Just got accepted to DeVry University

[Anonemous]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Gibson486
Devry is not really a place you go to to be the best engineer possible.

Much of what you describe is an attribute of the person, not the school they go to. I'd say the person who is more intelligent and works harder will make a better engineer no matter what school they go to. In fact, they'll probably be better at anything that requires critical thought since they have more to work with as far as brains go.

I remember when I was younger, I had a friend that I went to grade school with. His parents sent him to a different high school than me, one that was more "prestigious". He took school so seriously while I was just slacked. He started telling me how he takes his education so seriously, and that his school will better prepare him for the SAT's than mine possibly could. He was probably right about the school, but I was always in special honors classes and would ace my tests. Let's just say that I almost scored as high on my verbal part (760), as he scored on the whole test (around 1000). I was just smarter than him, and there wasn't much he could do about it. I also scored a perfect 100 on the comprehension portion of my HSPT.

Focus on the individual's brains. School is just an accessory.

yes that would be true in an ideal world. But corporations/people hiring are not that idealistic. It would be nice that they focus on your intelligence and attributes but they also look at the school (as well as connections) where you come from as well. I agree that any effort to get an education is better than nothing but he'll just got to try harder to make up for the stigma that's attached in people's minds about that school.

BTW, arcenite congrats! go celebrate :beer: but remember you have a long road ahead.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: aphex
Wow, half you guys are complete and utter assholes.

Congrats OP and make the most of your opportunity.....

:thumbsup:

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Nice to see this thread got sidetracked and ran off the mountain. Congratulations, people.

hows that?

It went from a guy saying he got in to people debating the merits of a degree!

I'd say the current conversation benefits this guy a lot more in terms of reevaluating his decision than a bunch of e-backslapping and insincere well-wishing.

There's a difference between offering friendly advise and badmouthing another's hopes/accomplishments. Most "advice" from AT comes in the latter form. It's not helpful or asked for.

 

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: aphex
Wow, half you guys are complete and utter assholes.

Congrats OP and make the most of your opportunity.....

:thumbsup:

My brother started there last year, make the best of it and work hard.

 

[VIAN]

I go to the North Brunswick campus. It's cool except for the price.

 

[aidanjm]

Congratulations, arcenite.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
You'll make a lovely subordinate one day. Maybe I'll even let you work the helpdesk!

Don't you live in your parents's basement?

And his home network has a higher level of security than the CIA, but he'll never have a subordinate because of his personality. He's a stereotypical IT worker.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: edro13
I am a CET grad from Columbus. If you have any questions, lemme know.

Fair warning though... everyone on ATOT thinks DeVry is equal to a high school vocational school.

Nah, I consider DeVry to be halfway between HS and public uni. In there with the CC's. I do regard DV students higher than CC students, because most CC kids have NO direction, and are just there because they're told they have to be there to succeed.

and where do you study? work?

 

[flot]

I hope the OP hasn't jumped off a bridge or anything.

I really do think there are some very good comments in here. But there's one thing that I don't think anybody touched on - Arcenite, why did you choose devry over a state school or even community college? Is it location, cost, acceptance, etc?

 

[aidanjm]

The behavior of people in this thread just leaves me disgusted and sickened at humanity. why are people so fvcking obnoxious?

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
The behavior of people in this thread just leaves me disgusted and sickened at humanity. why are people so fvcking obnoxious?

Agreed.

Nobody knows this guy's capabilities. And nobody seems to care. They just want to insult him for his choice of school.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: aidanjm
The behavior of people in this thread just leaves me disgusted and sickened at humanity. why are people so fvcking obnoxious?

Agreed.

Nobody knows this guy's capabilities. And nobody seems to care. They just want to insult him for his choice of school.

True!

At 20 arcenite is just starting his lifes journey. Who's to say that this will be the only education he receives? Hell most people don't usually end up in careers that coincide with their degree.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: aidanjm
The behavior of people in this thread just leaves me disgusted and sickened at humanity. why are people so fvcking obnoxious?

Agreed.

Nobody knows this guy's capabilities. And nobody seems to care. They just want to insult him for his choice of school.

True!

At 20 arcenite is just starting his lifes Journey. Who's to say that this will be the only education he receives? Hell most people don't usually end up in careers that coincide with their degree.

Sorry, I have been gone cause I thought this thread was dead Thank you Red, I think that's the nicest thing you've said to anybody, let alone me I chose devry because it was the first real school I went after and got in. I hadn't really done too much research on the school, but after this I think I may apply at a few more schools. Though I must say in the beginning I was upset at all the negative replies, I got over it. There is a chance devry is still going to be my school of choice, but I will definately do my research. Thank you for all the support guys! It's sad I need support against my fellow aters

 

[tcsenter]

As an accredited school, DeVry participates in all the same financial aid programs that any public institution does. The thing about DeVry (and ITT as well) is that not all of its campuses are equal: About Accreditation...

DeVry University is accredited by The Higher Learning Commission and is a member of the North Central Association (NCA), 30 North LaSalle Street, Chicago, Illinois, 60602, www.ncahigherlearningcommission.org, 800/621-7440. The University's Keller Graduate School of Management is also included in this accreditation. NCA is listed by the U.S. Department of Education as a recognized accrediting association.

The baccalaureate Computer Engineering Technology (CET) programs at the Columbus, Fremont, Irving, Kansas City and Phoenix campuses, and the baccalaureate Electronics Engineering Technology (EET) programs at the Addison, Alpharetta, Chicago, Columbus, Decatur, Fremont, Irving, Kansas City, Long Beach, Long Island City, North Brunswick, Phoenix, Pomona, Tinley Park and West Hills campuses, as well as the associate-level EET program in North Brunswick, are accredited by the Technology Accreditation Commission of the Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology (TAC of ABET), 111 Market Place, Baltimore, Maryland, 21202, 410/347-7700.

TAC of ABET requires separate review of each engineering technology program at each location. The initial evaluation for newer programs, as well as programs at newer locations, may not be requested until the first class of students has graduated. Newer programs include Biomedical Engineering Technology (BMET) and Computer Engineering Technology* (CET). Newer locations include Arlington, Colorado Springs, Federal Way, Ft. Washington, Houston, Miramar, Orlando and Westminster. The CET and EET programs at DeVry Calgary, offered through DeVry Phoenix, are not eligible for this accreditation.

The most recent information on the status of TAC of ABET accreditation is available at each location.

Make sure your campus is accredited by NCA and ABET.

You're flat out wrong. There are a few Intel employees that post on these forums regularly, Wingznut is one.

I didn't say "employee". An Intel "employee" is not the same as a Technologist or Fellow. A typical Intel or IBM Technologist has completed a Masters degree, increasingly a doctorate.

Now that we have heard the opinions of those who attend top-tier schools (and thus need to justify it to themselves), let's take a look at what REAL companies and recruiters say about DeVry graduates:

"This May, Amarjit Bir and 25 of his friends were flown, first-class, from Ontario airport and LAX to Dallas, Texas, by Nortel Networks. A fleet of limousines greeted the group at the airport and whisked them off to a decadent, Texas-style steak dinner, all expenses paid. They were put up in five-star hotels, provided extra spending money, and then offered jobs by the telecom giant, at salaries starting in the high $40,000s. Then the whole lot was shipped back to East Los Angeles County...so they could graduate from college.

Bir and his startled classmates will have graduated from Pomona?s DeVry Institute of Technology June 23, wait a few weeks, and then begin overseeing installations of fiberoptic networks. Nortel, one of the fastest-growing companies in the country, called DeVry in mid-spring asking the technical university to help fill 1,000 new staff positions by June 30.

Nortel isn?t the only company circling DeVry?s graduating flock. Ashish Sudra, a 21-year-old senior, says he can?t figure out which job to take: A customer service/tech support job with Cisco Systems for $53,000 a year plus stock options and a one-month relocation package; or $58,000 and stock options and a three-month package from Marc Andreesen?s new company Loudcloud.

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The best evidence of the quality of DeVry's curriculum is the on-the-job success of its graduates. Bill Buglewicz, a senior manufacturing manager at KLA Instruments (KLA-Tencor), recruits at six of the campuses every year. "DeVry students have a great work ethic, higher motivation, and initiative," Buglewicz says. "The courseload, in particular the exhaustive lab work, makes them wonderful thinkers and troubleshooters."

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At Hughes Communications, the nation's largest satellite company, 22 of the 30 engineers responsible for orbit maintenance are DeVry graduates. KLA Instruments (KLA-Tencor), which designs quality-control systems for the manufacture of microchips, boasts that a fifth of its 1,000 employees graduated from DeVry. All this at an annual cost per student of $2,500 less than similar state-run programs.

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"They are basically a proprietary college focused on high-end information technology and they have a real high-end reputation," Zaiden said. "I would send my own kid to DeVry, except he has already graduated.

"Their product quality is excellent and it attracts quality candidates." Zaiden said Broward and Miami-Dade counties are "poised to boom" in international business activity.

"And I'm sure [DeVry] will be big players in the future education. I've been in this industry for 36 years and they've always had a good reputation," he said.

Well known industrial, manufacturing, and technology companies that actively recruit DeVry graduates sit on DeVry's numerous curriculum advisory boards and review the quality of DeVry's curriculum annually.

The more digging one does, the more one realizes that DeVry has a good reputation pretty much everywhere, except among those who attend top-tier schools and may one day find themselves replaced by a DeVry grad who will work for much less. lol!

 

[Staples]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I'm thinking maybe you people are mistaking DeVry with ITT Tech or some other place.

I have always thought DeVry as a trade school so to speak just like ITT Tech. Maybe I am wrong.

 

[Vampirrella]

I did DeVry a year and a half ago and I will NEVER recommend this "online university" to anyone ever again. I signed up for ONE term but didnt finish the term cuz I was going through a nasty divorce at the time, and couldn't keep my mind on the schoolwork, so I withdrew. So for 3 classes, that was $768 for the term, my own responsibility, my fault... I'll live with that.

The next term comes rolling around and I told my enrollment guy that I would NOT be enrolling in any further courses untill I was ready to do so, get my post-divorce crap out of the way, ect. After the enrollment deadline passed, I decided to check and make sure I was not enrolled, I just had a gut feeling something wasnt right... sure enough, I logged in saw that I was signed up for 4 courses, classes I didnt even choose to take, I wasn't notified by the enrollment guy at all that I was even signed up, had bought no books for these classes as I didn't know I was "attending". I call them up and tell them to cancel those classes that I didnt sign up for. They then replied: "sorry, but we show you have a 1 minute participation for the second term and therefor you will be liable for $874 for the 4 classes you signed up for." This "1 minute participation" was me logging into my account and finding out that I was enrolled after I TOLD them NOT too!

Make a long story short, the enrollment guy went ahead and got me enrolled even tho I told him I would not be attending any classes, now I have a pending lawsuit vs Devry. My lawyer looked up in the PACER reports that there are several ppl going thru the same thing; Getting charged for something they didnt sign up for.

Take it from me: Devry is nothing more then a STUDENT LOAN MILL, once they suck you in, get you signed up and registered, you might be in for bumpy ride. If you tell them you might not take any further classes, do me a favor, and call them EVERY day to make sure your enrollment guy/lady doesnt pull wool over your eyes and get you nailed along with a big bill to prove it!

Devry, may you burn in hell

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: Vampirrella
I did DeVry a year and a half ago and I will NEVER recommend this "online university" to anyone ever again. I signed up for ONE term but didnt finish the term cuz I was going through a nasty divorce at the time, and couldn't keep my mind on the schoolwork, so I withdrew. So for 3 classes, that was $768 for the term, my own responsibility, my fault... I'll live with that.

The next term comes rolling around and I told my enrollment guy that I would NOT be enrolling in any further courses untill I was ready to do so, get my post-divorce crap out of the way, ect. After the enrollment deadline passed, I decided to check and make sure I was not enrolled, I just had a gut feeling something wasnt right... sure enough, I logged in saw that I was signed up for 4 courses, classes I didnt even choose to take, I wasn't notified by the enrollment guy at all that I was even signed up, had bought no books for these classes as I didn't know I was "attending". I call them up and tell them to cancel those classes that I didnt sign up for. They then replied: "sorry, but we show you have a 1 minute participation for the second term and therefor you will be liable for $874 for the 4 classes you signed up for." This "1 minute participation" was me logging into my account and finding out that I was enrolled after I TOLD them NOT too!

Make a long story short, the enrollment guy went ahead and got me enrolled even tho I told him I would not be attending any classes, now I have a pending lawsuit vs Devry. My lawyer looked up in the PACER reports that there are several ppl going thru the same thing; Getting charged for something they didnt sign up for.

Take it from me: Devry is nothing more then a STUDENT LOAN MILL, once they suck you in, get you signed up and registered, you might be in for bumpy ride. If you tell them you might not take any further classes, do me a favor, and call them EVERY day to make sure your enrollment guy/lady doesnt pull wool over your eyes and get you nailed along with a big bill to prove it!

Devry, may you burn in hell

I'm not too worried about that since I do not plan on taking online courses.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: tcsenter
As an accredited school, DeVry participates in all the same financial aid programs that any public institution does. The thing about DeVry (and ITT as well) is that not all of its campuses are equal: About Accreditation...

DeVry University is accredited by The Higher Learning Commission and is a member of the North Central Association (NCA), 30 North LaSalle Street, Chicago, Illinois, 60602, www.ncahigherlearningcommission.org, 800/621-7440. The University's Keller Graduate School of Management is also included in this accreditation. NCA is listed by the U.S. Department of Education as a recognized accrediting association.

The baccalaureate Computer Engineering Technology (CET) programs at the Columbus, Fremont, Irving, Kansas City and Phoenix campuses, and the baccalaureate Electronics Engineering Technology (EET) programs at the Addison, Alpharetta, Chicago, Columbus, Decatur, Fremont, Irving, Kansas City, Long Beach, Long Island City, North Brunswick, Phoenix, Pomona, Tinley Park and West Hills campuses, as well as the associate-level EET program in North Brunswick, are accredited by the Technology Accreditation Commission of the Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology (TAC of ABET), 111 Market Place, Baltimore, Maryland, 21202, 410/347-7700.

TAC of ABET requires separate review of each engineering technology program at each location. The initial evaluation for newer programs, as well as programs at newer locations, may not be requested until the first class of students has graduated. Newer programs include Biomedical Engineering Technology (BMET) and Computer Engineering Technology* (CET). Newer locations include Arlington, Colorado Springs, Federal Way, Ft. Washington, Houston, Miramar, Orlando and Westminster. The CET and EET programs at DeVry Calgary, offered through DeVry Phoenix, are not eligible for this accreditation.

The most recent information on the status of TAC of ABET accreditation is available at each location.

Make sure your campus is accredited by NCA and ABET.

You're flat out wrong. There are a few Intel employees that post on these forums regularly, Wingznut is one.

I didn't say "employee". An Intel "employee" is not the same as a Technologist or Fellow. A typical Intel or IBM Technologist has completed a Masters degree, increasingly a doctorate.

Now that we have heard the opinions of those who attend top-tier schools (and thus need to justify it to themselves), let's take a look at what REAL companies and recruiters say about DeVry graduates:

"This May, Amarjit Bir and 25 of his friends were flown, first-class, from Ontario airport and LAX to Dallas, Texas, by Nortel Networks. A fleet of limousines greeted the group at the airport and whisked them off to a decadent, Texas-style steak dinner, all expenses paid. They were put up in five-star hotels, provided extra spending money, and then offered jobs by the telecom giant, at salaries starting in the high $40,000s. Then the whole lot was shipped back to East Los Angeles County...so they could graduate from college.

Bir and his startled classmates will have graduated from Pomona?s DeVry Institute of Technology June 23, wait a few weeks, and then begin overseeing installations of fiberoptic networks. Nortel, one of the fastest-growing companies in the country, called DeVry in mid-spring asking the technical university to help fill 1,000 new staff positions by June 30.

Nortel isn?t the only company circling DeVry?s graduating flock. Ashish Sudra, a 21-year-old senior, says he can?t figure out which job to take: A customer service/tech support job with Cisco Systems for $53,000 a year plus stock options and a one-month relocation package; or $58,000 and stock options and a three-month package from Marc Andreesen?s new company Loudcloud.

----------------------------------

The best evidence of the quality of DeVry's curriculum is the on-the-job success of its graduates. Bill Buglewicz, a senior manufacturing manager at KLA Instruments (KLA-Tencor), recruits at six of the campuses every year. "DeVry students have a great work ethic, higher motivation, and initiative," Buglewicz says. "The courseload, in particular the exhaustive lab work, makes them wonderful thinkers and troubleshooters."

-----------------------------------

At Hughes Communications, the nation's largest satellite company, 22 of the 30 engineers responsible for orbit maintenance are DeVry graduates. KLA Instruments (KLA-Tencor), which designs quality-control systems for the manufacture of microchips, boasts that a fifth of its 1,000 employees graduated from DeVry. All this at an annual cost per student of $2,500 less than similar state-run programs.

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"They are basically a proprietary college focused on high-end information technology and they have a real high-end reputation," Zaiden said. "I would send my own kid to DeVry, except he has already graduated.

"Their product quality is excellent and it attracts quality candidates." Zaiden said Broward and Miami-Dade counties are "poised to boom" in international business activity.

"And I'm sure [DeVry] will be big players in the future education. I've been in this industry for 36 years and they've always had a good reputation," he said.

Well known industrial, manufacturing, and technology companies that actively recruit DeVry graduates sit on DeVry's numerous curriculum advisory boards and review the quality of DeVry's curriculum annually.

The more digging one does, the more one realizes that DeVry has a good reputation pretty much everywhere, except among those who attend top-tier schools and may one day find themselves replaced by a DeVry grad who will work for much less. lol!

wrong again. there are several guys on this board that work for intel and do circuit design on the processors.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Nice to see this thread got sidetracked and ran off the mountain. Congratulations, people.

hows that?

It went from a guy saying he got in to people debating the merits of a degree!

I'd say the current conversation benefits this guy a lot more in terms of reevaluating his decision than a bunch of e-backslapping and insincere well-wishing.

There's a difference between offering friendly advise and badmouthing another's hopes/accomplishments. Most "advice" from AT comes in the latter form. It's not helpful or asked for.

Agreed on that but your original post was directed at the fact that the discussion shifted to talking about the merits of a degree. A discussion about the merits of a degree is still a lot more useful than just telling the guy he made a great decision when he should be reflecting on a life decision.

 

[Ranger X]

Originally posted by: Staples

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I'm thinking maybe you people are mistaking DeVry with ITT Tech or some other place.

I have always thought DeVry as a trade school so to speak just like ITT Tech. Maybe I am wrong.

DeVry and ITT Tech are both similar to a trade school because the school's main focus is job placement after graduation. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm not even sure if professors are required to do any research. Personally, I don't think attending DeVry is worth the money. DeVry and ITT Tech will accept just about anyone and the cost of tuition is not a worthwhile investment. OP, you are better off going to a state school or going to a community college and transferring.

No offense but I wouldn't want to attend a college that is advertised on television with tuition rates up there with in-state private institutions. All I'm saying is re-think your decision and don't take our advice to be an attack on your decision to go. To tell you the truth, I have worked extensively with the HR at my company and they will not hire anyone from DeVry or ITT Tech. They used to recruit from DeVry but that was when there weren't enough people to fill the entry-level positions at the company.

 

[tcsenter]

wrong again. there are several guys on this board that work for intel and do circuit design on the processors.

lol! Go away. Its obvious you have no clue what I'm talking about, so stop trying.

DeVry and ITT Tech are both similar to a trade school because the school's main focus is job placement after graduation.

No, DeVry and ITT are both similar to a trade school because the main focus is on trade (or vocational) skills. Duh. If their main focus were job placement, they would be "job placement" schools.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm not even sure if professors are required to do any research.

The majority of professors don't do research at any college or university. I believe all of DeVry's instructors have Masters or better now, and most actually have a real job in their industry or field of expertise (unlike most professors at research or public universities, who've never worked a real job since they were in college...if at all). Some of DeVry's professors are doing research in their real world jobs.

It wouldn't make sense for a school with DeVry's practical focus to do research. Besides, foreign schools like the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) are routinely churning out engineers who are so brilliant they say America's "prestigious" engineering schools like MIT, Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, Purdue, Michigan, and Stanford are a joke.

60 Minutes had a spot on IIT a while back, most IIT grads come to the US for graduate school. A few of the grads interviewed said their first year at IIT was harder than the entire graduate study program at Carnegie Mellon and MIT. They kept thinking the hard courses were yet to come...but they never came. lol!

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: tcsenter
Now that we have heard the opinions of those who attend top-tier schools (and thus need to justify it to themselves), let's take a look at what REAL companies and recruiters say about DeVry graduates...

Where did you get these "real world" quotes? Not doubting it but seems very much like it came straight from the DeVry brochure or recruitment office.

 

[Mo0o]

I was under the impression that DeVry will take anyone who is smart enough to fill out a checkbook?

 

[Wadded Beef]

Originally posted by: FleshLight
I got accepted into Pasadena City College as a MAE! I'm so excited!

hey i go to PCC too we r teh leet lol

 

[mhillary]

Congratulations :beer::gift: