Just killed mouse with glue trap and PETA says I'm inhumane

[Imp]

I use to feel that glue traps were more humane since you didn't kill them. Didn't factor in the 'starve to death' thing. I live in an old house, and we use to catch mice with them all the time. Parents finished them off usually.

 

[Muse]

Fuck PETA.
Thats all. I have no concern with mouse traps one way or the other.
I just wanted to say "fuck PETA".

Shit, what's PETA?

If I have a mouse problem I set a mouse trap. Glue? A little peanut butter in a mouse trap. For rats it's just a bigger trap. Wham, the varmint is dead!
- - - -
Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life. -Burton Hills

 

[lxskllr]

I'm uneasy with killing mice. I don't want them in my house, but I don't like killing critters just to kill them. I occasionally use snap traps, but they don't always do the job. I've had a couple that lived, but had broken backs; I then had to finish them off. My kittiots sometimes get a mouse, but they just play with it. I let them play with them for awhile, then take the mouse from them, and go for a walk with my daughter. I set it free a good ways from my house.

Ideally I'd live trap them and let them go. I haven't had the money for live traps lately, so it's snappers or kittiots for the mice :^D

 

[Red Squirrel]

I don't trust this one at all. That's probably one of the most horrific ways to die.

I won't link it but the first google result for "man electrocuted" will show you what electricity is all about.

Yeah I have trouble believing it's humane as well. From what I understand it's like being tased so you die within 10 secs of exposure, well, a small rodent will. A bigger animal would maybe get stuck and suffer during this whole time.

Live traps or snap traps are the best preference imo.

 

[Squisher]

Float a lighted candle down a river as an act of contrition and all will be good.


I once knew a guy that that would kill rats by electrocuting them and then bring them back to life with rat CPR so he could kill them again. Now, that was sick.

 

[P120_T31212AN]

Kill em all!!!

 

[IronWing]

I laugh at PETA haters. I marvel that a completely ineffective group of sanctimonious headline hunters can send otherwise reasonably calm people into foamy mouth snits. PETA has no impact on anything. They are street theater with occasionally naked people. Yet folks here act like PETA killed their children or keyed their cars.

 

[Jeff7]

Another vote here for snap-traps.
I find that it works best if you get the Victor traps with the metal trigger - bend it up a bit, then put some dried fruit in there, preferably something with tough skin, like dried cherries. Bend the end of the trigger back down to hold the fruit in place.
Usually then the mouse will try tugging on the tough skin to get the thing loose - and they even tend to die with their teeth still latched on the bait.

Too often with peanut butter, they manage to lick the trigger clean without setting off the trap.

Also, tie the string to something on the trap. That way if a mouse manages to get caught somewhere other than on its neck, it won't be able to drag the trap into a wall and die there. It's no fun to try to figure out where the stink of rotting meat is coming from - and you lose a perfectly good trap.



Fun story on that note: Back at my parents' house, there was a small storage area in the ceiling of the garage, which was little more than plywood sheets placed across the rafters. There were numerous places where the plywood did not cover, and thus it was simply a clear drop down from there to the concrete floor below.
Anyhow, there were mice here and there, so I set some traps near the edge of the plywood, and tied them down.

The next morning, I heard my mom laughing almost uncontrollably, and went to see what was going on. From the garage ceiling, were hanging the two traps, with a mouse in each one. I guess it was like something out of some stupid horror movie or something....except with mice instead of people.

 

[Zebo]

I laugh at PETA haters. I marvel that a completely ineffective group of sanctimonious headline hunters can send otherwise reasonably calm people into foamy mouth snits. PETA has no impact on anything. They are street theater with occasionally naked people. Yet folks here act like PETA killed their children or keyed their cars.

PETA is like unions in a way - a good thing gone too far. They were instrumental at banning dog fighting and stuff which most people are down with but now 99% of shit they do is put animals above humans life and livelihood.

 

[adairusmc]

I laugh at PETA haters. I marvel that a completely ineffective group of sanctimonious headline hunters can send otherwise reasonably calm people into foamy mouth snits. PETA has no impact on anything. They are street theater with occasionally naked people. Yet folks here act like PETA killed their children or keyed their cars.

Well, they have financially supported domestic terrorism.

 

[Mo0o]

Hmm could put some rat poison in the middle of teh traps. So at least they can die quicker while stuck to the pad

 

[guyver01]

I laugh at PETA haters. I marvel that a completely ineffective group of sanctimonious headline hunters can send otherwise reasonably calm people into foamy mouth snits. Yet folks here act like PETA killed their children or keyed their cars.

Nope... not "foamy mouth" .. but anyone who puts an animal's life (especially a RAT .. wtf?) above that of a human.. needs to be eradicated.

I suggest putting PETA supporters in a glue trap.

 

[OverVolt]

A guy hiking got his hand caught under a boulder that fell and he had to cut off his hand to get free. It's all the same instinct.

 

[BigToque]

I would put out the traps that catch the mice without hurting them and put them outside.

Truthfully, I put most creatures I find in my house outside without killing them.

Honestly, unless they're in my bedroom, I usually don't even care. They'll probably just get eaten by a spider eventually.

 

[0roo0roo]

Nope... not "foamy mouth" .. but anyone who puts an animal's life (especially a RAT .. wtf?) above that of a human.. needs to be eradicated.

I suggest putting PETA supporters in a glue trap.

the nuts arent harmless either, in the uk their bretheren harass scientists and do insane sh*t like dig up and kidnap the remains of fur farm owners.

 

[KMFJD]

the nuts arent harmless either, in the uk their bretheren harass scientists and do insane sh*t like dig up and kidnap the remains of fur farm owners.

They dug up a man's corpse? wtf

 

[HenryC]

Yeah, glue traps are horrible. And it's not only PETA who disagree with them either. You have to remember that an animal caught on these things will be very frightened, and that means more urination and excretion. So glue traps are not very good at disease prevention in the first place. Now, for a couple of points to address here:

I'd of let him suffer on the trap...

Outside of course.

Why?

Glue traps are fine. They're better than having a poisoned mouse die behind your walls, and nobody cares about mice suffering.

Yet the majority of people here care. Here's a riveting thought for you: a mouse could get off the glue trap, leave blood everywhere from its gnawed limbs and pulled off skin, and die in your walls.

It's a rodent, I couldn't give a rat's ass if it suffered or not.

Douche.

PETA assumes people will let the mice stay stuck and starve. Also, sometimes the mice will try to rip their shit off to free themselves.

Because that's what usually happens. Many people are squeamish or indifferent, and find that the convenience of throwing the animal into the garbage is better than ensuring that its suffering ends. The trap instructions encourage people just to "dispose" of it as well. And the mice may just as well stop struggling to the point where they are too weak - they have fast metabolisms after all, half a day of no food and they'll be lethargic.

Who gives a fuck...

It's just a mouse. My cat catches, tortures and kills mice all the time.

So you're basing your morals on what your cat does? Interesting.

Funnily enough, someone could just as easily say "it's just a cat" to find an excuse to abuse your pet.

I'd let it suffer in glue,...

last time we just threw it still alive in a plastic shopping bag and threw it in the trash outside..

People of your ilk are pathetic and deserve to have every bit of contempt thrown at them. In these instances I really wouldn't mind a bunch of rabid PETA supporters to make your life a living hell.

You're killing the mouse anyway. That's the worst thing you can do to any living thing. The suffering it endures pales in comparison to that essential fact. If you hate the mouse enough to want it to die it seems hypocritical to have even a passing concern over any pain it undergoes in the process of dying.

You really couldn't be any more wrong.

There are things out there worse than death. Killing and compassion are not really mutually exclusive... so how is it hypocritical? Someone might hate the mouse enough to kill it, but to torture it? Make it suffer more? Only those who are fucked in the head would have that in mind. It is not about the killing, it is about human compassion. Let's hope for your sake that if you're dying from a terminal illness, someone would give enough shit to give you pain medication... to make your passing as painless as possible. But no, scratch that thought... they're going to let you die. So why should they concern themselves over your pain?

Ridiculous logic. It amazes me people will find any excuse to validate their cruelty just because they are either too lazy or not caring enough.

Hmm could put some rat poison in the middle of teh traps. So at least they can die quicker while stuck to the pad

Stupid suggestion. Why don't you just smash its brains with a heavy object? Give it poison, you'll just make it worse.

For what it's worth, I think glue traps should be illegal. They're very inhumane, unsanitary and there are less crueller traps that do the job just as well, if not better.

 

[HenryC]

Nope... not "foamy mouth" .. but anyone who puts an animal's life (especially a RAT .. wtf?) above that of a human.. needs to be eradicated.

I suggest putting PETA supporters in a glue trap.

But it's only just you saying that, because so far I've yet to see one indication of someone putting the life of a rat above a human being.

Feeling sorry for a rat and making its death less painless because you actually have *gasp* a little bit of compassion in you doesn't mean what you are saying. You're still killing it, still regarding it as vermin, etc.

How about the people who put their pets' lives ahead of serial killers, paedophiles, etc? Should they be eradicated? Hell, I could just as easily say the people who have zero compassion for killing a rat should be eradicated... but then again I'm not one who is against freedom of speech just because their POV conflict with mine.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I feel a disturbance as millions of necro rodents rise from the dead.

 

[HenryC]

It's scary to read all the PETA inspired comments in here about humane/inhumane ways to get rid of pest. Do you people look for humane ways to eliminate cockroaches? Is swatting a fly cruel?
How about fly traps?

I'll address this comment on it's own, because I find it lacking in common sense.

You don't need to be a PETA card-carrying member to have empathy, first of all. Second, how is human compassion scary? If anything, the lack of compassion is because it demonstrates the mindset of a borderline sociopath and the acceptance of unnecessarily cruel practices. Third, it doesn't matter if it's a pest - the animal can feel pain/suffer so as moral beings we ought to respect that. Pest animals can't help what they are, have no malice and are such a big problem because of us. You also have no reason to be inhumane.

And my final point - some people may as well be humane to insects, but comparing them to mice is ridiculous. Mice have very developed nervous systems, have pain receptors and their cognitive abilities are advanced enough to interpret pain enough to be traumatised by it/avoid it in the future. Insects? Not at all.

Ultimately it is about respect of life, and of suffering. And I think that by the actions we cause, some suffering can occur (sometimes it is unavoidable) but when we can, we should minimise it. Or is that too scary for you?

 

[HenryC]

I feel a disturbance as millions of necro rodents rise from the dead.

Relatively fresh I might add.

 

[VirtualLarry]

It's a rodent, I couldn't give a rat's ass if it suffered or not.

This.

 

[HenryC]

This.

Douche.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

So, which one of you guys alter ego is Henry here? All 50 posts of his are whining about peoples treatment of vermin. I don't mind an agenda but, cryin' out loud, at least learn to be a little more entertaining.

 

[destrekor]

We had a mouse once roaming around on a counter top. There was no traps, or maybe it found poison and was walking around all poisoned like. Don't exactly know the whole story, but I know we didn't have glue traps at the time.

I didn't know exactly what happened, wasn't there until right before the problem was solved (this was quite awhile ago, I was a kid)... my dad had the mouse in a towel, head exposed. Took a butter knife, held it by the knife end, and slammed the handle down on the neck. Critter never knew what hit it.

I'm not a defender of vermin or anything, but I agree, all animals deserve a quick painless death. Whether an animal is intelligent or not doesn't matter, an animal doesn't need to suffer. They feel pain, they understand life or death.

Imagine a human on a large glue trap. Are you going to wait around and die of starvation/dehydration (technically, animals will die of dehydration first. still... that takes a few days for humans)? You might, might wait a day hoping another human will stumble upon you and help free you. But eventually, you're going to decide either a) fuck it, let's wait until I die and HOPE someone comes around, or b) I'm going to fucking go mental for a little bit and do absolutely whatever necessary to get free. If that means breaking limbs and yes, maybe even trying to bit yourself (flexibility and teeth/jaw issues might get in the way)... hell, there was a story of a guy who got stuck after a rock fell when we was trying to slip through a tight area in some rock formation/canyon/desert area. Nobody was around, so he broke his own arm, and he happened to have a knife on him. He sawed through the broken bone area, took the sawed off portion with him, and stumbled out and tried finding help. He did end up surviving (he was on some late night talk show forever ago).

Animals understand the basic things of life, it's all instinct for animals, including humans. Eventually, you'll do whatever it takes to survive, giving up is a uniquely human issue in most cases, as most animals will die in the attempt to survive, not through inaction.

In short, I like the tasty flesh of animals. But if you're going to kill an animal, make it quick.

A guy hiking got his hand caught under a boulder that fell and he had to cut off his hand to get free. It's all the same instinct.

hadn't seen this posted prior. oh well.