Just saw a 24" Up Close... UPDATE, Now with poll!

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I jumped on the 24" bandwagon a while back, not thinking about the consequences of upgrading my video card. Didn't think I needed to, but my 6800gt was hurting at 1920x1200.

Got a killer deal on a 7800gtx a while back, so I'm happy. Oh yeah, I only play Warcraft III: TFT, so it's no biggie.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: Vallybally
How many of ya'll love the idea and cost of 24" LCDs (particularly the Dell) but are just afraid to go for it because to handle new games well it will almost certainly require you to keep buying high-end $400+ video cards at least yearly?

I'm one of those people

I would already have a 1920x1200 LCD if it weren't for the GPU power required to run every game at high settings @ that resolution.

Instead, i bought myself a second 20" LCD, since i have major issues with the craptastic implementation of CF/SLI & the resulting costs.

 

[iamaelephant]

The GPU requirements are over stated. I haven't tried many games yet, but my 7600GT runs both Half Life 2 and Day of Defeat Source on max details at 1902x1200 without a hitch. Anyone who is considering getting a 24" monitor but is concerned about owning a mid range card like mine, worry no more. I'm going to have a go at FEAR soon and I'll let you all know how it goes.

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: Frackal

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I jumped on the 24" bandwagon a while back, not thinking about the consequences of upgrading my video card. Didn't think I needed to, but my 6800gt was hurting at 1920x1200.

Got a killer deal on a 7800gtx a while back, so I'm happy. Oh yeah, I only play Warcraft III: TFT, so it's no biggie.

Come to think of it, that deal wasn't so great.

 

[Sunrise089]

Originally posted by: 450R

Originally posted by: Vallybally
How many of ya'll love the idea and cost of 24" LCDs (particularly the Dell) but are just afraid to go for it because to handle new games well it will almost certainly require you to keep buying high-end $400+ video cards at least yearly?

Me.

It's one of LCD's major downfalls in my opinion. My eyesight isn't the best and it's nice being able to change resolutions on a CRT depending on what I'm doing (text, image editing, gaming, etc) without issue. Then comes the pricing as you mentioned ... quite a double-whammy for me.

100% agree with all of this, and why I am (sadly still) in the market for a good used 21"+ CRT.

 

[Barfo]

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
The GPU requirements are over stated. I haven't tried many games yet, but my 7600GT runs both Half Life 2 and Day of Defeat Source on max details at 1902x1200 without a hitch. Anyone who is considering getting a 24" monitor but is concerned about owning a mid range card like mine, worry no more. I'm going to have a go at FEAR soon and I'll let you all know how it goes.

I don't know much about the 7600 but it seems to me that you're either OCing or using some magical optimizations

 

[dgevert]

24" 2407 here. 1920x1200 does need some serious graphical horsepower. Most stuff was playable on my X1900XT @ 1920x1200 with settings mostly maxed. I had to take FEAR down to a lower res though. Now I have a 7950GX2 and I haven't yet found a game that wasn't playable @ 1920x1200.

 

[Vallybally]

We are happy you are happy. But our point was that the vast majority of the consumer market I bet is holding off from 24" LCDs because they are afraid they'll need to upgrade to a $500 vid card every 6 months to keep up. Sorry but I'd rather pay car insurance or something...if only LCDs scaled perfectly like CRTs...

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: barfo

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
The GPU requirements are over stated. I haven't tried many games yet, but my 7600GT runs both Half Life 2 and Day of Defeat Source on max details at 1902x1200 without a hitch. Anyone who is considering getting a 24" monitor but is concerned about owning a mid range card like mine, worry no more. I'm going to have a go at FEAR soon and I'll let you all know how it goes.

I don't know much about the 7600 but it seems to me that you're either OCing or using some magical optimizations

exactly, I have a 7900GT and run at 1920x1080P and it chokes in Oblivion and FEAR. However HL2 and CSS run fine as they came out awhile ago and have great coding.

 

[Lord Banshee]

OK the only game i play with AOE3 for the time being and the Dell 24" and my 7800GT is great if i don't turn on AA but max everything else on @ 1920x1200.

On another note, if you want to run your games at 1600x1200 and don't mind the black bars i just measure the screen size and it would be like a 21" LCD, 1680x1050 would be a 21" also, 1280x1024 would be a 17". This is a 1:1 ratio with the screen so there is no scaling involved. So if you really want a 24" monitor and you current system runs 1600x1200 fine in games then you can always run the screen back to 1600x1200. But this will only be fine if you want to upgrade not for gaming, unless a 21" viewable is still better than what you got now

 

[potato28]

I still like my 26" Aquos... 1336x786 doesnt kill my 6600gt

 

[bobsmith1492]

Meh, 800x600 doesn't look so bad on my (1920x1200) laptop in Oblivion...

Granted, I can still sometimes barely get playable frames outside with all the grass and trees off.
(with my 9700 mobility)

 

[supastar1568]

Originally posted by: Lord Banshee
OK the only game i play with AOE3 for the time being and the Dell 24" and my 7800GT is great if i don't turn on AA but max everything else on @ 1920x1200.

On another note, if you want to run your games at 1600x1200 and don't mind the black bars i just measure the screen size and it would be like a 21" LCD, 1680x1050 would be a 21" also, 1280x1024 would be a 17". This is a 1:1 ratio with the screen so there is no scaling involved. So if you really want a 24" monitor and you current system runs 1600x1200 fine in games then you can always run the screen back to 1600x1200. But this will only be fine if you want to upgrade not for gaming, unless a 21" viewable is still better than what you got now

great game. Otto's own

 

[Lord Banshee]

Originally posted by: supastar1568

Originally posted by: Lord Banshee
OK the only game i play with AOE3 for the time being and the Dell 24" and my 7800GT is great if i don't turn on AA but max everything else on @ 1920x1200.

On another note, if you want to run your games at 1600x1200 and don't mind the black bars i just measure the screen size and it would be like a 21" LCD, 1680x1050 would be a 21" also, 1280x1024 would be a 17". This is a 1:1 ratio with the screen so there is no scaling involved. So if you really want a 24" monitor and you current system runs 1600x1200 fine in games then you can always run the screen back to 1600x1200. But this will only be fine if you want to upgrade not for gaming, unless a 21" viewable is still better than what you got now

great game. Otto's own

lol, Otto is my current fav civ too lol

 

[Noubourne]

7900GT handles Oblivion on my 1920x1200 HP L2335 23" Widescreen without a hitch. I don't have everything maxxed, but I have a LOT of stuff turned on. The card cost less than $300. If you can afford the 23-24" monitor, you can probably afford a 7900GT.

 

[Sunrise089]

Originally posted by: Noubourne
7900GT handles Oblivion on my 1920x1200 HP L2335 23" Widescreen without a hitch. I don't have everything maxxed, but I have a LOT of stuff turned on. The card cost less than $300. If you can afford the 23-24" monitor, you can probably afford a 7900GT.

And even though I have one, right now, if you can afford a 7900GT, you can afford a discounted X1900XT and be a lot happier.

 

[supastar1568]

Originally posted by: potato28
I still like my 26" Aquos... 1336x786 doesnt kill my 6600gt

but do the large pixels kill your eyes?

 

[amheck]

Hey guys, serious question. I don't understand something and maybe I'm missing it.

What's the big deal playing games at the full native rez of the monitor? I can understand why you'd want to run windows 2D at the full resolution, and most video card can run that just fine. But I ran games on my 2001FP below the 1600x1200 and they always looked really good to me, say at 12x10 or whatever.

So if you want the nice 24" real estate for general use, why don't you just scale down the games to a lower widescreen rez if the video card can't handlie it?

Aaron

 

[Dkcode]

Originally posted by: Vallybally
From what I've read so far, 1920x1200 would require at the minimum an X1900XT for Oblivion.

I want to expand this thread into a question: How many of ya'll love the idea and cost of 24" LCDs (particularly the Dell) but are just afraid to go for it because to handle new games well it will almost certainly require you to keep buying high-end $400+ video cards at least yearly?

Me too.

I belive it would require a SLI or Crossfire solution to get the best from the monitor. If i had the money then i would seriously consider going this route.

 

[iamaelephant]

Originally posted by: barfo

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
The GPU requirements are over stated. I haven't tried many games yet, but my 7600GT runs both Half Life 2 and Day of Defeat Source on max details at 1902x1200 without a hitch. Anyone who is considering getting a 24" monitor but is concerned about owning a mid range card like mine, worry no more. I'm going to have a go at FEAR soon and I'll let you all know how it goes.

I don't know much about the 7600 but it seems to me that you're either OCing or using some magical optimizations

Nope, just thec stock MSI overclock. I don't have AA on as I can hardly notice the difference considering the huge performance hit, but everything else is maxed at 1920x1600. I still haven't got around to trying FEAR at that resoution but I xpect I'll need to turn shadows down a bit, but the 7600GT is a surprisingly powerful card for the money. I wish people would stop trying to talk others out of buying 24" monitors using this argument as it is false. I don't own Oblivion so I can't try that out, although I would certainly need to turn some stuff down.

 

[iamaelephant]

Originally posted by: amheck
Hey guys, serious question. I don't understand something and maybe I'm missing it.

What's the big deal playing games at the full native rez of the monitor? I can understand why you'd want to run windows 2D at the full resolution, and most video card can run that just fine. But I ran games on my 2001FP below the 1600x1200 and they always looked really good to me, say at 12x10 or whatever.

So if you want the nice 24" real estate for general use, why don't you just scale down the games to a lower widescreen rez if the video card can't handlie it?

Aaron

Due to an LCD monitors design dropping the res will result in reduced image quality, although they are gettings better at interpolating the pixels in the software now. Running windows at a reduced res still looks a bit funky but in games it is hardly noticeable on a modern LCD.

 

[dustmann]

Originally posted by: videogames101
Just curious, Oblivion at 1920x1200 with my sig, fps?

No way man. It'll play, but it won't be pretty. Ok yes it will, but the forest will probably suck your system's soul.

Originally posted by: Vallybally
How many of ya'll love the idea and cost of 24" LCDs (particularly the Dell) but are just afraid to go for it because to handle new games well it will almost certainly require you to keep buying high-end $400+ video cards at least yearly?

Me! It's hard enough at 1680x1050 with my 20" ws lcd. My poor 6600gt will be struggling

 

[Sunrise089]

iamaelephant - I wonder what your FPS will be running Oblivian or FEAR with that card at that res. Every now and then someone comes along and claims everyone else is vastly overstating how much graphics horsepower game require, and almost invariably when they actually measure their FPS they find it's quite low. Nothing wrong with you not being as sensitive to low FPS numbers as the rest of us (in fact, it's probably a good thing), but it doesn't mean we're overstating the requirements for the majority to have en enjoyable experience.

amheck - Same issue. For you it may not bother you to run a non-native res, but to a lot of us it really lowers visual quality, to far below CRT levels. That's why you see running a non-native res hardly ever recommended as a way to improve speeds.

 

[Sonikku]

Sony FW900 FTW.

1920x1200 your thing? Go for it.

Video card not up to it? Try 1280x800 instead. Or anything in between if that's your fancy. No scaling.

 

[Sunrise089]

Originally posted by: Sonikku
Sony FW900 FTW.

1920x1200 your thing? Go for it.

Video card not up to it? Try 1280x800 instead. Or anything in between if that's your fancy. No scaling.

TELL ME ABOUT IT. Now also, please tell me where I can find a good condition one in stock from a place that will ship and doesn't want $$$$ for it.