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[Sonikku]

But girls have cooties!

 

[ivwshane]

Will everyone just calm the fuck down with the rape shit and take it somewhere else.


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Calm the fuck down about guns in this thread
Calm the fuck down about rape in this thread



@vi edit can I be a mod now?

Its directly related to your thread. Do you need me to explain it to you?

 

[soulcougher73]

I'm fine with it but I hope girl scouts are also letting boys in. You know. For fairness and all.

 

[BigDH01]

For those who still haven't read the Scouts' justification...

The Boy Scouts surveyed parents and discovered that parents not currently involved in the scouts were interested in having their daughters participate. In order to increase membership, they will now allow female scouts into dens (where previously they were only involved in other science and nature programs). The dens are still separated by gender.

Honestly, this is a lot of thread for what is really just an attempt by the scouts to increase their numbers.

 

[ivwshane]

I'm fine with it but I hope girl scouts are also letting boys in. You know. For fairness and all.

Absolutely! Is there something that the girl scouts teach that is not applicable to boys?

 

[ivwshane]

For those who still haven't read the Scouts' justification...

The Boy Scouts surveyed parents and discovered that parents not currently involved in the scouts were interested in having their daughters participate. In order to increase membership, they will now allow female scouts into dens (where previously they were only involved in other science and nature programs). The dens are still separated by gender.

Honestly, this is a lot of thread for what is really just an attempt by the scouts to increase their numbers.

All but maybe three people agree.

 

[Victorian Gray]

FYI, Scouts Canada has been co ed since 1998.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

FYI, Scouts Canada has been co ed since 1998.

Sadly we don't have bacon eating badges & puck crafting badges here

 

[Thebobo]

I think the scouting in general is doomed. Kids tend to be more interested in cell phones and video games. My kids certainly have no interest in going into the woods.

I loved it when my family took us camping. Took us a road trip across the states just to see the national parks and go camping and backpacking. Never forget that.

 

[OutHouse]

I liked when the guy said "As a Eagle Scout" as if it provided some kind of authority to his point.

were you born an asshole? you seem like an authority of being one.

 

[ivwshane]

were you born an asshole? you seem like an authority of being one.

Did he hurt your feelings snowflake?

 

[UglyCasanova]

for the record I have no children and was barely involved in the Boy Scouts as a kid.

Not sure how I feel about this, I like the idea of modernization and I also like the idea of a boys only group to teach boys how to be men.
Thoughts guys?

I’ve raised both a boy and a girl and always wished my little girl could join the Boy Scouts. She was in Girl Scouts but it was horrible compared. I see this as a good thing, it opens up the opportunity for girls to take part in a great organization. And there’s not really any reason it should be segregated by boys and girls, especially for the cub scouts.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Sadly we don't have bacon eating badges & puck crafting badges here

Best I could come up with on such short notice.

 

[cbrunny]

This happened ~15 years ago in Canada. Damn, you guys are slow.

 

[Kaido]

First blush reaction aside, after reading some articles on this, I like this idea. For reference:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/us/boy-scouts-will-allow-girls-to-join/index.html

1. It sounds like only Cub Scouts will be dual-gender. The older groups will be separate, but girls will still be allowed to get an Eagle Scout award. So they're not just throwing the girls in with the boys.

2. An Eagle Scout award is great resume fodder. It shows that you can finish things. I don't know what the girl scout equivalent is, but I'm guessing there's a lot of bias towards "top cookie seller" vs. Eagle Scout, so that would be a nice feather in your hat when applying to colleges or jobs.

3. My wife was not into standard feminine stuff growing up - didn't like knitting or baking or stuff like that, wanted to do archery & go on the ATV's & stuff. Polar opposite of what the girls scouts typically do, afaik. So this sounds like it would be a pretty good way for girls who aren't into traditional girly stuff to have fun.

4. CNN's article makes a good point - there are a lot of households where both parents work and there are a lot of single-parent households. Being able to send your daughter or both your girls & boys into a single program would be really convenient.

5. No doubt they are trying to raise their numbers. Inside is a lot more fun than outside these days, with cheap big screen TV's, tablets, VR systems, the Internet, etc.

6. I was not outdoorsy as a kid & honestly wasn't always super thrilled to be in Boy Scouts, but it gave me a lot of good experiences. We're so PC & "no homo" these days that not a lot of male bonding goes on like it did in generations past. Outside of the military, I'm not even sure if there are any organizations other than maybe street gangs where boys get to bond. Or get to do stuff like go camping in the snow or canoeing for a week or stuff like that. So offering a program for girls to bond with other girls & get to do actual fun stuff that maybe their family doesn't normally do like fish or camp or hike would be pretty cool.

I think a big problem is the lack of good implementation at the local level...from what I've seen, a lot of troops are kinda lax. When we would switch leaders, sometimes we'd just end up playing basketball or whatever every week for like, months, instead of doing anything related to scouts.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Best I could come up with on such short notice.

Haha I like how the bacon badge is shaped like a plate. I was expecting Canadian Bacon but good work.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Haha I like how the bacon badge is shaped like a plate. I was expecting Canadian Bacon but good work.

All I found for back bacon were these earrings

 

[ch33zw1z]

I'm not surprised. Our area has had declining membership for decades.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Our area has had declining membership for decades.

When I first read that the first thing that came to my mind was the hair club for men.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Lol

 

[Bitek]

Seems talibanish to me to have gender specific clubs and rules for kids.

They are teaching community service, as well as fishing, knot tying, camping and other such outdoor skills. Girls go camping too..

I would be perfectly fine with girls in scouts.

 

[realibrad]

Sexual assault doesn't necessarily mean rape. So no, I don't think you can stop bad people from doing bad things but you certainly can create a culture where people are treated and respected equally.

So what type of things do you think they will teach that is not already common place? Again, if someone is willing to assault someone its not from ignorance but apathy of others. Do you honestly believe the scouts are going to teach boys not to assault girls by teaching them someone that is not already basic? Do you believe these things are not common already and ignored?

 

[Atreus21]

I don't think it's about teaching girls or restricting girls. Seems like it's more about a club of young men that have a male centric culture to learn what it is to be an adult male.
Again minimal scouting experience in my background so maybe I'm completely wrong.

I was in the boy scouts until I was 18 and you're pretty much correct.

 

[Atreus21]

I don't have much experience with girl scouts, but the little bit of research I've done seems like they are still preparing girls for the 1950s, not 2030.

Both my brother and I were in the boy scouts and two of my sisters were in the girl scouts.

Not sure about preparing them for the 1950s, but they certainly didn't do as cool things as we did.

 

[Atreus21]

In theory there shouldn't be an issue with boys and girls sleeping in the same tents. The moral values and good judgment taught to scout members should be enough to prevent any foul play from occurring and strict rules should prevent inappropriate consenting behavior from happening in such an environment.
In theory.

In theory, such a situation would also teach boys and girls that they are equals and that forcing yourself on another is wrong and treating girls different than boys is also wrong. Basically it would remove the societal norms of women be subservient to men and reduce the number of Harvey Weinsteins in this country.
In theory.

In theory, there shouldn't be an issue with boys and girls swimming together in the nude by your logic.

The most principled man in the world is very stupid if he thinks the principles in his head will shield him from endless temptation in his loins. A wise man avoids the temptation altogether.