just got hired, but lost birth certificate and SS card. do I have any options?

[PenguinPower]

I got the offer letter the 19th via email and the new hire paperwork probably a few days later. I check for my SS card, but couldn't find it. just assumed my birth certificate would be easy to find. definitely a mistake on my part. also, I didn't even know having either would be a requirement (first new job in a looong time)

Read my last post. Sorry, guy, but your employer is pretty limited in options.

Edit: Being fair, any employer worth a damn communicates the I-9 requirements with the job offer.

 

[dougp]

No flexibility. 3 days post start date or he can't work.

Yah, then he screwed himself.

 

[weflyhigh]

No flexibility. 3 days post start date or he can't work.

is this a strict law? holy crap I'm nervous

 

[rudeguy]

Yah, then he screwed himself.

I think he can find his documents if he tries

 

[PenguinPower]

is this a strict law? holy crap I'm nervous

"Employers must complete Section 2 by examining evidence of identity and employment authorization within three business days of the date employment begins...[or]Employees must present receipts within three business days of the date employment begins and must present valid replacement documents within 90 days or other specified time."

...and must be attested to under the penalty of perjury.

 

[weflyhigh]

"Employees must present receipts within three business days of the date employment begins and must present valid replacement documents within 90 days or other specified time."

...and must be attested to under the penalty of perjury.

my dad emailed the receipt he got from VitalChek confirming that he ordered a new birth certificate and that it would be delivered within 10-30 business days. is this valid as "receipts"?

 

[Nintendesert]

Just find your enlistment documents, they made a copy of my SS card and notarized it.

 

[PenguinPower]

my dad emailed the receipt he got from VitalChek confirming that he ordered a new birth certificate and that it would be delivered within 10-30 business days. is this valid as "receipts"?

Should work for 90 days as long as it shows it as a request for replacement and is being issued by a government body. HR wont like you much since they will have to follow up - and if they are E-Verify participant will have to increase their audit count- but, oh well. You'll be legal for 90 days.

 

[weflyhigh]

my brother is going to the Philadelphia public office (http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=556854&mode=2) tomorrow at 8am to see if they can make a copy of my birth certificate that day. then I'll take the train home immediately after work (6-9ish), pick it up from there and immediately take the train home, 9-12, and then pass out for 6 hours and go back to work

can't wait!

really really hope this works out

 

[PenguinPower]

my brother is going to the Philadelphia public office (http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=556854&mode=2) tomorrow at 8am to see if they can make a copy of my birth certificate that day. then I'll take the train home immediately after work (6-9ish), pick it up from there and immediately take the train home, 9-12, and then pass out for 6 hours and go back to work

can't wait!

really really hope this works out

I wouldn't put him through that. Can't accept anything but an original with a raised seal.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Remain where you are. I've requested that the INS pay you a visit to see if your papers are in order.

 

[weflyhigh]

I wouldn't put him through that. Can't accept anything but an original with a raised seal.

what other options do I have? he isn't really doing anything tomorrow so it's not a huge deal for him if it means I can keep my job

the office's website says "We suggest you review the list of Who May Request a Birth or Death Certificate to determine if you are eligible to apply for a certified copy."
certified copy would imply that it has a raised seal, though, and count for citizenship verification, right?

 

[PenguinPower]

what other options do I have? he isn't really doing anything tomorrow so it's not a huge deal for him if it means I can keep my job

the office's website says "We suggest you review the list of Who May Request a Birth or Death Certificate to determine if you are eligible to apply for a certified copy."
certified copy would imply that it has a raised seal, though, and count for citizenship verification, right?

Seems in PA that is the case. You're lucky. I hope you start planning better once you start your job.

 

[bradley]

Due to enhanced 9/11 security, it might take weeks to renew your ID.

My advice, apply online for your *raised seal* birth certificate (very easy to obtain) and have it expedited. With a raised seal birth certificate, it would take one day to have a new SS card printed at the SS Adminstration offices.

In the meantime, take a passport picture, fill out the passport paperwork and have a relative vouch for you... they also need to fill out paperwork with a valid ID.

Have the passport card and birth certificate expeditited and you might be looking at 2-4 weeks. Appear in person at the Dept of State, you might be looking at 1-2 weeks. Alternatively, there are passport expeditors who claim a fast turnaround of only 1 day.

Once you have a passport ID, you can apply for almost any ID imaginable. Good luck.

 

[PenguinPower]

Due to enhanced 9/11 security, it might take weeks to renew your ID.

My advice, apply online for your *raised seal* birth certificate (very easy to obtain) and have it expedited. With a raised seal birth certificate, it would take one day to have a new SS card printed at the SS Adminstration offices.

In the meantime, take a passport picture, fill out the passport paperwork and have a relative vouch for you... they also need to fill out paperwork with a valid ID.

Have the passport card and birth certificate expeditited and you might be looking at 2-4 weeks. Appear in person at the Dept of State, you might be looking at 1-2 weeks. Alternatively, there are passport expeditors who claim a fast turnaround of only 1 day.

Once you have a passport ID, you can apply for almost any ID imaginable. Good luck.

Do people not read the threads they post in...

 

[postmortemIA]

must be your first job that requires proof of work authorization

j/k

 

[LumbergTech]

When I got my job I had to get a replacement SS card. They gave me a temporary one that day.

 

[weflyhigh]

When I got my job I had to get a replacement SS card. They gave me a temporary one that day.

did you bring your birth certificate to the place?

 

[weflyhigh]

Seems in PA that is the case. You're lucky. I hope you start planning better once you start your job.

even if it isn't a certified one with a raised seal, it looks like there's a social security office in the Bronx that opens at 7am. I could go home tomorrow, get the less official certificate, take it back, go to the office right when it opens, get a temporary SS card, be 15-20mins late for work and use that for verification? the social security office's website seems less strict and hasn't mentioned anything about if the birth certificate needs a raised seal

 

[bradley]

Do people not read the threads they post in...

Actually, I only missed the part about him having a valid driver's license. Otherwise, he would be SOL.

A valid driver's license and raised seal birth certificate should get him a valid SS card in the same day.... be prepared for a possible long wait. Anyway, all the paperwork and terms are found online.

 

[destrekor]

Are they in your wallet, by chance? And you just completely forgot you had them there?

 

[bigrash]

Just get a temp SS card. And make sure you keep the new card in a safe place.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

even if it isn't a certified one with a raised seal, it looks like there's a social security office in the Bronx that opens at 7am. I could go home tomorrow, get the less official certificate, take it back, go to the office right when it opens, get a temporary SS card, be 15-20mins late for work and use that for verification? the social security office's website seems less strict and hasn't mentioned anything about if the birth certificate needs a raised seal

For a replacement Social Security card, If you were born in the US, all you need for a replacement card is 1 current, unexpired ID.....no photocopies. If you insist on bringing the birth certificate, it has to be an original OR certified copy (and by certified, I mean raised seal, rubber stamp with signature, etc).

Because Bronx, NY has a Social Security Card Center (820 Concourse Village West, Second Floor Bronx, NY 10451-3638) you MUST go there to apply for a replacement Social Security card if that's where you live or receive mail. In NYC, all the boroughs except for Staten Island have a dedicated card center.

Although it takes time for a card to be mailed, you can go to any Social Security office about getting a document with your number....but if you want verification, there's SSA-89...or if your employer participates, Social Security Number Verification Service (SSNVS).

FYI, you cannot request a new/replacement SS card online; you can download a form but you have to either go to a field office / applicable card center OR mail in the SS-5 form with the original document(s).

For employment verification, use e-verify...iirc you can go online, or contact Social Security if you have problems online.

 

[Wheezer]

how long does it take to get a new SSN card? My military ID has my SSN on it if that helps anything.

Usually within 2-3 business days. Once they get your information into the computer one will be sent though USPS. The worst part is sitting there waiting, it is worse than the BMV. I highly suggest you get there when they first open.

 

[weflyhigh]

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