Just played with a WP7 phone, what a treat!

[OneOfTheseDays]

Coming from a Droid Incredible, I must say the WP7 experience beats the pants off of Android quite thoroughly.

For someone like me that values performance, integration, and ease of use WP7 is simply a better experience all around. The GUI is buttery smooth, it's literally like night and day between this and Android.

Android's lack of GPU acceleration is KILLING the overall user experience. My phone exhibits random slowdowns and stutters all the time that often makes things like typing txt messages a pain.

I would say once WP7 is paired with some truly great HW Android is DOA. It doesn't even compare right now IMHO.

 

[Zen0]

How do you like the iPhones? In comparison to W7 phone?

I moved from Android to iPhone and the experience has been insane. Droid was great for doing things like tethering for free easily but it was just horrendous in even basic usage like using it as an MP3 player.

 

[TheStu]

How do you like the iPhones? In comparison to W7 phone?

I moved from Android to iPhone and the experience has been insane. Droid was great for doing things like tethering for free easily but it was just horrendous in even basic usage like using it as an MP3 player.

I had an iPhone 1, now I have WP7. They are both very well done UIs, but with different ideals. I will say this much, after having used WinMoPho for the past couple of months, I have a bit of trouble using the iPhone now, the WinMoPho interface is more modern feeling.

But the selection of apps on iOS is SIGNIFICANTLY better. It isn't even really fair.

 

[Zen0]

I had an iPhone 1, now I have WP7. They are both very well done UIs, but with different ideals. I will say this much, after having used WinMoPho for the past couple of months, I have a bit of trouble using the iPhone now, the WinMoPho interface is more modern feeling.

But the selection of apps on iOS is SIGNIFICANTLY better. It isn't even really fair.

Hopefully there is an audio equalizer in the WP7 phone?

I would consider a WP7 phone for sure if they come out with an all metal or something really high quality one. I hate plastic.

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

when will they give their OS computer esque commands? basic stuff like copy and paste, true multitasking, and file system tree view should be a default nowadays. Plus a more powerful implementation of office and im sold. I guess N900 spoiled me with this stuff but a mobile OS closer at reflecting a full sized OS ability is really the ideal experience and the hardware for something like this on a pocket device is available. I just hope MS stops holding back.

 

[Deeko]

I would say once WP7 is paired with some truly great HW Android is DOA. It doesn't even compare right now IMHO.

Nah....WP7 has a chance to take a good portion of the market, but its hardly going to kill Android. They are different platforms that appeal to different people and can certainly coexist.

 

[iahk]

I would say once WP7 is paired with some truly great HW Android is DOA. It doesn't even compare right now IMHO.

That will only happen once MS allows it to happen. MS has the say so in what hardware is in the phones that use their OS.

That's why you keep seeing android phones in cutting edge hardware while WP7 devices look pretty much the same.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Nokia + WP7 = coolness

I can't wait to see what happens with that, i'd probably dump my G2 for that if they managed to fix all the problems with WP7 now.

 

[Bateluer]

WP7 isn't going to make a dent in the mobile space. 15-25% market share, tops. And MS will pump billions into it too. Perhaps, when they release WP8. But its not like Google and Apple are standing still either.

 

[Deeko]

WP7 isn't going to make a dent in the mobile space. 15-25% market share, tops. And MS will pump billions into it too. Perhaps, when they release WP8. But its not like Google and Apple are standing still either.

In a market with iOS, Android, Blackberry and WinMo7 as the primary players....15-25% isn't exactly a bad number.

 

[MrX8503]

If you want speed, WP7 is one of the phones to get. Android isn't exactly known for speed, but you get alot of customizing in return.

 

[Fallingwater]

The way I understand it, WP7 is only suitable for high-power devices, while Android can run acceptably on comparatively weedy devices (see: Huawei Ideos). Which isn't at all surprising, considering the respective sources (Windows and Linux).

That's bound to have effects on the market. Not everyone's ok with spending $400 for a smartphone.

 

[shortylickens]

Coming from a Droid Incredible, I must say the WP7 experience beats the pants off of Android quite thoroughly.

For someone like me that values performance, integration, and ease of use WP7 is simply a better experience all around. The GUI is buttery smooth, it's literally like night and day between this and Android.

Android's lack of GPU acceleration is KILLING the overall user experience. My phone exhibits random slowdowns and stutters all the time that often makes things like typing txt messages a pain.

I would say once WP7 is paired with some truly great HW Android is DOA. It doesn't even compare right now IMHO.

The ignorance is strong here. Individual phone have or lack GPU acceleration.
And I didnt notice a strong difference from Android anyway, maybe your Incredible just sucks ass.

I will agree that WP7 is cool, but I recommend against spending thousands of dollars on cute. You should hold off a year til the platform gets major improvements. Just like Android.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

The way I understand it, WP7 is only suitable for high-power devices, while Android can run acceptably on comparatively weedy devices (see: Huawei Ideos). Which isn't at all surprising, considering the respective sources (Windows and Linux).

That's bound to have effects on the market. Not everyone's ok with spending $400 for a smartphone.

To an extent yes, Android can run on almost anything while Microsoft only allows Windows Phone 7 to run on Qualcomm Snapdragon 8250 based devices.

Because of that restriction Android not only runs on lower end phones but can also run on top of the line phones with Hummingbird, Tegra 2, etc while WP7 is stuck on a previous gen SoC.

 

[MrX8503]

The way I understand it, WP7 is only suitable for high-power devices, while Android can run acceptably on comparatively weedy devices (see: Huawei Ideos). Which isn't at all surprising, considering the respective sources (Windows and Linux).

That's bound to have effects on the market. Not everyone's ok with spending $400 for a smartphone.

I'm not sure there's any truth to that. MS is simply requiring hardware standards so that fragmentation is minimal. For the most part the speed of WP7 seems to be working for them.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

WP7 isn't going to make a dent in the mobile space. 15-25% market share, tops. And MS will pump billions into it too. Perhaps, when they release WP8. But its not like Google and Apple are standing still either.

25% is a pretty big dent IMO.

how is WP7 in messaging and profiles?
that's the last stronghold in RIM's favor.

 

[cronos]

25% is a pretty big dent IMO.

how is WP7 in messaging and profiles?
that's the last stronghold in RIM's favor.

I really think Microsoft should just put aside for a while the goal of trying to catch up to iOS/Android (the 'popular' market, so to speak) and focuses on establishing WP7 as the de-facto environment for professional use. A position that not too long ago (still is, somewhat?) was held firmly by RIM.

With Exchange in their back pocket and the addition of the great Nokia hardware, they will establish a significant presence very quick. Things can only get easier from there.

 

[her209]

Does it use Bing, Hotmail / Windows Live, and Bing Maps as the default search engine, default mail service provider, and default maps app respectively?

 

[dougp]

I had an iPhone 1, now I have WP7. They are both very well done UIs, but with different ideals. I will say this much, after having used WinMoPho for the past couple of months, I have a bit of trouble using the iPhone now, the WinMoPho interface is more modern feeling.

But the selection of apps on iOS is SIGNIFICANTLY better. It isn't even really fair.

No shit it is significantly better - it has what, a 3 year head start? The catch is, WP7 apps are getting there very quickly. Since we're early adopters, we are stuck with the growing pains. I'm not sure how many remember the early days of the iPhone 3G, but it sucked when it came to apps. Took a good year to get quality apps.

Hopefully there is an audio equalizer in the WP7 phone?

I would consider a WP7 phone for sure if they come out with an all metal or something really high quality one. I hate plastic.

To answer both your statements, HTC has an audio equalizer for the Surround. I'm not sure about the HD7, you'd have to investigate this on your own. As for all metal, the closest you will get is either the LG Quantum or I believe the HD7 is mostly metal.

when will they give their OS computer esque commands? basic stuff like copy and paste, true multitasking, and file system tree view should be a default nowadays. Plus a more powerful implementation of office and im sold. I guess N900 spoiled me with this stuff but a mobile OS closer at reflecting a full sized OS ability is really the ideal experience and the hardware for something like this on a pocket device is available. I just hope MS stops holding back.

*yawn* Old argument. Copy and past is coming March 7th or 8th. As for true multitasking, no thanks. I didn't have it on iOS (and I think Apple's implementation should be considered the best) and when I went to Android, you notice significant battery life decreases. I'll take the iOS "app hibernation" over anything on the market. Yes, there will be apps that need backgrounding like a messaging client or Slacker - but letting my game run while everything is off? No thanks.

File tree view? Why? iOS doesn't implement it. Hell, by default, most Android phones don't have it. Outside of power users, it has no real use. Most people just rely on a media navigation app for their pictures, music and videos.

And Office implementation? Shit, WP7 is the best out of anything on the market, period.

25% is a pretty big dent IMO.

how is WP7 in messaging and profiles?
that's the last stronghold in RIM's favor.

I like the default messaging client, but there's no profiling what-so-ever. The only phones on the market to compete with that is anything Android based.

My phone history is a Treo 755w -> Centro -> iPhone 3G -> iPhone 3GS -> HTC Aria -> Samsung Captivate -> Samsung Focus -> LG Quantum.

Yes, I swapped my phones a lot. I'm also what I'd consider a power user, and while jailbroken iPhones are great, they pale in comparison to anything Android based. But I found myself working on my phone far too much when I had my Captivate, and longed for something "that just worked." Considering all my PCs have Windows 7, and I have a 360 - I had looked forward to WP7. Yes, there's some things to work around and get used to, but it's like that for all devices. I think the most solid device available is the iPhone - it has the app market, history and name to bring people to the device. The interface is controlled by Apple and they have pretty strict requirements for their app store. Microsoft has taken this approach when it comes to the OS level, but has set minimum requirements for hardware in order to STOP people from having to use a device like a Huiwai or whatever the budget Android device is. Shit, you could get all AT&T WP7 devices for $.01 less than a month after release.

 

[dougp]

Does it use Bing, Hotmail / Windows Live, and Bing Maps as the default search engine, default mail service provider, and default maps app respectively?

You have to use Bing to search unless you mod your registry. You don't have to use WL, but it will limit your use due to the market, but it doesn't even need to be used as your default mail provider.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

i really liked wp7 when i tried it at the att store, its very slick and fast. also most wp7 phones are cheaper than high end android phones so android doesnt really have a price advantage. if they had w7 on verizon i probably would have gotten one already. ms is much more experienced and skillful than google and in the long run windows is going to be a much better product than android

 

[aceO07]

One advantage that WP7 has is that app developers have done it on iPhone and Android already. They know what works and what doesn't. Now they just need to redo and probably improve it for WP7.

 

[Fingolfin269]

WP7 isn't going to make a dent in the mobile space. 15-25% market share, tops. And MS will pump billions into it too. Perhaps, when they release WP8. But its not like Google and Apple are standing still either.

Am I missing some sarcasm here? Or do you really think up to a quarter of the market isn't a dent?

 

[zerocool84]

Am I missing some sarcasm here? Or do you really think up to a quarter of the market isn't a dent?

Well that'd take like 3-4 years for that to happen probably even longer seeing as there's more and more competition now.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Well that'd take like 3-4 years for that to happen probably even longer seeing as there's more and more competition now.

Not really the point here as I was referring to what is considered to be a 'dent' not how long it (might) take to get there. Granted I doubt MS will get there.