Equivalence (if they are taught it, it is very brief). Everything is hands on testing and you will don't do that much design work. In essence, it's engineering without the designing and application.

Which equals, less money?

In the general case, you could start out making teh same, but you will reach a ceiling much faster with an Engineering tech degree when it comes to pay. I say general because just because you have an ET degree, it does not mean you will not be able to climb yoru way up the ladder. I have heard a story of CET cooping at Sun, getting a job, and ending up doing a regular engineer's job and making more than his fellow engineers with the actual engineering degree. Its all depends on what you do with what you learn. If you get any degree and think the learning stops when you graduate, you will advance no where.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: OulOat

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser

Originally posted by: arcenite
Hey you can all make fun of the school if you want, but it's better then being made fun of when you're a 40 year old man working at mcdonalds. If you don't have something nice to say, just go away :|

Chill dude, I said congrats. I didn't know you had to apply. As long as your doing something to improve yourself in life, its all good.

Can DeVry actually improve anything? I'm not trying to be an ass, I just always thought DeVry was like one of those crappy technical schools that nobody in the professional world respects.

In the professional world nobody ever, and I mean EVER talks about where you got your degree. Except the noobs - you can always tell a noob because he tells you where he went to college.

Riight...Because a Harvard MBA is equal to a University of Phoenix MBA...:roll:

In the professional world it does matter. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

I think he means a regular BS or BA degree. If so, then yeah, after you work in the industry for a few years, your school's importance becomes a non factor.

Your first salary affects every following salary (unless you have a dramatic life event, like a career change). You think a Harvard Law grad starting out with 150k is going to be paid the same in 10 years as a 3rd tier law grad starting out at 70k? Not likely. Employers ask for your current salary so they know exactly how much you are worth. If you get a crappy paying job out of college, you are screwing yourself for the rest of your life.

you have no idea what you are talking about, do you? You have to be niave to think that your college alone will get you a six figure salary after school. Oh, and your example, there have many instances where a alumni of elite school made the same as the alumni of a less respectable school after years of work.

 

[Aimster]

Community College - 2 years
University - 2 years

Degree 4 years.

If you really want you can get your degree in 3 years if you take summer courses.

 

[rahvin]

As an aside, not all institutions are not created equal. I work as and have a degree in civil engineering. In my profession if you obtain a degree from a non ABET accredited institution (basically limited to large universities) you are unable to obtain professional registration in most states in the union and your career advancement is completely limited to that obtainable in the first 4 years (there are some exceptions to this).

Different careers have different requirements and how hard you are willing to work definately plays a role in what your career will hold for your future. Can you take a tech degree from a non accredited institution (if that even means anything in the degree you pursue) and turn it into a highly successful career? Oh absolutely, but you will have to work harder in the begining and every time you change jobs to prove your skills. In some fields with lots of networking that wont' be as much of a challenge in others it can be an absolute nightmare.

You can be successful at anything you choose to do with a degree or certification from any institution you choose if you are willing to work hard to open the doors that you need to. But if the field is large with little company to company contact (networking) than the less name you have in your degree will peg you down a notch and that peg down a notch in the interview in a bad economy can be the difference between getting a job and not. Like it or not, justified or not Devry and the other for profit universities have a bad stigma, what you have seen in this thread and that stigma will always be there. Not everyone has it and I would imagine those doing hiring would try to ignore it and focus on skils and experience but you never really know with a bias that is that prevalent in society.

 

[Goosemaster]

Life is largely what you make of it. Realize that there are indeed stigmas that come from a variety of directions, regardless of your decision.

Just as I will have to work harder to garner respect from the ignorant (when I need to) when I mention that I go to a Community College, so will you.

That said, in defense of the one shred of truth that many seem to be ercricling like lost vultures, don't be full of yourself. Realize that by many means, you are starting in a somewhat cripled fashion, without the many benefits and resources of a full-blown reasearch institution.

...THAT said, if you work your tail off, there is no reason why you shouldn't be a great Engineer. :thumbsup:

 

[Goosemaster]

I still urge you to take a look at local community colleges. I am lucky and go to pratically one of the best CC's in country, and maybe your fortunes could be good as well.

 

[Rhin0]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
I still urge you to take a look at local community colleges. I am lucky and go to pratically one of the best CC's in country, and maybe your fortunes could be good as well.

Plus it saves a lot of money. Devry is expensive, really expensive. I pay about 1,300 a quarter I think and that is for anywhere from 15 hours+

I haven't missed out the "University experience" I have enjoyed my time in CC and learned a lot. Got to stay home with my dog and all my big boy toys... mom cooked for me, stay in my own room, etc. It has been fun. This coming fall i'm going to the main campus but i'll be driving there (about an hour one way) probably 3 times a week, hopefully not 4 days a week though. I might sleep at my friends apartment once a week to save gas money.

 

[Chrono]

Hm... I went to DeVry University Pomona... I'm a Linux System Administrator for a webhosting company right now. Granted, I have one class left to complete before I graduate, but... having a degree or near degree completion status for some reason gives employers a better reason to consider you as a candidate as their employee. My advice is to not count on DeVry or any other college for placing you into a job, but to constantly learn throughout school and to search for a job long and hard until you find the right one. I'm happy in my life. I just bought a Scion tC and on my way to earning more money each year.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: OulOat

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser

Originally posted by: arcenite
Hey you can all make fun of the school if you want, but it's better then being made fun of when you're a 40 year old man working at mcdonalds. If you don't have something nice to say, just go away :|

Chill dude, I said congrats. I didn't know you had to apply. As long as your doing something to improve yourself in life, its all good.

Can DeVry actually improve anything? I'm not trying to be an ass, I just always thought DeVry was like one of those crappy technical schools that nobody in the professional world respects.

In the professional world nobody ever, and I mean EVER talks about where you got your degree. Except the noobs - you can always tell a noob because he tells you where he went to college.

Riight...Because a Harvard MBA is equal to a University of Phoenix MBA...:roll:

In the professional world it does matter. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

I think he means a regular BS or BA degree. If so, then yeah, after you work in the industry for a few years, your school's importance becomes a non factor.

Your first salary affects every following salary (unless you have a dramatic life event, like a career change). You think a Harvard Law grad starting out with 150k is going to be paid the same in 10 years as a 3rd tier law grad starting out at 70k? Not likely. Employers ask for your current salary so they know exactly how much you are worth. If you get a crappy paying job out of college, you are screwing yourself for the rest of your life.

you have no idea what you are talking about, do you? You have to be niave to think that your college alone will get you a six figure salary after school. Oh, and your example, there have many instances where a alumni of elite school made the same as the alumni of a less respectable school after years of work.

No one fvcking said that the college was the only thing that affected your salary moron. It does make an impact though. :disgust:

 

[dfi]

I went to a "good" school. Don't worry about it, it doesn't matter in the long haul. A good school has a nice ring to it, but once you get a job, it's about much more than a nice name.

dfi

 

[Chrono]

BTW, my friend who came directly out from DeVry University with a CIS degree, is now a DBA for a medical research facility. Right out of DeVry, earning 50k+ a year, and didn't know too much to begin with. WTF? But he's good at what he does and learns quick. I'm a CIS major as well, but I've strayed away from application/DB programming and love to deal with sys admin stuff... I guess it's more fun for me.

 

[hytek369]

sweet

 

[Kanalua]

Originally posted by: Chrono
BTW, my friend who came directly out from DeVry University with a CIS degree, is now a DBA for a medical research facility. Right out of DeVry, earning 50k+ a year, and didn't know too much to begin with. WTF? But he's good at what he does and learns quick. I'm a CIS major as well, but I've strayed away from application/DB programming and love to deal with sys admin stuff... I guess it's more fun for me.

Holy sh|t....jealous...

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: SSP
People put too much emphasis on how prestigious the school they go to. Just ignore the asshats.

anyone that use the term asshats is something even worse

 

[Chrono]

btw, i forgot to include my salary, i make rought 40k a year and i've been out of school for exactly a year FROM DeVry... of course i'm gonna say one last thing though, and that is to FULLY LEARN and understand the career path you're going into. If you do well (inside the classroom and outside), there is no doubt that you WILL DEFINITELY get a job.

 

[Imdmn04]

Have you considerd a public state school? If no, why?

 

[drum]

I feel so bad for the OP, he was so excited and i'm sure he feels about 1 step away from complete crap. I really can't add anything that hasn't already been mentioned... but I do wish you the best of luck.

I graduated after edro13 with a bachelors of CET

 

[Mani]

Hey dude, I'm going to try to give you some no-bs advice. Yes, the people telling you that Devry is sh*t are not experts. But those trying to blow smoke up your ass in telling you where you got your degree doesn't matter are no better.

The fact with Devry is, you will be constantly having to fight the negative image that school has in many peoples' minds. To a lot of people, it is a community college-level school and to others it is a flat-out joke. That is not to say it deserves either of those perceptions, but that's just how it is. It will work against you somewhat in trying to get people to take you seriously in the work world and it will affect your ability to get a serious audience for an interview. And for every engineer that doesn't care where your education comes from, there is another who thinks Devry graduates calling themselves engineers are an insult to their profession.

What you decide to do is your decision - just weigh all your options before jumping at this. If you are looking at alternatives, state schools are a good option. If admissions are a problem even directional schools (e.g. eastern michigan, southwest texas, etc.) are a preferential option, as are satellite campuses (e.g. Umich-Dearborn, Utexas-Dallas). These schools may not be prestigious, but at least they do not carry the stigma Devry does. Good luck.

 

[Apathetic]

Congratulations. I have no idea how good or bad their CE Tech degree is, but I wish you luck.

Dave

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: OulOat

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser

Originally posted by: arcenite
Hey you can all make fun of the school if you want, but it's better then being made fun of when you're a 40 year old man working at mcdonalds. If you don't have something nice to say, just go away :|

Chill dude, I said congrats. I didn't know you had to apply. As long as your doing something to improve yourself in life, its all good.

Can DeVry actually improve anything? I'm not trying to be an ass, I just always thought DeVry was like one of those crappy technical schools that nobody in the professional world respects.

In the professional world nobody ever, and I mean EVER talks about where you got your degree. Except the noobs - you can always tell a noob because he tells you where he went to college.

Riight...Because a Harvard MBA is equal to a University of Phoenix MBA...:roll:

In the professional world it does matter. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

I think he means a regular BS or BA degree. If so, then yeah, after you work in the industry for a few years, your school's importance becomes a non factor.

Your first salary affects every following salary (unless you have a dramatic life event, like a career change). You think a Harvard Law grad starting out with 150k is going to be paid the same in 10 years as a 3rd tier law grad starting out at 70k? Not likely. Employers ask for your current salary so they know exactly how much you are worth. If you get a crappy paying job out of college, you are screwing yourself for the rest of your life.

you have no idea what you are talking about, do you? You have to be niave to think that your college alone will get you a six figure salary after school. Oh, and your example, there have many instances where a alumni of elite school made the same as the alumni of a less respectable school after years of work.

No one fvcking said that the college was the only thing that affected your salary moron. It does make an impact though. :disgust:

Sorry man, but you are not srewing your self if you get a crappy job after your graduate. You screw yoru self if you never higher your standards. In ten years, if you follow the same lead as and elite graduate who made six figures, you should be very close to his salary and success level. The stories about this are limitless.

 

[StageLeft]

Nice to see this thread got sidetracked and ran off the mountain. Congratulations, people.

 

[MaxDSP]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Nice to see this thread got sidetracked and ran off the mountain. Congratulations, people.

hows that?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Nice to see this thread got sidetracked and ran off the mountain. Congratulations, people.

hows that?

It went from a guy saying he got in to people debating the merits of a degree!

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Nice to see this thread got sidetracked and ran off the mountain. Congratulations, people.

hows that?

It went from a guy saying he got in to people debating the merits of a degree!

I'd say the current conversation benefits this guy a lot more in terms of reevaluating his decision than a bunch of e-backslapping and insincere well-wishing.