Just got back from the police station

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: JDMnAR1

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: JDMnAR1
Carry permit or ownership permit?

As far as your prints being added to databases - maybe. Some of the information captured in the Arkansas permiting process cannot legally be retained once it is used to positively identify you and make a determination as to your fitness to carry. It all depends on how your state legislature enacted the permitting process.

You really buy that? Once you give your fingerprints for anything these days, you can be sure that you are in some database somewhere.

I didn't say I believed it, just said it wasn't legal.


Edit: To get back to the OPs question, that process is more or less the same as here in Arkansas for a carry permit (no license requirements simply for gun ownership). While we aren't required to have an interview or anything like that, you have to go through training, submit paperwork and fingerprints that first goes to either the local PD or county Sheriff, then to State Police/FBI for background check. It seems like the timeframe was roughly 10-12 weeks when I initially applied for my permit.

I believe, and I could be wrong (especially on specific state laws), that the data retention policy would only apply to tagging your file with information about your firearm status. For instance, they can keep your fingerprints on file, just not with a note that says 'bought a gun' or 'got a concealed permit'.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: edro
Is this pistol permit just to own a pistol?

In Ohio, you need to be 21 to own a pistol, and the retail gun store calls in your application for an instant check. If you are red flagged, you must wait 5 days.

To get a concealed carry permit, you must take an 8 hour training course and ~2 hours of shooting on the range. Then you apply for the license, which costs $50 or so.

to buy a pistol in CT you have to have the CC permit

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I wanted to get my permit for a while now and I'm nervous about the BO administration making things more difficult than they already are so I finally got my act together.

Met with a court liason officer and They ran through all paper work, checked up on any priors, captured my finger prints(electronically). Followed by Brief interview with the Lieutenant.

Now they have to send everything off to the FBI for a background check.

They said this takes 11 weeks right now. Is this normal? What are they checking?


Also is it safe to assume my prints are now part of an nationwide electronic print database?

Is this a normal process compared to other states?

I can hardly decide which part of that process is the LEAST constitutional. Does your anus sting?

lol I didn't add the part about after getting the 60 day temporary permit after my fbi check comes back in 11 weeks I have 60 days to goto the state police barracks and get my permanent 5 year permit for anther 35.00

constitution state whooohooo!

 

[JDub02]

wow .. for my permit in PA, I walked in to the sherriff's office with the filled out 1 page application, gave them a check for $25, got my picture taken, and walked out 5 minutes later with my carry permit.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
Nothing said during the interview by either you or the LT was noteworthy?

not particularly. He was pretty cool actually. Re-iterated the importance of declaring my firearm if I'm ever pulled over because any cop thats been on the job "for 6 months can tell immediately who is carrying"

 

[Unheard]

No permit here to buy. Just a 3 minute phone BG check.

Carry permit took me 8 hours in a class, $200 fee + class fee, trip to the DMV for photo, and 2 months waiting time.


I live in TN

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: Unheard
No permit here to buy. Just a 3 minute phone BG check.

Carry permit took me 8 hours in a class, $200 fee + class fee, trip to the DMV for photo, and 2 months waiting time.


I live in TN

*choke*

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
Nothing said during the interview by either you or the LT was noteworthy?

not particularly. He was pretty cool actually. Re-iterated the importance of declaring my firearm if I'm ever pulled over because any cop thats been on the job "for 6 months can tell immediately who is carrying"

Then they're doing it wrong.

Not all states have a requirement to inform law enforcement, but some do.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Complete Process

1) Take NRA basic course with range time. Bring Certificate to interview
2) completed & notarized application
3) passport/birth certificate
4) proof of residency
5) Records release form
6) Local town questionnaire
7) Disclosure of any arrests or car accidents and the disposition
8) Finger prints
9) 35.00 to town
10) $19.25 to Department of Public Saftey

11) Interview with Ranking officer. Review paper work.

12) 11 weeks for FBI check

13) Chief of Police issues 60 day temporary permit
14) $35.00 to stat police barracks
15) issue 5 year CC permit

 

[mugs]

Must be nice just to be able to get a CCW permit. I'd take a class, I'd pay $200 or more, but they won't let me.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: JDMnAR1


I didn't say I believed it, just said it wasn't legal.

The more people vote fear vs freedom, the more we will be categorized.

While a database may not be 'legal' good luck proving it. About 90% of enforcement is going against the book to get something by the book.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

There should be no background check, no ID, no training required, no database, and no tests period.

"...shall not be infringed" <-- that means altered, convoluted, changed, weakened, or modified in any way. It also means any law passed relating to arms (not just guns), is invalid ab initio, because the Constitution supersedes all law. Basically every gun statute on the books in this country at any level, city, county, state, or federal is invalid, including ones that relate to cannons, high explosives, automatic weapons, etc.

The amendment exists for three purposes. 1. Crime reduction. The idea was that it is everyone's responsibility to prevent crime and to find and arrest criminals in the event a crime took place. 2. Civil defense against foreign or domestic invaders. 3. Tyranny prevention. This is the most important aspect of the amendment; an armed populace would suffer no kings. It is the issue written about most extensively by the FFs.

Funny how we are sold the notion that arms should be regulated by the very people who have the most to lose by keeping them free. Hilarious.

 

[Saint Nick]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: NightDarker
Nebraska here, and we fill out a simple form and pay a $5 fee. In three days, permiting everything checks out, we get the permit.

Out of curiosity I pulled up the CCW form, and this is one of the questions :laugh:

Are you a fugitive from justice?
If yes, list any details including date and place from which you are a fugitive.

Yeah I thought that was pretty hilarious, too :laugh:

 

[Saint Nick]

OP: It sounds like you are getting a CCW permit as opposed to a "handling" permit -- meaning the ability to buy, lease, or rent a pistol.

 

[sygyzy]

Why are you asking other people what is "normal" or not. Laws very by state and county. If they tell you 11 weeks, it's 11 weeks. When I did Secret clearance, it was something like 2 months which was unusual, most people's were something like 4-6 months.

 

[Unheard]

Originally posted by: mugs
Must be nice just to be able to get a CCW permit. I'd take a class, I'd pay $200 or more, but they won't let me.

Well if you would do those things, would you move?

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: NightDarker

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: NightDarker
Nebraska here, and we fill out a simple form and pay a $5 fee. In three days, permiting everything checks out, we get the permit.

Out of curiosity I pulled up the CCW form, and this is one of the questions :laugh:

Are you a fugitive from justice?
If yes, list any details including date and place from which you are a fugitive.

Yeah I thought that was pretty hilarious, too :laugh:

Made me laugh for sure.

:laugh:

 

[antyler]

they will probably check with all of your local law enforcement agencies, and make sure you have never had any negative contact with them, and no warrants etc out for you.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
There should be no background check, no ID, no training required, no database, and no tests period.

"...shall not be infringed" <-- that means altered, convoluted, changed, weakened, or modified in any way. It also means any law passed relating to arms (not just guns), is invalid ab initio, because the Constitution supersedes all law. Basically every gun statute on the books in this country at any level, city, county, state, or federal is invalid, including ones that relate to cannons, high explosives, automatic weapons, etc.

The amendment exists for three purposes. 1. Crime reduction. The idea was that it is everyone's responsibility to prevent crime and to find and arrest criminals in the event a crime took place. 2. Civil defense against foreign or domestic invaders. 3. Tyranny prevention. This is the most important aspect of the amendment; an armed populace would suffer no kings. It is the issue written about most extensively by the FFs.

Funny how we are sold the notion that arms should be regulated by the very people who have the most to lose by keeping them free. Hilarious.

No ID? So any kid should be able to buy a gun? What about convicted criminals? Or foreigners on vacation or illegally living here?

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: NightDarker
OP: It sounds like you are getting a CCW permit as opposed to a "handling" permit -- meaning the ability to buy, lease, or rent a pistol.

...really? what was it, was it this line?

15) issue 5 year CC permit

or maybe this one?

Re-iterated the importance of declaring my firearm

or maybe this?

to buy a pistol in CT you have to have the CC permit

this maybe?

The only permit you can get in CT is for CC.

edit: sorry, long day.

 

[spaceman]

it took around 6 months in ma to get a ccw for me

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Unheard

Originally posted by: mugs
Must be nice just to be able to get a CCW permit. I'd take a class, I'd pay $200 or more, but they won't let me.

Well if you would do those things, would you move?

No

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: mugs
Must be nice just to be able to get a CCW permit. I'd take a class, I'd pay $200 or more, but they won't let me.

yeap. but i live in IL so thats not going to happen.

 

[schmedy]

Process here in Vermont:
Are you 21 and can own a firearm and pass the background check when they call it in?
You now own a firearm....if you are allowed to own it, you are allowed to carry concealed in Vermont...
You will spend more time picking out things then "the process"

Bad thing here is since there is no permit to carry concealed, no other state recognizes us to carry there, where as in CT, you my find out some states will accept your CCW and if you are visiting you may carry there....but of course check local laws, and transport laws of every state your drive thru.

 

[LTC8K6]

Well, the OP has edited so my response now looks silly...

About the same in NC for a CW permit.