Just need Stable Router

LuNoTiCK

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Need a stable router not for me but for someone I know, no tinkering, no DD-WRT, Tomato or any of that.

Just need a router that will work through a couple of walls (2nd floor vs 1st floor) and would stay stable, price under $200. Spending less is better as long as it's stable.

It's used to host the CCTV signal all day, and used for internet as well. I will flash DD-WRT or Tomato if it's the only choice given the budget.

Any combo that can be recommended (ie Access Point / Switch) will also be looked at.

Thanks

A completely wired router is fine as well.
 
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kbp

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I like my Asus RT-N66u. Thou it my be more router than what you may need. Refurb Cisco's can be had for less than $100.00.
 

JackMDS

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Best? There is No best cause if there was one every body will know about it and the rest (the Not best) would not exist.

This is a very good deal with high ratio performance/price, it will work well with wire and might provide Good Wireless that would work for your purpose providing you are using the Dual Band capacity. I.e,. the Wireless client has to be Dual Band too.

http://homestore.cisco.com/en-us/Ro...-router_stcVVproductId133604734VVviewprod.htm

P.S., before some "genius" jumps in with the Cisco security Fiasco. It is not applying to the above linked Router.

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That said (in general not directed to the OP) it is amazing how people keep coming here with needs for Wireless thing that are very demanding and seems to be very important to them and then beakering about saving $50 diffrenece in the hardware price.



 
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billyb0b

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i know you said no tomato, but a Linksys WRT54GL loaded with tomato is a VERY stable choice. I have had one for over 6 years now and it's needed a reboot only twice. It sits on an UPS too and it's never lost power.
 

wlee

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As much as others here sh*t talk the Apple stuff, the current AirPort Extreme is rock stable. I have 2 of them at home, and they never puke and reboot like most of the cheap junk boxes.

That said, the WRT54GL with Tomato is also rock stable.
I have one at work that has been up since the end of October 2011 without a reboot. ( 264 days ). And that was only for a major power outage.
Even though it's no type "N", if you put a good set of multi-path antenna(s) on it and you should be able to get pseudo MIMO as well.
 

JackMDS

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I do not think that people get it.

The Linksys WRT 54-G is a great old Wireless Router when loaded with DD-WRT.

However it is a G -Wireless, its ain't N and especially it is Not Dual Band.


When reading what people want to do with Wireless, it is many time obvious that a G only, No matter how Great it is will cut the Mustard.


 

serpretetsky

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I do not think that people get it.

The Linksys WRT 54-G is a great old Wireless Router when loaded with DD-WRT.

However it is a G -Wireless, its ain't N and especially it is Not Dual Band.


When reading what people want to do with Wireless, it is many time obvious that a G only, No matter how Great it is will cut the Mustard.



why? Some people have no problems with G routers. I know i sure dont care for N.
 

JackMDS

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why? Some people have no problems with G routers. I know i sure dont care for N.

Sure I use some too in some low level demanding connections.

The problem is that the WRT-54 DD-WRT answer is given many times automatically to OPs that state needs that supersede the capacity of 802.11 b/g

I actually put all my old 802.11 b/g (I accumulated few of them during the past years) as an additional AP on ch. 1 in different settings, and use them to connect those devices that do not need more than what the b/g provides. By doing so I keep my Duals 802.11 a/b/g/n connections available at full force for the real work.



 
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robmurphy

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The other thing with the WRT-54 range now is that they must all be quite old. Most of these home routers run quite warm so are they not going to start and have hardware errors/failures?

Even if I was only going to use G I would not buy an old WRT-54 as my main router. If I had one as my main router I would be looking for a replacement.

Rob.
 

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another vote for Cisco/Linksys E4200 v1. Not a single hiccup in 2 months of use...handling 6 wireless devices anywhere in my house 3 walls and a floor included for one PC) and out onto my patio.
 

LuNoTiCK

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All you guys running the E4200, what firmware are you running stock, tomato, dd-wrt?
 

JackMDS

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I do not need any of the addition features of DD-WRT and the Wireless works better with the stock, so I run this Router with the stock firmware.


 

robmurphy

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Stable for software does not mean much when the hardware is getting well past its intended end of life.

Consumer equipment is not really made to keep going for years. I know there are no moving parts but electronics especially chips ect do reach a point that they start to fail.

Buying old kit like that for reliability is self defeating. Its fine if you already have it and have spares. Buying one for your own "reliable" single router is certainly not something I would do.

Rob.
 

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As much as others here sh*t talk the Apple stuff, the current AirPort Extreme is rock stable. I have 2 of them at home, and they never puke and reboot like most of the cheap junk boxes.

I have one at my parents house and five of them in my home. They're extremely reliable. They can also easily be configured and adjusted by a "regular" person from an iPhone or iPad in their default state if there's ever trouble.
 

Emulex

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the problem is torrenting. if you can limit the number of nat connections and use a router with maximum ram , you will be good to go.

1 linux box torrenting can take out any router or use up all nat sockets.


separate ROUTER/SWITCH/AP roles into separate devices:

WRT54Gs router, $19 8-port gigabit switch, buffalo airstation high power as AP connected to switch.

and keep the P2P folks away, they will tear up everything.

An old boxen running pfsense with 1gb of ram can handle all the routing you'd ever need including 10 torrent clients for reference. It's the ram.

Iphone has 512meg ram, your router has 32-256(very few are 256)meg.
 

serpretetsky

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WRT54G Wan to Lan throughput = Dead slow. That's one reason.

As far as not caring for N, you can't know what it is then.
I have full bars, 2.4Mb/s internet, and i don't file-share on my wireless. How would i benefit from N and why do you say i dont know what wireless N is?
 

JackMDS

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All of these years I stayed away from the N because of the Draft-N pre-N fiasco.

However in the last year decent Routers with Dual Radio (a/b/g/n) matured and are sold for reasonable price.

The difference is simple with Good 802.11g I used to get 2 -2.2 MB/sec. Network Transfer, with Dual Router and dual Wireless card I get 20 - 30 MB/sec.

The thing that bother me the Most is thee constant use of the Word Stable like some sort of a magic variable

Most of the Wireless stability issues are environmentally induced.

Otherwise stability problem occurs from a lot of Torrenting (which should outlawed to begin with).


 
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