No one here talks about any OS like you do. I've never heard someone get so hostile over a phone platform like you do. I guess maybe Android really did hurt you.
And you talk about iOS with such hostility and bias. It's pretty obvious from a UI standpoint Android has a long way to go. Why Google can't get it's act together is beyond me.
At least I'm speaking of both OSes because I use both hand in hand. There's a reason why I still have an Android phone and why I may look at an Android phone soon. But I will be seriously evaluating the iPhone 5.
No one here talks about any OS like you do. I've never heard someone get so hostile over a phone platform like you do. I guess maybe Android really did hurt you.
I don't know why people are trying to compare WP7 to Android. WP7 is just like the old iPhones, can't do more than one thing at a time. Of course that'd make it smooth.
Uh because there's a decent amount of iOS hate here? And there's also a good amount of Android fanboys like you who trumpet around OPEN OPEN OPEN OPEN OPEN OPEN everyday. The next great Android development gets posted here and you say something like "Hah, and this is why open is good." I mean seriously, you and a few other Android fanboys talk about iOS like Steve buttraped you last night or something. Or the Android doll did you favors last night.
Like seriously:
Oh take every opportunity to make a stab at iOS don't you? Look, I don't mind that you do it. I recognize you love Android and will do anything to poke fun at iOS, but since you choose to bring out how I complain about Android, you should maybe look at your own posts. You do the same from a different perspective. Big deal.
This thread is talking about how smooth the UI is of WP7. I agree it's smooth as hell. But of course the Android fanboys come in here and bring up issues like
- previous generation SoC
- Anandtech synthetic benchmarks
Great. Those are valid points, but I'm addressing UI smoothness from a more subjective view. Just based on usage, it's clear that many people see here that WP7 and iOS offer great fluid usage. I think it goes without saying that Android needs some catching up to do.
Why am I mad? I'm mad because we're years down the road and my basic features still feel slow as shit on Android.
Those are synthetic benchmarks. No one gives a shit about those half the time. It's usability. Take my Droid 1, crank it up to 1.1ghz, and the OMAP processor crushes the Snapdragon in IPC. Then what? This is what happened last Thursday. I fired up my browser to login to a game. Panning/scrolling around in the Android browser is choppy. I tried to copy and paste a link. I ended up copying not just the 1 phrase I needed, but a whole sentence. Retry with Android's shitty copy and paste. Browser crashes and exits.
I say fuck that, fire up my tether app and pull out my iPod Touch 4G. Smooth browsing, easy copy and paste. Bam. All while my music is playing nonstop on my iPod Touch.
What matters is usability. Look at Google Maps. Great 5.0 features. But just basic panning around is not 60fps smooth like an iPhone. My Google Maps hangs up sometimes on me. You can blame it on my 256MB ram or whatever, but my 1.1ghz clock speeds aren't slow at all. Oh wait but my iPod Touch's 256MB ram seems fine even though its a neutered iPhone 4 with only half the RAM... I guess not all OSes are built as efficiently.
The Droid 1 has 256mb of ram and a stock cortex A8, it's no where close to as fast as Hummingbird based phones.
Maybe you just need to buy a modern phone, My SGS has extremely smooth scrolling in the browser.
Funny they picked a phone with Motoblur instead of one that has the stock Gallery app (whcih if I remember correctly may actually have gpu acceleration). I just tested that on my Galaxy S running 2.2 and it also substantially outperformed the Atrix so the only thing that test proved is Motoblur sucks.
Windows Phone 7 may be "smooth" but in any objective performance test it sucks. The Nexus 1 has the same SoC as all of the WP7 devices but completely demolishes them.
The Droid 1 has 256mb of ram and a stock cortex A8, it's no where close to as fast as Hummingbird based phones.
Maybe you just need to buy a modern phone, My SGS has extremely smooth scrolling in the browser.
does wp7 have a tethering app that isnt provider supplied? this seems to be the main wp7 thread going, so i thought id ask in here. is the vzw trophy phone just a bad rumor or is there one coming to vzw soon?
edit: the trophy is overseas only, just noticed that...
This just isn't true, I have a MT4G with CM7 on it and the browser is still choppy on certain web pages. The xda-devs forum page gets REALLY choppy on every android phone I've had. I've had my phone OCed to 1.4GHz and it is STILL choppy on certain web pages. It's the most annoying thing about android next to the updates, I don't know why some people like to stick their heads int he sand and pretend that the platform doesn't have any shortcomings at all.
The Droid 1 has 256mb of ram and a stock cortex A8, it's no where close to as fast as Hummingbird based phones.
Maybe you just need to buy a modern phone, My SGS has extremely smooth scrolling in the browser.
When people openly say they are ignoring my posts, I would think there is more than just a little ignorance going on. I've also linked and defended my arguments thoroughly enough about the lackluster WP7 climate. And referring to early adoption. When you have people like dougp defending the platform by saying all these requisite features are "yawn" and that iOS didn't have them when it started which makes it okay for WP7, an OS coming a good 4-5 years later, to not have them at all, well you see why I think some of you people are really living in your own fantasy land. The lack of negatives and failures into features propaganda really is something. And really, no one is even remotely hinting that I am an MS hater, right after my first post? Even if not, its just proper tact, and that "lengths to defend themselves" drivel is just a textbook poor excuse to not address the other party's valid concerns. Thw WP7 platform is not perfect, but some people just don't want to hear the flaws, because it conflicts with their own self-worth.
And guess what? I'm gonna "go to lengths to defend themselves" again by saying that I've owned a Samsung Wave Bada phone, but most of my time in the Bada forums involved pointing out the shortcomings of the platform, to the Bada sheeple's dismay, and telling all the frequent anti-Apple, anti-HTC, anti-Motorola people to go jump off a cliff. I don't know if it is some defense mechanism, for people to join a certain group and blindly rage about the infallibility of the group they belong to, but it is stupid. And I thought WP7 would have more functionally balanced users than screaming Android fans.
The Droid 1 has 256mb of ram and a stock cortex A8, it's no where close to as fast as Hummingbird based phones.
Maybe you just need to buy a modern phone, My SGS has extremely smooth scrolling in the browser.
Hold on, you can't play Angry Birds smoothly? My G2 with a 800MHz Snapdragon has no problem with that little.
The majority of webpages are smooth too. It's only the odd one or two that's horrible (like the XDA forums).
Its crazy that some Android fan thats in total denial of the lagginess of Android.
Its nice to see when people can be total objective when differentiate different OSes.
I too have both a Vibrant and IP4 that I use on a regular basis and its so obvious the Android OS is not as smooth as iOS.
Just the Vibrant in stock form is unusable.
After I installed a custom ROM, its definately a pretty good phone but there is still lagginess compared to iOS.
Just because its not as smooth as iOS, its still a pretty damm good phone.
You have to be able to distinguish its shortcoming.
Until Android incorporate graphic acceleration, increasing CPU speed isn't going to solve the problem.
I haven't used WP7 but I'm eager to as soon as I see some great looking hardware behind it.
I've been saying this since the ZuneHD, which also benchmarked poorly - the WP7 browser performs much better than it benchmarks. I don't know why it benchmarks so slow, because it really isn't like that in use. My girlfriend has a G2, I've done side-by-side tests, and they split pretty evenly between which ones WP7 loads faster and which ones Android loads faster.
Its crazy that some Android fan thats in total denial of the lagginess of Android.