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Lifer
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Interesting...

If that's the case, I'm surprised no one can come up with a method to do it upright since upside down is not fun when the blood starts rushing to your head. You don't have to be hanging from your arms(though that would be free) but you could easily just hang from your underarms with a harness or something... as long as your lower torso isn't being held up, it should still provide relief so long as it's hanging. :\

it's harder. there's no comfortable way to do it without harnesses, like a vest you hang in while your legs dangle. there's a machine that actually kinds does that, except you're on a treadmill... it's called a newton. it helps rehabilitate lower extremity injuries without much weight bearing.
 

purbeast0

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I don't get how it works. I understand gravity puts a lot of pressure on the spine so this reverses it. But what I don't get is that if you're standing, your upper body puts pressure on your spine, so wouldn't your lower body do the same thing when upside down. Ok so now you're thinking there is no pressure because you're hanging from your legs so that your upper body is pulling your spines apart thereby relieving backpain. So now I'm thinking, what's the difference between that and just hanging from your arms instead of your legs?

your upper body weighs MUCH more than your lower body. so you have much more of a pull when upside down.

also as i've stated a few times, i get the most relief from my lower back when i'm not fully upside down. it's when i'm angled downwards.

that is much harder to reproduce than simply hanging by your arms.
 

purbeast0

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I tried one of these at one of those "Relax the Back" stores a year or so ago. At first I was all tense being upside down but then the guy that worked there said "take a deep breath in and out and try to relax". I did so and holy crap I dropped a good inch closer to the ground just from letting my back muscles relax. I had a nice non-painful popping down my lower back and was just instant relief of pressure from my lower back. I didn't turn 180 over but more like 150.

After I spun back around and stood up and walked for awhile longer after leaving the store I couldn't get over how good my back felt.

I've had a bulge in one of my disc ever since I was rear ended by a Ford F350 in 2005.

Man I want one of these so bad now.

the guy who sold me mine actually got his 10 years ago when he was rear ended. he said it had been years since he has used it because it totally healed his back, and he was moving to a smaller place and figured he'd get some $$ for it.
 

eits

Lifer
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1. i'm a healthy male adult so yea i'm good.

2. my core is probably stronger than 95% of the population as i've been working out 4x a week for the past 5+ years.

3. i've seen doctors and had MRI's and chiropractor was never recommended after seeing 3 doctors so i'm not going to bother that route. i was recommended exercises to do to help w/the pressure, and those did work. however my back is nowhere NEAR as bad as it was 5 or so years ago when I messed it up. it's gotten much better.

i mainly got this because i've noticed that certain days at the gym i will tweak it and it aches for a few days, and i was always curious about how it felt. there is a way i can lay on the hamstring curl machine at my gym that will give me relief because it pulls my legs apart from my lower back, so that got me curiuos as to an inversion table. so far i'm glad.

chiropractors are only sometimes recommended by medical doctors who are more knowledgeable. some of your older ones who are stuck in the "chiropractors are quacks" mindset don't make appropriate referrals.

unfortunately, however, there are many, many shitty chiropractors out there. maybe there aren't any good ones out near where you live, which is why you never got the referral.
 

purbeast0

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chiropractors are only sometimes recommended by medical doctors who are more knowledgeable. some of your older ones who are stuck in the "chiropractors are quacks" mindset don't make appropriate referrals.

unfortunately, however, there are many, many shitty chiropractors out there. maybe there aren't any good ones out near where you live, which is why you never got the referral.

or maybe all 3 doctors knew that the problem i have can't be solved by chiropractors...

hell at my old job a chiropractor came in to discuss posture with the entire company and i told him the issue and he was just telling me things that would help it. same with my uncle who is a chiropractor.
 

darkxshade

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it's harder. there's no comfortable way to do it without harnesses, like a vest you hang in while your legs dangle. there's a machine that actually kinds does that, except you're on a treadmill... it's called a newton. it helps rehabilitate lower extremity injuries without much weight bearing.

That's what I'm talking about, some kind of vest harness that causes you to dangle. Or you could tie a rope under your arms... People hang themselves all the time.

your upper body weighs MUCH more than your lower body. so you have much more of a pull when upside down.

also as i've stated a few times, i get the most relief from my lower back when i'm not fully upside down. it's when i'm angled downwards.

that is much harder to reproduce than simply hanging by your arms.

You could always harness yourself from an angle as well on a table... and you could also add ankle weights or a weight belt to create more pull.
 

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there is a way i can lay on the hamstring curl machine at my gym that will give me relief because it pulls my legs apart from my lower back, so that got me curiuos as to an inversion table. so far i'm glad.

that's because when you're doing hamstring curls, you're eccentrically rotating your pelvis, which takes load off the lumbar spine.

crunches and hamstring curls are the best thing to do with patients who have disc problems, a hyperlordotic lumbar spine, or a pelvis that tilts too far forward.
 

darkxshade

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Now that I think about it, I may be indirectly doing this already. 3x/week after resistance training, I'd lie and roll my back on a swiss ball until my head touches the ground with my feet planted firmly. My back feels great when I do this, plus it adds flexibility to my core. At first I couldn't even touch my head to the ground, now I can do it with several sizes of swiss balls.
 

bignateyk

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there isn't much difference at all. it's actually a safer way to do it and add a weight belt... it's just that most people don't have the arm strength to do that and it takes less effort to hang by your feet, even though it's more dangerous.


I've tried hanging by my arms and then completely relaxing my spine to do this, but I always get horrific lower back spasms after I try to bend over for the first time after doing this. Any thoughts on why this happens? Am I doing something wrong? I'd love to be able to do the decompression because it feels amazing while I am doing it.

You mentioned there are safer ways of doing it?
 

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Lifer
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That's what I'm talking about, some kind of vest harness that causes you to dangle. Or you could tie a rope under your arms... People hang themselves all the time.

more difficult still to do it that way because your arms aren't actually attached to your body through stable joints. plus, you'd have to think about the general public... can fat people easily do it? thin people? old people? etc.

also, a weight belt would be necessary as well.
 

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I've tried hanging by my arms and then completely relaxing my spine to do this, but I always get horrific lower back spasms after I try to bend over for the first time after doing this. Any thoughts on why this happens? Am I doing something wrong? I'd love to be able to do the decompression because it feels amazing while I am doing it.

You mentioned there are safer ways of doing it?

you have muscles that attach from your low back to your arms... and when you stretch a muscle, it's natural tendency is to contract harder to make sure you don't tear it. so, when you're hanging like that, you've got muscles that are working against you in your attempt to get a nice decompression.
 

purbeast0

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That's what I'm talking about, some kind of vest harness that causes you to dangle. Or you could tie a rope under your arms... People hang themselves all the time.



You could always harness yourself from an angle as well on a table... and you could also add ankle weights or a weight belt to create more pull.

like i said, your legs are hardly any weight compared to your upper body. so even if you are "hanging" at an angle you won't get anything. i do leg lifts at the gym on a declined bench every week and you don't feel any pull at all when hanging at. not to mention, your feet would hit the ground very quickly unless you have a table that is like 3 feet off the ground.
 

bignateyk

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you have muscles that attach from your low back to your arms... and when you stretch a muscle, it's natural tendency is to contract harder to make sure you don't tear it. so, when you're hanging like that, you've got muscles that are working against you in your attempt to get a nice decompression.

so... these spasms are to be expected and i'm not risking permanent injury as a result of them?
 

Squisher

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i had a patient who had a couple failed low back surgeries... she was wheelchair bound and i got her walking again. decompression, dietary changes, and muscle strength is huge. if she can start exercising in the pool a lot more and build some muscle and then get in to see a physical therapist or a chiropractor with a decompression table or a distraction table, that'd be best. i'm assuming your wife is a senior and i wouldn't recommend an inversion table for a senior. in fact, i wouldn't recommend it for someone who sits around a lot of the day, either... it'd increase the risk of a clot migrating or a stroke.

She's 47 and cannot do physical therapy right now. Right now she's very limited in the time she's out of bed and the activity she wants to do. Standing is better than sitting. Alternating standing and sitting is better than just standing. Even that only lasts for 1-2 hours before she needs to be bedridden and that's on good days. She's been losing weight, but I don't know how with how sedentary she's become. She took the grandkids to a swimming class and got in the water after the class and said she felt a little better for a few minutes.
 

BoomerD

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I don't like the inversion tables. The blood rushes to my head and things go...dark.

A couple of local chiropractors have "invested" in the DRX9000 (or something like that) for disk decompression. I wouldn't mind trying it, but without insurance, the cost is prohibitive. (last time I checked, $175 per session)
 

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I have thought about using something like this, my problem is not in my lower back though, it is at the base of my neck, between my shoulder blades. Not sure how to decompress the area. I feel like I should hang by my head to get relief, if that makes sense. Not going to try that though...
Any suggestions? I workout, have gone to the chiropractor for years, back when I had insurance. None of them gave me relief.
 

eits

Lifer
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I don't like the inversion tables. The blood rushes to my head and things go...dark.

A couple of local chiropractors have "invested" in the DRX9000 (or something like that) for disk decompression. I wouldn't mind trying it, but without insurance, the cost is prohibitive. (last time I checked, $175 per session)

the drx9000 is being bought and sold between chiropractors more than stocks on wall street these days. i never looked into why... my assumption is because insurance won't cover it for some reason. i dunno. maybe it's just bad equipment?

/shrug
 

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Lifer
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I have thought about using something like this, my problem is not in my lower back though, it is at the base of my neck, between my shoulder blades. Not sure how to decompress the area. I feel like I should hang by my head to get relief, if that makes sense. Not going to try that though...
Any suggestions? I workout, have gone to the chiropractor for years, back when I had insurance. None of them gave me relief.

they were probably doing it wrong...
 

thedarkwolf

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I got one about 6 months ago. My back had been screwed up for a month when I saw the table on craigslist for $100 right up the street from me and I figured what the hell and bought it. My back immediately felt better after using it and after a week of using it 3 times a day I was back to normal.
 

jbt52

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they were probably doing it wrong...

Possibly, I am no professional so I can't say for sure. It was a well known chiropractor in the area that also did chiropractic massage and a few other devices that I have no idea what they are called. Several family members got relief. I would get some relief initially, but it would never last to the next day.
 

Drako

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Lol, internet.

That says cervical, and realizing it didn't look like it had anything to do with the cervix, I googled and got the Youtube video result: "How to Photograph Your Cervix".


NOT CLICKING.

You do know that Cervix is Latin for Neck, right? I guess not. :\
 

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Lifer
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Possibly, I am no professional so I can't say for sure. It was a well known chiropractor in the area that also did chiropractic massage and a few other devices that I have no idea what they are called. Several family members got relief. I would get some relief initially, but it would never last to the next day.

then you were both probably doing something wrong.
 

Drako

Lifer
Jun 9, 2007
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I don't like the inversion tables. The blood rushes to my head and things go...dark.

A couple of local chiropractors have "invested" in the DRX9000 (or something like that) for disk decompression. I wouldn't mind trying it, but without insurance, the cost is prohibitive. (last time I checked, $175 per session)

You should try one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...R&tag=at055-20

DRX9000 - I wonder if the DRX8000 is any good :hmm:
 
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