just got hired, but lost birth certificate and SS card. do I have any options?

weflyhigh

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hey, so I just got hired and started work today. I couldn't find my birth certificate or social security card this morning or tonight. no idea where they would be because I can't remember the last time I would have even used them (maybe to get my drivers' permit?).

also, I don't have a passport - never been out of the country.

do I have any options? the employer needs proof of my eligibility to work in the US along with some form of government ID. I have military IDs, student IDs, a drivers' license, but no kind of paperwork. I just had my dad order a new birth certificate but it will take 10-30 business days to process.

do I have any options? kinda need this ASAP
 
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mikegg

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Wow... what a coincidence huh? They probably going to send you to Mexico.
 

Codewiz

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Simple, use your military ID and drivers license at the social security office to get a new SSN card.

Most places you can get a birth certificate within 1 week if you are willing to pay the fees.
 

rudeguy

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Simple, use your military ID and drivers license at the social security office to get a new SSN card.

Most places you can get a birth certificate within 1 week if you are willing to pay the fees.

and you can do it online

I had to pay $30 to have mine sent from IN. Did it all online and had it within a couple days.
 

weflyhigh

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Simple, use your military ID and drivers license at the social security office to get a new SSN card.

Most places you can get a birth certificate within 1 week if you are willing to pay the fees.

how long does it take to get a new SSN card? My military ID has my SSN on it if that helps anything.
 

SheHateMe

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Contact your Secretary of State about your SS Card, it won't come for a bit though. For your BC, you need to go to your State Department that handles those types of things. Once again, you won't get the second copy for a while (unless you pay extra).
 

HomerJS

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hey, so I just got hired and started work today. I couldn't find my birth certificate or social security card this morning or tonight. no idea where they would be because I can't remember the last time I would have even used them (maybe to get my drivers' permit?).

also, I don't have a passport - never been out of the country.

do I have any options? the employer needs proof of my eligibility to work in the US along with some form of government ID. I have military IDs, student IDs, a drivers' license, but no kind of paperwork. I just had my dad order a new birth certificate but it will take 10-30 business days to process.

do I have any options? kinda need this ASAP

Usually if you go to the county seat of your birth you can get an official copy that day or quickly.
 

weflyhigh

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Usually if you go to the county seat of your birth you can get an official copy that day or quickly.

I was born in center city Philadelphia and am in NY right now. I wonder if I can do this even tho Philly is so big. Also, I wonder if my brother can go pick it up. Would mean asking him to go down to the courthouse for it for potentially a few hours, then me taking a 3 hour train home to get it from him and 3 hour train or bus immediately back to NYC.

it looks like you could get a new SS card the same day but you need a birth certificate? I'm gonna call and ask if military ID is acceptable. pretty sure you have to be a citizen to be in the military - it's stupid that's not proof enough
 

weflyhigh

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could always go home.
my mom/dad/sister have been looking all over my home home for either my birth certificate or social security card and can't find either. usually my dad is really good at keeping things like that organized so it's really surprising and frustrating to not have them

List C (column 3). If SS, must be original or receipt + original within 90 days.
from what I've found online, seems like I could get a SS card or receipt, but would need a birth certificate to do so
 

rudeguy

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my mom/dad/sister have been looking all over my home home for either my birth certificate or social security card and can't find either. usually my dad is really good at keeping things like that organized so it's really surprising and frustrating to not have them


from what I've found online, seems like I could get a SS card or receipt, but would need a birth certificate to do so

This may be true.

Its been 5 years since I had to do hiring paperwork, so I'm going off memory. I remember I9 and the 3 stupid columns.
 

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my mom/dad/sister have been looking all over my home home for either my birth certificate or social security card and can't find either. usually my dad is really good at keeping things like that organized so it's really surprising and frustrating to not have them


from what I've found online, seems like I could get a SS card or receipt, but would need a birth certificate to do so

Most likely. The recipt verifies that you qualify for an SS card. How long ago were you made the offer of employment?
 

dougp

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Do you have your discharge papers? Not sure why they wouldn't take military ID and discharge papers until you get your BC.
 

rudeguy

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Do you have your discharge papers? Not sure why they wouldn't take military ID and discharge papers until you get your BC.

because its all about what the I9 wants. Its a big deal if an employee works (earns pay) without proving he has the right to work.
 

PenguinPower

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Do you have your discharge papers? Not sure why they wouldn't take military ID and discharge papers until you get your BC.

A DD-214 is a list B document. He needs to establish work eligibility per List C.
 

weflyhigh

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Most likely. The recipt verifies that you qualify for an SS card. How long ago were you made the offer of employment?

I got the offer letter the 19th via email and the new hire paperwork probably a few days later. I check for my SS card, but couldn't find it. just assumed my birth certificate would be easy to find. definitely a mistake on my part. also, I didn't even know having either would be a requirement (first new job in a looong time)
 

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Yah yah, I get that - just wasn't sure how "flexible" his employer might be if he's in the process of obtaining his BC. Read my last sentence, just not sure what their obligation would be in terms of a time limit.
 

PenguinPower

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Yah yah, I get that - just wasn't sure how "flexible" his employer might be if he's in the process of obtaining his BC. Read my last sentence, just not sure what their obligation would be in terms of a time limit.

No flexibility. 3 days post start date or he can't work.
 
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